Re: Article about LyX

2024-04-03 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, dem 02.04.2024 um 20:40 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck: > https://www.baeldung.com/cs/lyx-tutorial > > Ran into it today... That's a nice one. -- Jürgen -- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-devel

Article about LyX

2024-04-02 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
https://www.baeldung.com/cs/lyx-tutorial Ran into it today... -- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-devel

SVG to PDF conversion (was: Complaints about LyX on Mac)

2017-09-13 Thread Guenter Milde
On 13.09.17, Stephan Witt wrote: > Am 12.09.2017 um 09:19 schrieb Guenter Milde : > > On 14.08.17, Stephan Witt wrote: > >> Am 14.08.2017 um 14:46 schrieb Guenter Milde : > >>> On 2017-08-14, Stephan Witt wrote: > Am 14.08.2017 um 09:43 schrieb

Re: rc1 blocker? (was: Complaints about LyX on Mac)

2017-09-12 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 12.09.2017 um 09:19 schrieb Guenter Milde : > > On 14.08.17, Stephan Witt wrote: >> Am 14.08.2017 um 14:46 schrieb Guenter Milde : >>> On 2017-08-14, Stephan Witt wrote: Am 14.08.2017 um 09:43 schrieb Jean-Pierre Chrétien

rc1 blocker? (was: Complaints about LyX on Mac)

2017-09-12 Thread Guenter Milde
On 14.08.17, Stephan Witt wrote: > Am 14.08.2017 um 14:46 schrieb Guenter Milde : > > On 2017-08-14, Stephan Witt wrote: > >> Am 14.08.2017 um 09:43 schrieb Jean-Pierre Chrétien > >> : > > > >>> 1) opening splash.lyx, gets a message > > > >>>

Re: Complaints about LyX on Mac

2017-08-27 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 04:09:41PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > I think that it suffices using a QCoreApplication instead of QApplication. No, I was wrong. A QGuiApplication is necessary for using QPixmap. -- Enrico

Re: Complaints about LyX on Mac

2017-08-27 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 02:48:14PM +0200, Stephan Witt wrote: > Am 27.08.2017 um 14:35 schrieb Stephan Witt : > > > > Thank you for your ideas… your hint regarding the change for #9778 was > > useful too. I’m not 100% sure how it works now. Before the fix for #9778, no converter

Re: Complaints about LyX on Mac

2017-08-27 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 27.08.2017 um 14:35 schrieb Stephan Witt : > > Am 27.08.2017 um 12:01 schrieb Enrico Forestieri : >> >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 08:14:57PM +0200, Stephan Witt wrote: >>> >>> ATM, I don’t have a solution for this problem. The inclusion of ImageMagick >>> as

Re: Complaints about LyX on Mac

2017-08-27 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 27.08.2017 um 12:01 schrieb Enrico Forestieri : > > On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 08:14:57PM +0200, Stephan Witt wrote: >> >> ATM, I don’t have a solution for this problem. The inclusion of ImageMagick >> as part of the LyX bundle doesn’t look attractive. Much work and not a good >>

Re: Complaints about LyX on Mac

2017-08-27 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 08:14:57PM +0200, Stephan Witt wrote: > > ATM, I don’t have a solution for this problem. The inclusion of ImageMagick > as part of the LyX bundle doesn’t look attractive. Much work and not a good > system design. And definitively not possible for the LyX 2.3.0 release. I

Re: Complaints about LyX on Mac

2017-08-26 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 25.08.2017 um 17:33 schrieb Enrico Forestieri : > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 05:24:54PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 02:40:12PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: >>> Den 24. aug. 2017 18:20, skrev Uwe Stöhr: Please do not remove mages, this

Re: Complaints about LyX on Mac

2017-08-25 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 05:24:54PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 02:40:12PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > > Den 24. aug. 2017 18:20, skrev Uwe Stöhr: > > > > > > Please do not remove mages, this is in my opinion not the right way. The > > > right way should always be

Re: Complaints about LyX on Mac

2017-08-25 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 02:40:12PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > Den 24. aug. 2017 18:20, skrev Uwe Stöhr: > > > > Please do not remove mages, this is in my opinion not the right way. The > > right way should always be to set up a fully functional LyX during the > > installation > > I agree. >

Re: Complaints about LyX on Mac

2017-08-25 Thread Helge Hafting
Den 24. aug. 2017 18:20, skrev Uwe Stöhr: Please do not remove mages, this is in my opinion not the right way. The right way should always be to set up a fully functional LyX during the installation I agree. Now, if SVG support isn't possible on all platforms, then there is the

Re: Complaints about LyX on Mac

2017-08-24 Thread Uwe Stöhr
On 23.08.2017 12:47, Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote: If a MacOS user has not inskscape nor librsvg installed I don't know macOS but the correct solution should be to check what SVG image conversion program is available on the computer and set ths automatically to the LyX preferences when LyX is

Re: Complaints about LyX on Mac

2017-08-23 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 23.08.2017 um 09:47 schrieb Jean-Pierre Chrétien : > > Le 14/08/2017 à 09:43, Jean-Pierre Chrétien a écrit : > >> A French user complains sadly about a couple of problems with LyX (first >> experience). > > Thanks for your answers, here is a summary. Hi

Re: Complaints about LyX on Mac

2017-08-23 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien
Le 14/08/2017 à 09:43, Jean-Pierre Chrétien a écrit : A French user complains sadly about a couple of problems with LyX (first experience). Thanks for your answers, here is a summary. His problems: 1) opening splash.lyx, gets a message No information for converting svgz format files to

Re: Complaints about LyX on Mac

2017-08-15 Thread Guenter Milde
endencies and recommendations. In Debian/stable, LyX depends on libqt5svg5 (>=5.6.0~beta) and suggests librsvg2-bin or inkscape. * If the QT svg library is always requrired, it could/should be used as fallback for the conversion of svg/svgz images in the GUI-preview. * If some requirement f

Re: Complaints about LyX on Mac

2017-08-14 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
O). And when he wants to open it, this > triggers the firefox of his windows virtual box. Then he goes to > Tools>Preferences>Converters and is quite sarcastic about the dialog > window about LyXHTML, which he does not understand. It's a bit > curious in fact (no viewer defined

Re: Complaints about LyX on Mac

2017-08-14 Thread Richard Heck
On 08/14/2017 09:08 AM, Stephan Witt wrote: > > Another option I’d like to propose would be a dedicated LFUN for opening > the example file to be opened like the help files which > can be used to point the file open dialog to the system examples folder > when fired without argument. This LFUN may

Re: Complaints about LyX on Mac

2017-08-14 Thread Stephan Witt
, As he does not find it >>> in the Mac directories, he finally opens the lyx package and >>> uncompresses it in a local place. > >>> Two questions there: here I have a 'Examples' button wheb I select >>> File>Open. Is it true on Mac as well? > > No

Re: Complaints about LyX on Mac

2017-08-14 Thread Guenter Milde
a 'Examples' button wheb I select >> File>Open. Is it true on Mac as well? No, on Windows and Mac the "Examples" and "Templates" buttons are missing. See http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/8715 >> Where is the installation folder on Mac? The lyx directories are shown

Re: Complaints about LyX on Mac

2017-08-14 Thread Stephan Witt
derstand. > It's a bit curious in fact (no viewer defined), see attached. Ok, docbook makes e.g. HTML output. It seems the user got the windows browser as default viewer for these files. I cannot tell why and how to change that. The design of the Converters dialog is not OS-specific, IMO

Re: About LyX web site and wiki site (Was: lyx.org is down again)

2016-11-27 Thread Joel Kulesza
On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 3:54 AM, Christian Ridderström < christian.ridderst...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 3 November 2016 at 00:46, Joel Kulesza wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 7:25 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes >> wrote: >>> >>> If you are interested in

About LyX web site and wiki site (Was: lyx.org is down again)

2016-11-27 Thread Christian Ridderström
Hi Joel, On 3 November 2016 at 00:46, Joel Kulesza wrote: > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 7:25 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes > wrote: >> >> If you are interested in updating this part of the wiki, we can give you >> the necessary passwords :) Indeed everything is

Re: Re: Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help About LyX Version

2012-10-31 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 4:19 AM, Kornel Benko kor...@lyx.org wrote: Am Donnerstag, 11. Oktober 2012 um 08:23:04, schrieb Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Scott Kostyshak

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help About LyX Version

2012-10-31 Thread Scott Kostyshak
C Compiler: gcc C Compiler LyX flags: C Compiler flags: -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Wformat-security This is actually useless since we do not compile C anymore. I propose to remove it, Is the

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help About LyX Version

2012-10-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 31/10/2012 08:20, Scott Kostyshak a écrit : C Compiler: gcc C Compiler LyX flags: C Compiler flags: -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Wformat-security This is actually useless since we do not compile

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help About LyX Version

2012-10-31 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:30 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote: Le 31/10/2012 08:20, Scott Kostyshak a écrit : C Compiler: gcc C Compiler LyX flags: C Compiler flags: -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -g -O2 -fstack-protector

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help About LyX Version

2012-10-31 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org wrote: Op 3-10-2012 12:10, Scott Kostyshak schreef: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote: Le 01/10/2012

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help About LyX Version

2012-10-31 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote: OK it's in. Let me know if there's anything else I can do on this. Could we also have the GIT hash information here? It would be very useful for the daily builds on the PPA, as time alone is an imperfect indicator. Liviu

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help About LyX Version

2012-10-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 31/10/2012 14:06, Liviu Andronic a écrit : On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote: OK it's in. Let me know if there's anything else I can do on this. Could we also have the GIT hash information here? It would be very useful for the daily builds on the PPA,

Re: Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help About LyX Version

2012-10-31 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2012 um 14:18:30, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org Le 31/10/2012 14:06, Liviu Andronic a écrit : On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote: OK it's in. Let me know if there's anything else I can do on this. Could we

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help About LyX Version

2012-10-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 31/10/2012 16:41, Kornel Benko a écrit : git log -1 --format=%H %ci Or simply git log -1 --format=%h What I do not know is where to put such code so that it is always up to date. This should replace the date for development releases. JMarc

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help About LyX Version

2012-10-31 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: What I do not know is where to put such code so that it is always up to date. This should replace the date for development releases. 1) linker time, something along the lines LDFLAGS += --defsym __GITSHA=$$(git -1 log blablabla)) and in the code extern char

Re: Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help About LyX Version

2012-10-31 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2012 um 16:46:53, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org Le 31/10/2012 16:41, Kornel Benko a écrit : git log -1 --format=%H %ci Or simply git log -1 --format=%h What I do not know is where to put such code so that it is always up to date. This

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help About LyX Version

2012-10-31 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org writes: | Le 31/10/2012 16:41, Kornel Benko a écrit : git log -1 --format=%H %ci | Or simply | git log -1 --format=%h | What I do not know is where to put such code so that it is always up | to date. This should replace the date for development

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help About LyX Version

2012-10-31 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org writes: | Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: What I do not know is where to put such code so that it is always up to date. This should replace the date for development releases. | 1) linker time, something along the lines LDFLAGS += --defsym | __GITSHA=$$(git -1 log

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help About LyX Version

2012-10-31 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Kornel Benko kor...@lyx.org writes: | Am Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2012 um 16:46:53, schrieb Jean-Marc | Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org Le 31/10/2012 16:41, Kornel Benko a écrit : git log -1 --format=%H %ci Or simply git log -1 --format=%h What I do not know is where to put such code so

Re: Re: Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help > About LyX > Version

2012-10-31 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 4:19 AM, Kornel Benko wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 11. Oktober 2012 um 08:23:04, schrieb Scott Kostyshak > > >> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Liviu Andronic >> wrote: > >> > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Scott

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help > About LyX > Version

2012-10-31 Thread Scott Kostyshak
>>C Compiler: gcc >>C Compiler LyX flags: >>C Compiler flags: -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -g -O2 >> -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Wformat-security > > > This is actually useless since we do not compile C anymore. I propose to > remove it,

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help > About LyX > Version

2012-10-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 31/10/2012 08:20, Scott Kostyshak a écrit : C Compiler: gcc C Compiler LyX flags: C Compiler flags: -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Wformat-security This is actually useless since we do not compile

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help > About LyX > Version

2012-10-31 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:30 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 31/10/2012 08:20, Scott Kostyshak a écrit : > C Compiler: gcc C Compiler LyX flags: C Compiler flags: -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -g -O2 -fstack-protector

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help > About LyX > Version

2012-10-31 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > Op 3-10-2012 12:10, Scott Kostyshak schreef: > >> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes >>> wrote:

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help > About LyX > Version

2012-10-31 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > OK it's in. Let me know if there's anything else I can do on this. > Could we also have the GIT hash information here? It would be very useful for the daily builds on the PPA, as time alone is an imperfect indicator.

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help > About LyX > Version

2012-10-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 31/10/2012 14:06, Liviu Andronic a écrit : On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: OK it's in. Let me know if there's anything else I can do on this. Could we also have the GIT hash information here? It would be very useful for the daily builds on the

Re: Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help > About LyX > Version

2012-10-31 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2012 um 14:18:30, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes > Le 31/10/2012 14:06, Liviu Andronic a écrit : > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > >> OK it's in. Let me know if there's anything else I can do on this. > >>

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help > About LyX > Version

2012-10-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 31/10/2012 16:41, Kornel Benko a écrit : git log -1 --format="%H %ci" Or simply git log -1 --format="%h" What I do not know is where to put such code so that it is always up to date. This should replace the date for development releases. JMarc

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help > About LyX > Version

2012-10-31 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > What I do not know is where to put such code so that it is always up to > date. This should replace the date for development releases. 1) linker time, something along the lines LDFLAGS += --defsym __GITSHA=$$(git -1 log blablabla)) and in the code extern char

Re: Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help > About LyX > Version

2012-10-31 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2012 um 16:46:53, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes > Le 31/10/2012 16:41, Kornel Benko a écrit : > > git log -1 --format="%H %ci" > > Or simply >git log -1 --format="%h" > > What I do not know is where to put such code so that it is always up to >

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help > About LyX > Version

2012-10-31 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: | Le 31/10/2012 16:41, Kornel Benko a écrit : >> git log -1 --format="%H %ci" > | Or simply | git log -1 --format="%h" > | What I do not know is where to put such code so that it is always up | to date. This should replace the date for

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help > About LyX > Version

2012-10-31 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Pavel Sanda writes: | Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> What I do not know is where to put such code so that it is always up to >> date. This should replace the date for development releases. > | 1) linker time, something along the lines LDFLAGS += --defsym | __GITSHA=$$(git -1 log

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Make text selectable in Help > About LyX > Version

2012-10-31 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Kornel Benko writes: | Am Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2012 um 16:46:53, schrieb Jean-Marc | Lasgouttes >> Le 31/10/2012 16:41, Kornel Benko a écrit : >> > git log -1 --format="%H %ci" >> >> Or simply >>git log -1 --format="%h" >> >> What I do not know is

Re: Press about LyX

2012-10-21 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org writes: | Jerry wrote: Who among the LyX developers has the power to edit the press page, http://www.lyx.org/PressAboutLyX? Daniel has written an article about LyX for the HowToAnswer web site and would like to get it linked from the LyX press page. Surely

Re: Press about LyX

2012-10-21 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jürgen Spitzmüller <sp...@lyx.org> writes: | Jerry wrote: >> Who among the LyX developers has the power to edit the press page, >> http://www.lyx.org/PressAboutLyX? Daniel has written an article about LyX >> for the HowToAnswer web site and would like to get it linked fr

Re: Press about LyX

2012-10-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jerry wrote: Who among the LyX developers has the power to edit the press page, http://www.lyx.org/PressAboutLyX? Daniel has written an article about LyX for the HowToAnswer web site and would like to get it linked from the LyX press page. Surely this benefits the LyX community as well. I've

Re: Press about LyX

2012-10-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jerry wrote: > Who among the LyX developers has the power to edit the press page, > http://www.lyx.org/PressAboutLyX? Daniel has written an article about LyX > for the HowToAnswer web site and would like to get it linked from the LyX > press page. Surely this benefits the LyX commu

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-18 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2012/10/18 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org: How are these things called in Word Processors and PDF Readers in English UIs? Comments, AFAICS. Jürgen

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-18 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote: I wonder if the term Annotation for LyX Notes and comments would be better. I think less people would associate that with footnotes and marginal notes. Actually this would be a good idea. How are these things called in

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 18/10/2012 11:34, Liviu Andronic a écrit : On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote: I wonder if the term Annotation for LyX Notes and comments would be better. I think less people would associate that with footnotes and marginal notes. Actually this would be

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-18 Thread Pavel Sanda
Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: What about Version Control operations ? They probably affect the whole document, so move them to Document ? However, it's quite common to find that stuff under File. No, this really belongs to file, not to the document content. Again, inserting figures is very very

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-18 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2012-10-17, Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: On 17/10/12 11:26, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Marginal notes and footnotes are conceptually different to the LyX notes, despite the similar name. LyX notes are rather editiorial tools (adressed at the author/editor; except for greyed out maybe, which is

Re: About LyX menus & usability.

2012-10-18 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2012/10/18 Jürgen Spitzmüller : > How are these things called in Word Processors and PDF Readers in English UIs? "Comments", AFAICS. Jürgen

Re: About LyX menus & usability.

2012-10-18 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > I wonder if the term "Annotation" for LyX Notes and comments would be > better. I think less people would associate that with footnotes and > marginal notes. > Actually this would be a good idea. > How are these things

Re: About LyX menus & usability.

2012-10-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 18/10/2012 11:34, Liviu Andronic a écrit : On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: I wonder if the term "Annotation" for LyX Notes and comments would be better. I think less people would associate that with footnotes and marginal notes. Actually this

Re: About LyX menus & usability.

2012-10-18 Thread Pavel Sanda
Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: > What about "Version Control" operations ? They probably affect the whole > document, so move them to Document ? However, it's quite common to find > that stuff under "File". No, this really belongs to file, not to the document content. > Again, inserting figures is

Re: About LyX menus & usability.

2012-10-18 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2012-10-17, Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: > On 17/10/12 11:26, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: >> Marginal notes and footnotes are conceptually different to the >> LyX notes, despite the similar name. LyX notes are rather editiorial >> tools (adressed at the author/editor; except for "greyed out maybe, >>

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Pavel Sanda
Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: However, nobody seems to care about marginal note. So, I would readily move it to the Insert-Note sub-menu. At least, it will be 1 less entry in the crowded Insert menu. I think margin/foot note should be rather coupled together... I also noticed that the

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 17/10/2012 10:30, Pavel Sanda a écrit : Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: However, nobody seems to care about marginal note. So, I would readily move it to the Insert-Note sub-menu. At least, it will be 1 less entry in the crowded Insert menu. I think margin/foot note should be rather coupled

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2012/10/17 Pavel Sanda: Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: However, nobody seems to care about marginal note. So, I would readily move it to the Insert-Note sub-menu. At least, it will be 1 less entry in the crowded Insert menu. I think margin/foot note should be rather coupled together... Agreed.

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 17/10/2012 12:26, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Agreed. Marginal notes and footnotes are conceptually different to the LyX notes, despite the similar name. LyX notes are rather editiorial tools (adressed at the author/editor; except for greyed out maybe, which is a problematic case in itself).

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 15/10/12 22:41, Andrew Parsloe a écrit : Anyone who can drop pleonastic into a sentence hardly needs a native English speaker. Well I am able to check in a dictionary that the French word pléonastique actually translates to English (it looks like it comes from English actually). But of

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 17/10/12 11:26, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Marginal notes and footnotes are conceptually different to the LyX notes, despite the similar name. LyX notes are rather editiorial tools (adressed at the author/editor; except for greyed out maybe, which is a problematic case in itself). Footnotes,

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 09/10/12 14:44, Charles de Miramon wrote: Like Pavel, I find the Insert menu too long. Maybe, everything that relates to the life cycle of the document (annotations, branches) could go into 'Document' Do you mean: moving Insert-Branch to document ? AFAIU, it's really a local edit, so it

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 18/10/12 00:30, Tommaso Cucinotta a écrit : Do you mean: moving Insert-Branch to document ? AFAIU, it's really a local edit, so it should stay in Insert. Yes. What about Version Control operations ? They probably affect the whole document, so move them to Document ? However, it's quite

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 17/10/12 23:19, Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: On 17/10/12 11:26, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: For my lectures, I use marginal notes quite a lot, and I would be quite annoyed if they wouldn't be easily reachable anymore (via Alt+E+R in my German l7n currently). Further alternative/proposal: what

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 18/10/12 00:40, Tommaso Cucinotta a écrit : On 17/10/12 23:19, Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: On 17/10/12 11:26, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: For my lectures, I use marginal notes quite a lot, and I would be quite annoyed if they wouldn't be easily reachable anymore (via Alt+E+R in my German l7n

Re: Press about LyX

2012-10-17 Thread Jerry
Who among the LyX developers has the power to edit the press page, http://www.lyx.org/PressAboutLyX? Daniel has written an article about LyX for the HowToAnswer web site and would like to get it linked from the LyX press page. Surely this benefits the LyX community as well. Jerry On Oct 16

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Andrew Parsloe
On 18/10/2012 11:15 a.m., Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 15/10/12 22:41, Andrew Parsloe a écrit : Anyone who can drop pleonastic into a sentence hardly needs a native English speaker. Well I am able to check in a dictionary that the French word pléonastique actually translates to English (it

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote: But knowing which one of pane or panel is more suited to UI is more delicate. I'm no native English speaker either, but from my experience with FOSS programs the Source and Messages thingies that LyX has are

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2012/10/18 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org: Yes, but the point is that there is note and note. I agree that our current UI is not very good at separating the two (markup vs author annotation), but it is not a reason for making this worse. I wonder if the term Annotation for LyX Notes

Re: About LyX menus & usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Pavel Sanda
Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: > However, nobody seems to care about "marginal note". So, I would readily > move it to the Insert->Note sub-menu. At least, it will be 1 less entry in > the "crowded" Insert menu. I think margin/foot note should be rather coupled together... > I also noticed that the

Re: About LyX menus & usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 17/10/2012 10:30, Pavel Sanda a écrit : Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: However, nobody seems to care about "marginal note". So, I would readily move it to the Insert->Note sub-menu. At least, it will be 1 less entry in the "crowded" Insert menu. I think margin/foot note should be rather coupled

Re: About LyX menus & usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2012/10/17 Pavel Sanda: > Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: >> However, nobody seems to care about "marginal note". So, I would readily >> move it to the Insert->Note sub-menu. At least, it will be 1 less entry in >> the "crowded" Insert menu. > > I think margin/foot note should be rather coupled

Re: About LyX menus & usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 17/10/2012 12:26, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Agreed. Marginal notes and footnotes are conceptually different to the LyX notes, despite the similar name. LyX notes are rather editiorial tools (adressed at the author/editor; except for "greyed out maybe, which is a problematic case in

Re: About LyX menus & usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 15/10/12 22:41, Andrew Parsloe a écrit : Anyone who can drop "pleonastic" into a sentence hardly needs a native English speaker. Well I am able to check in a dictionary that the French word "pléonastique" actually translates to English (it looks like it comes from English actually). But

Re: About LyX menus & usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 17/10/12 11:26, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Marginal notes and footnotes are conceptually different to the LyX notes, despite the similar name. LyX notes are rather editiorial tools (adressed at the author/editor; except for "greyed out maybe, which is a problematic case in itself). Footnotes,

Re: About LyX menus & usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 09/10/12 14:44, Charles de Miramon wrote: Like Pavel, I find the Insert menu too long. Maybe, everything that relates to the life cycle of the document (annotations, branches) could go into 'Document' Do you mean: moving "Insert->Branch" to document ? AFAIU, it's really a local edit, so it

Re: About LyX menus & usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 18/10/12 00:30, Tommaso Cucinotta a écrit : Do you mean: moving "Insert->Branch" to document ? AFAIU, it's really a local edit, so it should stay in Insert. Yes. What about "Version Control" operations ? They probably affect the whole document, so move them to Document ? However, it's

Re: About LyX menus & usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 17/10/12 23:19, Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: On 17/10/12 11:26, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: For my lectures, I use marginal notes quite a lot, and I would be quite annoyed if they wouldn't be easily reachable anymore (via Alt+E+R in my German l7n currently). Further alternative/proposal: what

Re: About LyX menus & usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 18/10/12 00:40, Tommaso Cucinotta a écrit : On 17/10/12 23:19, Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: On 17/10/12 11:26, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: For my lectures, I use marginal notes quite a lot, and I would be quite annoyed if they wouldn't be easily reachable anymore (via Alt+E+R in my German l7n

Re: Press about LyX

2012-10-17 Thread Jerry
Who among the LyX developers has the power to edit the press page, http://www.lyx.org/PressAboutLyX? Daniel has written an article about LyX for the HowToAnswer web site and would like to get it linked from the LyX press page. Surely this benefits the LyX community as well. Jerry On Oct 16

Re: About LyX menus & usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Andrew Parsloe
On 18/10/2012 11:15 a.m., Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 15/10/12 22:41, Andrew Parsloe a écrit : Anyone who can drop "pleonastic" into a sentence hardly needs a native English speaker. Well I am able to check in a dictionary that the French word "pléonastique" actually translates to English

Re: About LyX menus & usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > But knowing which one of pane or panel is more suited to UI is more > delicate. > I'm no native English speaker either, but from my experience with FOSS programs the Source and Messages thingies that LyX has are

Re: About LyX menus & usability.

2012-10-17 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2012/10/18 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes : > Yes, but the point is that there is note and note. I agree that our current > UI is not very good at separating the two (markup vs author annotation), but > it is not a reason for making this worse. I wonder if the term "Annotation" for LyX

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-16 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2012-10-11, Kornel Benko wrote: [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit --] Am Donnerstag, 11. Oktober 2012 um 17:33:19, schrieb Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: -) move Marginal note (and Footnote ?) to Insert-Note sub-menu Knowing well that I'm opening pandora

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-16 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Guenter Milde wrote: However, I strongly suggest to rename it to something less missleading than short title. The often-discussed solution is outlined here: http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6753#comment:2 I'll try to get this done for 2.1. Jürgen

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-16 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 15/10/12 21:41, Andrew Parsloe wrote: The New Oxf. Dict. gives the familiar computer usage against pane and no such use against panel (but my copy of the dictionary dates from the 1990s). This suggests (but not strongly) that pane should be used. Pushed a couple of commits, let's see how

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-16 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 13/10/12 10:42, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Messages should be renamed message pane (panel?) so it is now (pane) LaTeX source = LaTeX Source Pane it doesn't show merely latex (even though it might be considered the main functionality), but also various other formats, which, ehm,

Re: About LyX menus usability.

2012-10-16 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 11/10/12 17:48, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2012/10/11 Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org: Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: -) move Marginal note (and Footnote ?) to Insert-Note sub-menu Footnote to submenu? No please (this is a too important feature). So, the footnote seems critical and everyone wants it

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