On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 02:32:27AM +, John Levon wrote:
Where did this come from, and why ?
Maybe my doing. I had a similar item for ages in my personal copy of LyX.
But maybe not.
Why?
Ever tried finding LaTeX errors using Error boxes that end up miles away
from the places where they are
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Andre On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 02:32:27AM +, John Levon wrote:
Where did this come from, and why ?
Andre Maybe my doing.
Indeed.
Andre Ever tried finding LaTeX errors using Error boxes that end up
Andre miles away from the places where
output format LyX produces. There hould be a way
to look at it.
Do we really want to keep it?
I certainly would like to have it.
This could also be added as a tip in the FAQ.
Maybe the item could be moved down in the menu close to the latex log
file and we could call it 'View LaTeX Source
the ability to do so, it only takes to add a viewer in the
format preferences. I have it activated for ASCII (text) output, linuxdoc and
docbook
This could also be added as a tip in the FAQ.
Maybe the item could be moved down in the menu close to the latex log
file and we could call it 'View
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 09:30:49AM +, José Matos wrote:
Why? .tex is the primary output format LyX produces. There hould be a way
to look at it.
Do we really want to keep it?
I certainly would like to have it.
We already have the ability to do so, it only takes to add a
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Andre Maybe the item could be moved down in the menu close to the
Andre latex log file and we could call it 'View LaTeX Source', but it
Andre should stay there IMNSHO.
You cannot move it. The list of viewers is built automatically.
JMarc
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 10:48:06AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Andre Maybe the item could be moved down in the menu close to the
Andre latex log file and we could call it 'View LaTeX Source', but it
Andre should stay there IMNSHO.
You cannot move it. The list of viewers is built
to the latex log
file and we could call it 'View LaTeX Source', but it should stay there
IMNSHO.
| The question is Does it needs to be on by default?.
| No one questions its utility.
I think it should not be there by default. At least I am trying to
lessen our explicit and implict dependance
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:15:08PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
I think it should not be there by default. At least I am trying to
lessen our explicit and implict dependance on LaTeX.
The weight of this LaTeX viewer is currently _exactly_ the same as this
of a Dvi viewer or a PDF viewer
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Andre On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 10:48:06AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre wrote: Maybe the item could be moved down in the menu close to
Andre the latex log file and we could call it 'View LaTeX Source',
Andre but it should stay there IMNSHO
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 11:35:01AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Andre I think I got now a fairly good impression of how much time can
Andre be wasted without achieving anything. I don't need more
Andre education on that topic.
Beware, Andre is grumpy today...
No, I have been grumpy
Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:15:08PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
I think it should not be there by default. At least I am trying to
lessen our explicit and implict dependance on LaTeX.
| The weight of this LaTeX viewer is currently _exactly_ the
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:50:43PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
| Or do you explicitly discriminate .tex in order to prove some
| non-dependance?
| [Which, btw, is not there and won't be there within a reasonable amount of
| time]
And therefor we should making the LyX is an LaTeX
José Matos wrote:
I certainly would like to have it.
We already have the ability to do so, it only takes to add a viewer in
the format preferences. I have it activated for ASCII (text) output,
linuxdoc and docbook
Another possibility is to use the custom export dialog:
emacs $$FName
A
Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:50:43PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
| Or do you explicitly discriminate .tex in order to prove some
| non-dependance?
| [Which, btw, is not there and won't be there within a reasonable amount of
| time]
And
it?
I certainly would like to have it.
You are a developer.
This could also be added as a tip in the FAQ.
Maybe the item could be moved down in the menu close to the latex log
file and we could call it 'View LaTeX Source', but it should stay there
IMNSHO.
No it should go definitely
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:04:41PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote:
Having easy access to the .tex is currently an important means to debug the
output LyX creates.
The people able and needing to debug .tex are more than capable of
adding a menu entry. The people who wouldn't even think of changing
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 02:08:18PM +, John Levon wrote:
I certainly would like to have it.
You are a developer.
Currently I am a user.
Maybe the item could be moved down in the menu close to the latex log
file and we could call it 'View LaTeX Source', but it should stay
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 02:11:22PM +, John Levon wrote:
I can't say I'm happy about you sneaking the UI in under our noses.
Please?
Care to post your definition of sneaking in thing under your noses?
Andre'
--
Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security,
will not have,
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 03:11:03PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote:
You are a developer.
Currently I am a user.
OK sure. A particularly able and clued-in power user ...
Btw: this was not my idea in the beginning
but I found it so useful that I adapted it.
Oh, sure. Don't get me wrong, I'm
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 02:15:46PM +, John Levon wrote:
Oh, sure. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it is useful for a number of
people. The question is whether it's really needed by the default
user. But it seems you don't like arguing about UI, so in the future
I'll just fix stuff back
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 03:13:15PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote:
I can't say I'm happy about you sneaking the UI in under our noses.
Please?
Care to post your definition of sneaking in thing under your noses?
Please point me to where in the mailing list you mentioned you were
going to do
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 02:30:17PM +, John Levon wrote:
Please point me to where in the mailing list you mentioned you were
going to do this.
Please tell me how to obtain the archives of lyx-devel and lyx-cvs from
June-August 2002.
Andre'
--
Those who desire to give up Freedom in order
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 03:36:03PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote:
Please tell me how to obtain the archives of lyx-devel and lyx-cvs from
June-August 2002.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-develr=1w=2
regards
john
--
Yeah, I woke up in the day accidentally once, the moon was on fire for
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 02:32:27AM +, John Levon wrote:
> Where did this come from, and why ?
Maybe my doing. I had a similar item for ages in my "personal" copy of LyX.
But maybe not.
Why?
Ever tried finding LaTeX errors using Error boxes that end up miles away
from the places where they
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 02:32:27AM +, John Levon wrote:
>> Where did this come from, and why ?
Andre> Maybe my doing.
Indeed.
Andre> Ever tried finding LaTeX errors using Error boxes that end up
Andre> miles away from the
ple...
Why? .tex is the primary output format LyX produces. There hould be a way
to look at it.
> Do we really want to keep it?
I certainly would like to have it.
> This could also be added as a tip in the FAQ.
Maybe the item could be moved down in the menu close to the latex log
file and we could ca
menu close to the latex log
> file and we could call it 'View LaTeX Source', but it should stay there
> IMNSHO.
The question is "Does it needs to be on by default?".
No one questions its utility.
> Andre'
--
José Abílio
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 09:30:49AM +, José Matos wrote:
> > Why? .tex is the primary output format LyX produces. There hould be a way
> > to look at it.
> >
> > > Do we really want to keep it?
> >
> > I certainly would like to have it.
>
> We already have the ability to do so, it only
>>>>> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> Maybe the item could be moved down in the menu close to the
Andre> latex log file and we could call it 'View LaTeX Source', but it
Andre> should stay there IMNSHO.
You cannot move it. Th
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 10:48:06AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Andre> Maybe the item could be moved down in the menu close to the
> Andre> latex log file and we could call it 'View LaTeX Source', but it
> Andre> should stay there IMNSHO.
>
> You cannot move
t; This could also be added as a tip in the FAQ.
>>
>> Maybe the item could be moved down in the menu close to the latex log
>> file and we could call it 'View LaTeX Source', but it should stay there
>> IMNSHO.
>
| The question is "Does it needs to be on by default?&quo
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:15:08PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> I think it should not be there by default. At least I am trying to
> lessen our explicit and implict dependance on LaTeX.
The weight of this "LaTeX viewer" is currently _exactly_ the same as this
of a "Dvi viewer" or a "PDF
>>>>> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 10:48:06AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre> wrote: Maybe the item could be moved down in the menu close to
Andre> the latex log file and we could call it 'View
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 11:35:01AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Andre> I think I got now a fairly good impression of how much time can
> Andre> be wasted without achieving anything. I don't need more
> Andre> education on that topic.
>
> Beware, Andre is grumpy today...
No, I have been
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:15:08PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
>> I think it should not be there by default. At least I am trying to
>> lessen our explicit and implict dependance on LaTeX.
>
| The weight of this "LaTeX viewer" is currently
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:50:43PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> | Or do you explicitly discriminate .tex in order to prove some
> | "non-dependance"?
> >
> | [Which, btw, is not there and won't be there within a reasonable amount of
> | time]
>
> And therefor we should making the "LyX is
José Matos wrote:
> > I certainly would like to have it.
>
> We already have the ability to do so, it only takes to add a viewer in
> the format preferences. I have it activated for ASCII (text) output,
> linuxdoc and docbook
Another possibility is to use the custom export dialog:
"emacs
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:50:43PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
>> | Or do you explicitly discriminate .tex in order to prove some
>> | "non-dependance"?
>> >
>> | [Which, btw, is not there and won't be there within a reasonable amount of
>> |
really want to keep it?
>
> I certainly would like to have it.
You are a developer.
> > This could also be added as a tip in the FAQ.
>
> Maybe the item could be moved down in the menu close to the latex log
> file and we could call it 'View LaTeX Source', but it should stay
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:04:41PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> Having easy access to the .tex is currently an important means to debug the
> output LyX creates.
The people able and needing to debug .tex are more than capable of
adding a menu entry. The people who wouldn't even think of
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 02:08:18PM +, John Levon wrote:
> > I certainly would like to have it.
>
> You are a developer.
Currently I am a user.
> > Maybe the item could be moved down in the menu close to the latex log
> > file and we could call it 'View LaTeX Sou
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 02:11:22PM +, John Levon wrote:
> I can't say I'm happy about you sneaking the UI in under our noses.
Please?
Care to post your definition of "sneaking in thing under your noses"?
Andre'
--
Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security,
will not
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 03:11:03PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > You are a developer.
>
> Currently I am a user.
OK sure. A particularly able and clued-in power user ...
> Btw: this was not my idea in the beginning
> but I found it so useful that I adapted it.
Oh, sure. Don't get me wrong,
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 02:15:46PM +, John Levon wrote:
> Oh, sure. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it is useful for a number of
> people. The question is whether it's really needed by the "default
> user". But it seems you don't like arguing about UI, so in the future
> I'll just fix stuff back
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 03:13:15PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > I can't say I'm happy about you sneaking the UI in under our noses.
>
> Please?
>
> Care to post your definition of "sneaking in thing under your noses"?
Please point me to where in the mailing list you mentioned you were
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 02:30:17PM +, John Levon wrote:
> Please point me to where in the mailing list you mentioned you were
> going to do this.
Please tell me how to obtain the archives of lyx-devel and lyx-cvs from
June-August 2002.
Andre'
--
Those who desire to give up Freedom in
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 03:36:03PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> Please tell me how to obtain the archives of lyx-devel and lyx-cvs from
> June-August 2002.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-devel=1=2
regards
john
--
"Yeah, I woke up in the day accidentally once, the moon was on fire for
Where did this come from, and why ?
john
--
Yeah, I woke up in the day accidentally once, the moon was on fire for some
reason and I couldn't see very well and all the bandwidth disappeared, it was
very scary :(
- Orion
Where did this come from, and why ?
john
--
"Yeah, I woke up in the day accidentally once, the moon was on fire for some
reason and I couldn't see very well and all the bandwidth disappeared, it was
very scary :("
- Orion
Hi,
The View-LaTeX is cute, but using xterm+less is too low level.
Why not throwing the text of the LaTeX file into a text dialog window, that
allows scrolling?
Rob.
Andre Poenitz wrote:
On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 04:12:56PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote:
The View-LaTeX is cute, but using xterm+less is too low level.
Why not throwing the text of the LaTeX file into a text dialog window, that
allows scrolling?
Because xterm+less comes for free while a text
useful feature for debugging, co-operation
with non-LyX-users, and even to overcome deficiencies in LyX's
searchreplace.
LyX is not a LaTeX editor. But if you want it to be, the menu-item
should be moved to Edit-LaTeX output, instead of View-LaTeX.
It is calling less, which is a viewer
Andre Poenitz wrote:
On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 04:53:26PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote:
edit/save in less? Is that possible?
Type 'v' and $EDITOR pops up.
Even if it is, I would consider
that as an unwanted feature.
Then edit you default.ui and you get rid of it. Having one-click-access
On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 09:15:13PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote:
So, if I'm right, Update-LaTeX can never work, it better should go then.
Patch please.
Andre'
--
Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security,
will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
On Friday 16 August 2002 1:15 pm, Rob Lahaye wrote:
Andre Poenitz wrote:
On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 04:53:26PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote:
edit/save in less? Is that possible?
Type 'v' and $EDITOR pops up.
Even if it is, I would consider
that as an unwanted feature.
Then edit you
Hi,
The View-LaTeX is cute, but using xterm+less is too low level.
Why not throwing the text of the LaTeX file into a text dialog window, that
allows scrolling?
Rob.
Andre Poenitz wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 04:12:56PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote:
>
>>The View-LaTeX is cute, but using xterm+less is too low level.
>>Why not throwing the text of the LaTeX file into a text dialog window, that
>>allows scrolling?
>
>
> Becaus
ced LaTeX is a very useful feature for debugging, co-operation
with non-LyX-users, and even to overcome deficiencies in LyX's
search
> LyX is not a LaTeX editor. But if you want it to be, the menu-item
> should be moved to "Edit->LaTeX output", instead of "View->LaTeX"
Andre Poenitz wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 04:53:26PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote:
>
>>edit/save in less? Is that possible?
>
>
> Type 'v' and $EDITOR pops up.
>
>
>>Even if it is, I would consider
>>that as an unwanted feature.
>
>
> Then edit you default.ui and you get rid of it. Having
On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 09:15:13PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote:
> So, if I'm right, Update->LaTeX can never work, it better should go then.
Patch please.
Andre'
--
Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security,
will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
On Friday 16 August 2002 1:15 pm, Rob Lahaye wrote:
> Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 04:53:26PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote:
> >>edit/save in less? Is that possible?
> >
> > Type 'v' and $EDITOR pops up.
> >
> >>Even if it is, I would consider
> >>that as an unwanted feature.
> >
>
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 01:43:56 -0700, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote:
Yep. That's the weird thing. The log file exists and yet it can't be seen by
Lyx! I'm not using a temp directory if that makes any difference?
Hmmm... Are you able to package this up as a small example for me to
reproduce?
Is it
"Ben" == Ben Cazzolato [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ben Guys Found the problem. Think it's a bug in Lyx. The only way I
Ben can get it to view the latex log file is by starting lyx in the
Ben directory in which my file resides. Generally I launch lyx from
Ben the desktop icon which starts Lyx in
JM
Ben Guys Found the problem. Think it's a bug in Lyx. The only way I
Ben can get it to view the latex log file is by starting lyx in the
Ben directory in which my file resides. Generally I launch lyx from
Ben the desktop icon which starts Lyx in my home dir and therefore it
Ben can't see
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 01:43:56 -0700, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote:
>> Yep. That's the weird thing. The log file exists and yet it can't be seen by
>> Lyx! I'm not using a temp directory if that makes any difference?
>
>Hmmm... Are you able to package this up as a small example for me to
>reproduce?
> "Ben" == Ben Cazzolato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ben> Guys Found the problem. Think it's a bug in Lyx. The only way I
Ben> can get it to view the latex log file is by starting lyx in the
Ben> directory in which my file resides. Generally I launch lyx from
Ben> the desktop icon which
JM
> Ben> Guys Found the problem. Think it's a bug in Lyx. The only way I
> Ben> can get it to view the latex log file is by starting lyx in the
> Ben> directory in which my file resides. Generally I launch lyx from
> Ben> the desktop icon which starts Lyx in my home dir and therefore it
> Ben>
Kayvan et al
On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 05:07:58PM +0100, Ben Cazzolato wrote:
Guys
Running lyxgdb-1.1.4-fix3.i386.rpm .
I tried Edit View Latex Log File and it simply gives me "unable to show log
file". Am I missing something? (Yes, I have looked the manuals).
Reg
On Tue, Apr 11, 2000 at 09:34:12AM +0100, Ben Cazzolato wrote:
Kayvan et al
This is after you Run Latex or View DVI, or View Postscript?
Yep. That's the weird thing. The log file exists and yet it can't be seen by
Lyx! I'm not using a temp directory if that makes any difference?
Kayvan et al
Hmmm... Are you able to package this up as a small example for me to
reproduce?
Is it repeatable?
I've never seen anything like you describe. :-(
No real point trying to package up an example as it is the same with every
file. I'm running lyxgdb. Is there some way I can
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Ben Cazzolato wrote:
Kayvan et al
Hmmm... Are you able to package this up as a small example for me to
reproduce?
Is it repeatable?
I've never seen anything like you describe. :-(
No real point trying to package up an example as it is the same with every
Guys
Found the problem. Think it's a bug in Lyx. The only way I can get it to view
the latex log file is by starting lyx in the directory in which my file
resides. Generally I launch lyx from the desktop icon which starts Lyx in my
home dir and therefore it can't see the log file. Maybe the
Kayvan et al
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 05:07:58PM +0100, Ben Cazzolato wrote:
> > Guys
> >
> > Running lyxgdb-1.1.4-fix3.i386.rpm .
> >
> > I tried Edit > View Latex Log File and it simply gives me "unable to show log
> > file". Am I
On Tue, Apr 11, 2000 at 09:34:12AM +0100, Ben Cazzolato wrote:
> Kayvan et al
>
> > This is after you Run Latex or View DVI, or View Postscript?
>
> Yep. That's the weird thing. The log file exists and yet it can't be seen by
> Lyx! I'm not using a temp directory if that makes any
Kayvan et al
> Hmmm... Are you able to package this up as a small example for me to
> reproduce?
>
> Is it repeatable?
>
> I've never seen anything like you describe. :-(
No real point trying to package up an example as it is the same with every
file. I'm running lyxgdb. Is there some way I
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Ben Cazzolato wrote:
> Kayvan et al
>
> > Hmmm... Are you able to package this up as a small example for me to
> > reproduce?
> >
> > Is it repeatable?
> >
> > I've never seen anything like you describe. :-(
>
> No real point trying to package up an example as it is the
Guys
Found the problem. Think it's a bug in Lyx. The only way I can get it to view
the latex log file is by starting lyx in the directory in which my file
resides. Generally I launch lyx from the desktop icon which starts Lyx in my
home dir and therefore it can't see the log file. Maybe the
Guys
Running lyxgdb-1.1.4-fix3.i386.rpm .
I tried Edit View Latex Log File and it simply gives me "unable to show log
file". Am I missing something? (Yes, I have looked the manuals).
Regards
Ben
On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 05:07:58PM +0100, Ben Cazzolato wrote:
Guys
Running lyxgdb-1.1.4-fix3.i386.rpm .
I tried Edit View Latex Log File and it simply gives me "unable to show log
file". Am I missing something? (Yes, I have looked the manuals).
Regards
Ben
This is aft
Guys
Running lyxgdb-1.1.4-fix3.i386.rpm .
I tried Edit > View Latex Log File and it simply gives me "unable to show log
file". Am I missing something? (Yes, I have looked the manuals).
Regards
Ben
On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 05:07:58PM +0100, Ben Cazzolato wrote:
> Guys
>
> Running lyxgdb-1.1.4-fix3.i386.rpm .
>
> I tried Edit > View Latex Log File and it simply gives me "unable to show log
> file". Am I missing something? (Yes, I have looked the manuals).
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