Lyx on Windows 7 Bug

2010-07-21 Thread Larry Maturo
I have a 64 bit Windows 7 installation. The install of Lyx version 167-4-25 went very smoothly. However, when it came up the text on the screen was virtually unintelligible. I brought up the DVI and printed it out and that was just fine. After playing with it for a while I believe the

Lyx on Windows 7 Bug

2010-07-21 Thread Larry Maturo
I have a 64 bit Windows 7 installation. The install of Lyx version 167-4-25 went very smoothly. However, when it came up the text on the screen was virtually unintelligible. I brought up the DVI and printed it out and that was just fine. After playing with it for a while I believe the

Re: Table slowness ?

2003-07-22 Thread larry
Is it insets in general? I have some ERT insets inside minipage insets, and they're darned slow at the moment. Quite speedy last week. On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 07:54:54PM +0100, John Levon wrote: Andre, what is the source of the table slowness at the moment ? Just trying to catch up

Re: Table slowness ?

2003-07-22 Thread larry
Is it insets in general? I have some ERT insets inside minipage insets, and they're darned slow at the moment. Quite speedy last week. On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 07:54:54PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > > Andre, what is the source of the table slowness at the moment ? > > Just trying to catch up >

Always Spellcheck Whole Document option?

2003-07-20 Thread larry
Would it be possible to create a user preference item that would cause spellchecker to always review the entire document, instead of from the current cursor position to the end of the document? I can't remember a single time I've ever wanted to use spellchecker, the way that it currently works.

Re: Always Spellcheck Whole Document option?

2003-07-20 Thread larry
How going from the current cursor position to the end, asking whether to continue from beginning?, then continuing until back to where you started. That's the typical behavior of word processors, I believe. Is that where LyX is headed? On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 06:19:13PM +0100, John Levon

Re: Always Spellcheck Whole Document option?

2003-07-20 Thread larry
Thanks! Macros can change the game considerably, I see. On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote: On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be possible to create a user preference item that would cause spellchecker to always review the entire

Always Spellcheck Whole Document option?

2003-07-20 Thread larry
Would it be possible to create a user preference item that would cause spellchecker to always review the entire document, instead of from the current cursor position to the end of the document? I can't remember a single time I've ever wanted to use spellchecker, the way that it currently works.

Re: Always Spellcheck Whole Document option?

2003-07-20 Thread larry
How going from the current cursor position to the end, asking whether to "continue from beginning?", then continuing until back to where you started. That's the typical behavior of word processors, I believe. Is that where LyX is headed? On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 06:19:13PM +0100, John Levon

Re: Always Spellcheck Whole Document option?

2003-07-20 Thread larry
Thanks! Macros can change the game considerably, I see. On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Would it be possible to create a user preference item that would cause > > spellchecker to always review the entire

Re: why cut-paste text from other documents = blue underlined?

2003-07-14 Thread larry
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 03:15:26PM -0300, Garst R. Reese wrote: ...Preferences-Lang OptsLanguageMark foreign Thanks. Couldn't find that one. With this available, the function certainly makes sense.

Re: why cut-paste text from other documents = blue underlined?

2003-07-14 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 12:39:48AM +0100, John Levon wrote: , it is desired that LyX should automatically change the language of the copied text to American, and then the user should fix the spelling. And what if it's *not* intended to be a single-language document ? You just broke my

Re: why cut->paste text from other documents = blue underlined?

2003-07-14 Thread larry
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 03:15:26PM -0300, Garst R. Reese wrote: > ...Preferences->Lang Opts>Language>Mark foreign <> Thanks. Couldn't find that one. With this available, the function certainly makes sense.

Re: why cut->paste text from other documents = blue underlined?

2003-07-14 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 12:39:48AM +0100, John Levon wrote: > > >, it is desired that LyX should automatically change the language of > > the copied text to American, and then the user should fix the spelling. > > And what if it's *not* intended to be a single-language document ? You > just

Re: why cut-paste text from other documents = blue underlined?

2003-07-13 Thread larry
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 02:53:19AM +0100, John Levon wrote: Blue underlining means different language (and you can turn it off if you like) I see what is happening. British and American language specified documents are shared among our offices. Cutting and pasting between them is triggering

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-13 Thread larry
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 03:53:14AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | As to your request for specifics, I haven't decided whether it's worth the | effort to dredge up and advocate past ambitious proposals, a subset of which | have been outlined on this list over

Re: why cut->paste text from other documents = blue underlined?

2003-07-13 Thread larry
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 02:53:19AM +0100, John Levon wrote: > Blue underlining means different language (and you can turn it off if > you like) I see what is happening. British and American language specified documents are shared among our offices. Cutting and pasting between them is

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-13 Thread larry
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 03:53:14AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > | As to your request for specifics, I haven't decided whether it's worth the > | effort to dredge up and advocate past ambitious proposals, a subset of which > | have been outlined on this list

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-12 Thread larry
of new users plus the total number of users who switch. Larry Marso wrote: Gadzooks! The greatest good for the greatest number? Strict utilitarianism! If it weren't for the utilitarian value of LyX, I'd be happy with vi editing .tex files like I used to. Er, that's utilitarianism

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-12 Thread larry
Kuba responded to three of my postings on this thread. Please Lars, can I write a brief response without you trying to reignite a week-old flame war? As to your request for specifics, I haven't decided whether it's worth the effort to dredge up and advocate past ambitious proposals, a subset of

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-12 Thread larry
gt; > > exceed the total number of new users plus the total number of users who > > > switch. > > Larry Marso wrote: > > Gadzooks! The greatest good for the greatest number? Strict > > utilitarianism! > > If it weren't for the utilitarian value of LyX,

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-12 Thread larry
Kuba responded to three of my postings on this thread. Please Lars, can I write a brief response without you trying to reignite a week-old flame war? As to your request for specifics, I haven't decided whether it's worth the effort to dredge up and advocate past ambitious proposals, a subset of

Re: feature request: ERT lock

2003-07-08 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 12:48:17PM +0100, John Levon wrote: Then get a source control system, and use it... That's rich. Unfortunately, I've put LyX in the hands of some less-than-power users. Why does using minipage instead of ERT directly provide *any* extra protection ? You've lost

Re: feature request: ERT lock

2003-07-08 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 04:43:54PM +0100, John Levon wrote: On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 06:52:20AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't need to be a power user to use source control, and depending on your circumstances, the user may not even need to see the SCS at all True, but it wouldn't

Re: feature request: ERT lock

2003-07-08 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 12:48:17PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > > Then get a source control system, and use it... That's rich. Unfortunately, I've put LyX in the hands of some less-than-power users. > Why does using minipage instead of ERT directly provide *any* extra > protection ? You've

Re: feature request: ERT lock

2003-07-08 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 04:43:54PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 06:52:20AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > You don't need to be a power user to use source control, and depending > on your circumstances, the user may not even need to see the SCS at all True, but it

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 11:04:14AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: larry I was rather shrill about the QT effort, in particular. In larry light of Trolltech's dual support for Unix and Windows, the QT larry frontend has always seemed destined to run aground on precisely larry this issue

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 09:15:08AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: [...] is bad because people might break the rules? Any situation that predictibly makes violations of the GPL into standard practice is, indeed, bad. That's an indictment of Troll Tech's practices, not LyX or QT development by

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 09:37:45AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: So what you are actually proposing is that the current developers or whoever distributes LyX (including Kayvan, the Linux distributors etc) take some legal risk just for the benefit of a random Windows user that's neither able to

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 10:05:23AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: Because LyX without the 'GUII effort' and further cleanups is in a state where adding new features is very difficult. Moreover, even if adding a new feature turns out to be possible it most likely adds to the current mess and

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 02:33:10PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: I've been using LyX for six years now, and I find - Layout - Document - Layout - Paragraph - Layout - Character very logical now. Interestingly, over my many years of using LyX, I've watched other word processing

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?alternative platforms

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 01:49:06PM +0100, John Levon wrote: Fundamental changes sometimes cause problems during periods of transition. This does not necessarily imply the change is bad. Of course not. But as an infrequent observer over a period of years, it's really striking to see that in

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 05:45:42PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: I think you are now fudding all over the place. What I find most remarkable about this discussion, Lars, is the emails I've received from sympathetic readers who don't want to have to deal with the ramifications of posting

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 09:10:54AM -0700, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: Do you have any examples? Be as specific as you can. Kayvan, I returned to evaluate whether to jump back into the LyX effort over a period of weeks and months (as I said in one of my first postings in 2003). Those focused on

feature request: ERT lock

2003-07-07 Thread larry
ERT can play an important role in creating templates, allowing for insertion of raw LaTeX at key points throughout a document. However, for inexperienced users using a template, it may be important that items of LaTeX be locked, so they may not be casually erased. In fact, I would find this

Re: feature request: ERT lock

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 09:06:27PM +0100, John Levon wrote: On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 11:40:45AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, for inexperienced users using a template, it may be important that items of LaTeX be locked, so they may not be casually erased. But I don't like the

Re: feature request: ERT lock

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 12:18:21AM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: Therefore an alternative proposal: what about introducing an inset -- we could call it InsetProtected -- that protects everything inside it from deletion? A little easier to code on the document level. And the thing remains

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 06:32:54PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: You have so far provided a lot of statements about the development of lyx and the lack of new features, about what has been done to the code and not, and what we have lost because of the drive for GUII. I've certainly said

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 05:10:54PM +0100, John Levon wrote: Some content from Larry ! :) Very funny, John. Any permutation is a distribution of some kind. This change in particular reflects the general move to an object-verb interface instead of a verb-object interface. Menus in general

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
What do you propose be done if someone builds and posts binaries somewhere else? Which is inevitable. On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 12:23:01PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: Well, distributing the sources of the native version without the binaries is really hypocritical, I think. If these source

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 12:12:40AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: And _who_ are you to tell people what they should use their spare time on? Put up or shut up, you are really beginning to annoy me now. Making fundamental UI changes, for functions that have been around for what, six or

Re: feature request: ERT lock

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 12:19:03AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: ERTs that is part of a paragraph _must_ be deleted if the paragraph as a whole is deleted. ERTs that is a paragraph of its own might need to be locked. Well, I suppose one could disqualify deletion of a block of text is a

Re: feature request: ERT lock

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 12:45:24AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: And there are two things here: - locking the contents of the instet from alteration - making the inset be indeletable. I have sympathy with the first one, I have problems with the second one. From the

2x blank spaces in text persist in 1.4.0cvs

2003-07-07 Thread larry
Editing text, if you insert hit a space at the end of a word (with other words already typed after it), then cntrl-right arrow to jump forward one word, then you are left with 2x blank spaces in the text which persist. I imagine this is buggy behavior.

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 12:51:52AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: - feature requests As I said, over a period of weeks and months, if I decide to become more involved, I'll sift through my old archives and attempt to reintroduce some of the nifty but long-abandoned historical

Re: feature request: ERT lock

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 01:22:53AM +0100, John Levon wrote: With templates we can have a .layout keyword. For documents in general, either the change tracking, or the standard Undo/Revert stuff will do IMO. Not sure I get your point about .layout. The problem I'm thinking about is the

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 01:15:49AM +0100, John Levon wrote: Whilst this is true, it would only make real sense to keep with a worse menu layout if we expect the total number of current users to forever exceed the total number of new users plus the total number of users who switch. Gadzooks!

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 02:53:55AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: If it canot be said out in the open... is it then worth saying? (as long as it concerns lyx?) Certainly, the LyX community should strive for an open atmosphere inviting of comment and feedback, where such an ethos can

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 11:04:14AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > larry> I was rather shrill about the QT effort, in particular. In > larry> light of Trolltech's dual support for Unix and Windows, the QT > larry> frontend has always seemed destined to run aground

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 09:15:08AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > [...] is bad because people might break the rules? Any situation that predictibly makes violations of the GPL into standard practice is, indeed, bad. That's an indictment of Troll Tech's practices, not LyX or QT development by

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 09:37:45AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > So what you are actually proposing is that the current developers or > whoever distributes LyX (including Kayvan, the Linux distributors etc) > take some legal risk just for the benefit of a random Windows user that's > neither

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 10:05:23AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > Because LyX without the 'GUII effort' and further cleanups is in a state > where adding new features is very difficult. Moreover, even if adding a > new feature turns out to be possible it most likely adds to the current > mess

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 02:33:10PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > I've been using LyX for six years now, and I find > > - Layout -> Document > - Layout -> Paragraph > - Layout -> Character > > very logical now. Interestingly, over my many years of using LyX, I've watched other word

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?alternative platforms

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 01:49:06PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > > Fundamental changes sometimes cause problems during periods of > transition. This does not necessarily imply the change is bad. Of course not. But as an infrequent observer over a period of years, it's really striking to see that

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 05:45:42PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > I think you are now fudding all over the place. What I find most remarkable about this discussion, Lars, is the emails I've received from sympathetic readers who don't want to have to deal with the "ramifications" of posting

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 09:10:54AM -0700, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: > Do you have any examples? Be as specific as you can. Kayvan, I returned to evaluate whether to jump back into the LyX effort over a period of weeks and months (as I said in one of my first postings in 2003). Those focused on

feature request: ERT lock

2003-07-07 Thread larry
ERT can play an important role in creating templates, allowing for insertion of raw LaTeX at key points throughout a document. However, for inexperienced users using a template, it may be important that items of LaTeX be "locked", so they may not be casually erased. In fact, I would find this

Re: feature request: ERT lock

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 09:06:27PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 11:40:45AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > However, for inexperienced users using a template, it may be important that > > items of LaTeX be "locked", so they may not be casually erased. > > But I don't

Re: feature request: ERT lock

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 12:18:21AM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > > Therefore an alternative proposal: what about introducing an inset -- > we could call it InsetProtected -- that protects everything inside it > from deletion? A little easier to code on the document level. And the > thing remains

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 06:32:54PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > You have so far provided a lot of statements about the development of > lyx and the lack of new features, about what has been done to the code > and not, and what we have lost because of the drive for GUII. I've certainly

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 05:10:54PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > > Some content from Larry ! :) Very funny, John. > Any permutation is a distribution of some kind. This change in > particular reflects the general move to an object-verb interface instead > of a verb-object i

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
What do you propose be done if someone builds and posts binaries somewhere else? Which is inevitable. On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 12:23:01PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > > > Well, distributing the sources of the native version without the > > binaries is really hypocritical, I think. If these

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 12:12:40AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > And _who_ are you to tell people what they should use their spare time > on? > > Put up or shut up, you are really beginning to annoy me now. Making fundamental UI changes, for functions that have been around for what,

Re: feature request: ERT lock

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 12:19:03AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > ERTs that is part of a paragraph _must_ be deleted if the paragraph as > a whole is deleted. > > ERTs that is a paragraph of its own might need to be locked. Well, I suppose one could disqualify deletion of a block of text

Re: feature request: ERT lock

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 12:45:24AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > And there are two things here: > - locking the contents of the instet from alteration > - making the inset be indeletable. > > I have sympathy with the first one, I have problems with the second > one. >From

2x blank spaces in text persist in 1.4.0cvs

2003-07-07 Thread larry
Editing text, if you insert hit a "space" at the end of a word (with other words already typed after it), then cntrl-right arrow to jump forward one word, then you are left with 2x blank spaces in the text which persist. I imagine this is buggy behavior.

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 12:51:52AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > - feature requests As I said, over a period of weeks and months, if I decide to become more involved, I'll sift through my old archives and attempt to reintroduce some of the nifty but long-abandoned historical

Re: feature request: ERT lock

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 01:22:53AM +0100, John Levon wrote: > > With templates we can have a .layout keyword. For documents in general, > either the change tracking, or the standard Undo/Revert stuff will do > IMO. Not sure I get your point about .layout. The problem I'm thinking about is the

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 01:15:49AM +0100, John Levon wrote: > > Whilst this is true, it would only make real sense to keep with a worse menu > layout if we expect the total number of current users to forever exceed the > total number of new users plus the total number of users who switch.

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-07 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 02:53:55AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > If it canot be said out in the open... is it then worth saying? > (as long as it concerns lyx?) Certainly, the LyX community should strive for an open atmosphere inviting of comment and feedback, where such an ethos can

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-05 Thread larry
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 01:25:58PM +0100, John Levon wrote: This isn't true: the licensing scheme is clearly documented. We were and are well aware of its drawbacks. I didn't exactly start questioning the QT effort yesterday, as you well know. No one would doubt your understanding of the

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-05 Thread larry
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 07:47:59PM +0100, John Levon wrote: Sorry, your head is stuck in the ground ... It's frankly a waste of my time ... You obviously have no conception ... You're making statements. You're not actually saying anything... You're arguing against a chimera I'm afraid ...

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-05 Thread larry
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 01:25:58PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > > This isn't true: the licensing scheme is clearly documented. We were and > are well aware of its drawbacks. I didn't exactly start questioning the QT effort yesterday, as you well know. No one would doubt your understanding of the

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-05 Thread larry
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 07:47:59PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > Sorry, your head is stuck in the ground ... > It's frankly a waste of my time ... > You obviously have no conception ... > You're making statements. You're not actually saying anything... > You're arguing against a chimera I'm afraid

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread larry
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 11:37:37AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Some context: Ruurd would like us to distribute this port (the binaries for now), but this is only possible if we change our license to explicitly allow for linking against Qt non-commercial binary-only version. Unless I'm

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread larry
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 01:16:31AM +0100, John Levon wrote: The problem here is not with the GPL, but with the Troll Tech business model and licensing practices, which puts open source applications under the GPL in this untenable position if developers wish to release Windows versions.

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread larry
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 11:37:37AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Some context: Ruurd would like us to distribute this port (the binaries for > now), but this is only possible if we change our license to explicitly allow > for linking against Qt non-commercial binary-only version. Unless

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread larry
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 01:16:31AM +0100, John Levon wrote: > > > The problem here is not with the GPL, but with the Troll Tech business model and > > licensing practices, which puts open source applications under the GPL in this > > untenable position if developers wish to release Windows

Re: Some info about lyx-qt 1.3.2 segfaults

2003-07-02 Thread larry
Hmm. I have lots of functioning qt apps under 3.1.2 with submenu navigation by keyboard shortcuts, but a broken LyX in this regard. Does the LyX qt frontend do something unusual, triggering this bug? On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 08:12:49AM +0200, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Fernando Perez wrote:

Fwd from another user with qt 3.1.2 menu fail

2003-07-02 Thread larry
- Forwarded message from Micha H. Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Micha H. Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Universität Freiburg To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: LyX-Problem Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 12:07:34 +0200 Hello Larry, I have the same problem like you with sub-menues

Re: Some info about lyx-qt 1.3.2 segfaults

2003-07-02 Thread larry
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 08:32:36AM +0200, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Not that I am aware of. Have your qt apps all been complied against the same qt version than LyX? Well, as you've found some evidence of this in the qt/kde community and other apps, apparently not. Can anyone assemble a

Re: Some info about lyx-qt 1.3.2 segfaults

2003-07-02 Thread larry
Hmm. I have lots of functioning qt apps under 3.1.2 with submenu navigation by keyboard shortcuts, but a broken LyX in this regard. Does the LyX qt frontend do something unusual, triggering this bug? On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 08:12:49AM +0200, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > Fernando Perez wrote: >

Fwd from another user with qt 3.1.2 menu fail

2003-07-02 Thread larry
- Forwarded message from "Micha H. Werner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: "Micha H. Werner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Universität Freiburg To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: LyX-Problem Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 12:07:34 +0200 Hello Larry, I have the same

Re: Some info about lyx-qt 1.3.2 segfaults

2003-07-02 Thread larry
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 08:32:36AM +0200, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > > Not that I am aware of. Have your qt apps all been complied against the same > qt version than LyX? Well, as you've found some evidence of this in the qt/kde community and other apps, apparently not. Can anyone assemble

Really, nothing further on qt menu fails?

2003-07-01 Thread larry
No one has any ideas??? On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 09:50:55AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. Running under GDB, the error not only crashes LyX, it causes the KDE window manager to lock up, and it doesn't seem recoverable. That means I can't run, cut and paste bt easily.

Re: Really, nothing further on qt menu fails?

2003-07-01 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 08:25:26PM +0200, Alfredo Braunstein wrote: You may need to issue ulimit -c unlimited to enable core dumps. Then do gdb core.PID lyx and then please post the output of 'bt' to the list. Alfredo: Thanks for the brief tutorial. Here is the bt: (gdb) bt #0

Re: Really, nothing further on qt menu fails?

2003-07-01 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 10:42:57PM +0100, John Levon wrote: This is entirely within Qt, we have no control over it. Possible causes are a compiler bug or some weird library mismatch. Be that as it may, it is endemic to redhat 9, as updated by redhat's own update rpms. A rather widely used

Re: Really, nothing further on qt menu fails?

2003-07-01 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 11:09:38PM +0100, John Levon wrote: Why aren't we seeing lots of reports then ? Hop on over to lyx-users. You'll see reports also by: Fernando Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matej Cepl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, if you didn't notice, here on lyx-devel, it's also

Really, nothing further on qt menu fails?

2003-07-01 Thread larry
No one has any ideas??? On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 09:50:55AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Interesting. Running under GDB, the error not only crashes LyX, it causes the > KDE window manager to lock up, and it doesn't seem recoverable. > > That means I can't run, cut and paste "bt" easily. >

Re: Really, nothing further on qt menu fails?

2003-07-01 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 08:25:26PM +0200, Alfredo Braunstein wrote: > You may need to issue > ulimit -c unlimited > to enable core dumps. > > Then do > gdb core.PID lyx > and then please post the output of 'bt' to the list. Alfredo: Thanks for the brief tutorial. Here is the bt: (gdb) bt

Re: Really, nothing further on qt menu fails?

2003-07-01 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 10:42:57PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > > This is entirely within Qt, we have no control over it. Possible causes > are a compiler bug or some weird library mismatch. Be that as it may, it is endemic to redhat 9, as updated by redhat's own update rpms. A rather widely used

Re: Really, nothing further on qt menu fails?

2003-07-01 Thread larry
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 11:09:38PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > Why aren't we seeing lots of reports then ? Hop on over to lyx-users. You'll see reports also by: Fernando Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matej Cepl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Also, if you didn't notice, here on lyx-devel, it's

Re: menu fails on qt-front 1.3.2

2003-06-27 Thread larry
Interesting. Running under GDB, the error not only crashes LyX, it causes the KDE window manager to lock up, and it doesn't seem recoverable. That means I can't run, cut and paste bt easily. However, the following line appears under gdb at the time of the crash: Program received signal

inability to control enumeration counter with ERT

2003-06-27 Thread larry
In a LyX document, you cannot insert the raw latex command \setcounter{enumi}{3} (for example) into any position where it will change the label of the first enumerated point in a list. If you insert it before the first point, which is outside the list environment, it has no effect.

Re: menu fails on qt-front 1.3.2

2003-06-27 Thread larry
Interesting. Running under GDB, the error not only crashes LyX, it causes the KDE window manager to lock up, and it doesn't seem recoverable. That means I can't run, cut and paste "bt" easily. However, the following line appears under gdb at the time of the crash: Program received

inability to control enumeration counter with ERT

2003-06-27 Thread larry
In a LyX document, you cannot insert the raw latex command \setcounter{enumi}{3} (for example) into any position where it will change the label of the first enumerated point in a list. If you insert it before the first point, which is outside the list environment, it has no effect.

menu fails on qt-front 1.3.2

2003-06-26 Thread larry
I'm experiencing consistent failures and core dumps using the keyboard to access sub-menu items in LyX 1.3.2 using the qt front-end. For example: alt-I (Insert) brings up the first menu, but then alt-S (Special Character) fails to bring up the submenu. Nothing happens.

Re: menu fails on qt-front 1.3.2

2003-06-26 Thread larry
Is there no one else who can address this? Is LyX 1.3.2 -- including the qt front-end code -- considered finished, in the can, a part of the past, with the obvious focus on 1.4.0cvs? Is qt-3.1.2 not the right version? Or is the qt front-end for LyX still not suited to serious usage? On Thu,

Any one else want the backtrace?

2003-06-26 Thread larry
I've sent the backtrace to Alfredo. Any body else want it? On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 10:03:03PM +0200, Alfredo Braunstein wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there no one else who can address this? qt version? lyx compiled by yourself or specific rpm? I cannot reproduce it, and it's the

menu fails on qt-front 1.3.2

2003-06-26 Thread larry
I'm experiencing consistent failures and core dumps using the keyboard to access sub-menu items in LyX 1.3.2 using the qt front-end. For example: alt-I (Insert) brings up the first menu, but then alt-S (Special Character) fails to bring up the submenu. Nothing happens.

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