Re: Wiki PW

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Dienstag, dem 07.03.2023 um 15:29 +0100 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:
> Could somebody (PM) please remind me of the password that is needed
> to approve external links on the wiki?

Found it meanwhile.

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Re: Wiki problems and where to report them

[Lorenzo Bertini]

Il 01/09/22 15:01, Pavel Sanda ha scritto:

On Thu, Sep 01, 2022 at 01:48:30PM +0200, Lorenzo Bertini wrote:

I can start maybe updating some pages with what I know,


That would be nice indeed.


but there are some things I just can't do as user.


Feel free to bring whatever access issues you have, we'll try to be helpful.


Where do I report for example that this page
https://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/ReleaseNotes has not been updated in years and
needs to be merged with https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX24?


There is no one to report to. Simply edit/fix/remove obsoleted stuff.
Or ask here if unsure about some changes.
In this particular case the ReleaseNotes is so off that you can just delete it
(or add correct links to newer versions).


Or that https://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/LyXGit and https://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Git
are basically the same thing and can be merged?


Again if you known git enough that you know what you are doing feel free to
merge them and delete the obsolete one.


Oh, ok. I'll see.




Also, I found a cool cookbook recipe for PmWiki that allows blocks of code
with highlighting, which is something I really miss here:
https://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/SourceBlock.


Does this need some new module to be installed?

Pavel


It requires geshi (downloadable from https://github.com/GeSHi/geshi-1.0) 
and the sourceblock recipe (at 
https://www.pmwiki.org/pmwiki/uploads/Cookbook/sourceblock.php). I tried 
it on a dummy server with latest pmwiki and it works out of the box.


But then again, we would only need it on Devel pages, and not in all of 
them. Now that I think about it it's pretty overkill.

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Re: Wiki problems and where to report them

[Pavel Sanda]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2022 at 01:48:30PM +0200, Lorenzo Bertini wrote:
> I can start maybe updating some pages with what I know,

That would be nice indeed.

> but there are some things I just can't do as user.

Feel free to bring whatever access issues you have, we'll try to be helpful.

> Where do I report for example that this page
> https://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/ReleaseNotes has not been updated in years and
> needs to be merged with https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX24? 

There is no one to report to. Simply edit/fix/remove obsoleted stuff.
Or ask here if unsure about some changes.
In this particular case the ReleaseNotes is so off that you can just delete it
(or add correct links to newer versions).

> Or that https://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/LyXGit and https://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Git
> are basically the same thing and can be merged?

Again if you known git enough that you know what you are doing feel free to
merge them and delete the obsolete one.

> Also, I found a cool cookbook recipe for PmWiki that allows blocks of code
> with highlighting, which is something I really miss here:
> https://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/SourceBlock.

Does this need some new module to be installed?

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Re: [Wiki site] recent notify posts

[Pavel Sanda]

On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 08:14:08AM +0200, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 02:54:04PM +0200, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> > > Looking at the news wiki I find the current separation on
> > >
> > > New features brought by the new file format vs General improvements
> > >
> > > to be way too technical for users. They can't choose LyX version without
> > > new file format change so what is the use of this distinction for them?
> > >
> > > Important general changes like DocBook are buried down behind important
> > > news like that we support Syriac doucument language (no offense).
> > >
> > > What about dropping it altogether and reorder the features little bit?
> > >
> > 
> > When addings things to that page, I also wondered why there was this
> > distinction (it only makes sense to LyX developers).
> 
> Unless I hear anyones objection I plan to remove this separation in wiki soon.

I reodered the items (mainly moved the topics I deemed important closer to 
the beginning of the page), feel free to rearange if your favourite feature
lags behind ;)

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Re: [Wiki site] recent notify posts

[Pavel Sanda]

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 02:54:04PM +0200, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> > Looking at the news wiki I find the current separation on
> >
> > New features brought by the new file format vs General improvements
> >
> > to be way too technical for users. They can't choose LyX version without
> > new file format change so what is the use of this distinction for them?
> >
> > Important general changes like DocBook are buried down behind important
> > news like that we support Syriac doucument language (no offense).
> >
> > What about dropping it altogether and reorder the features little bit?
> >
> 
> When addings things to that page, I also wondered why there was this
> distinction (it only makes sense to LyX developers).

Unless I hear anyones objection I plan to remove this separation in wiki soon.

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Re: [Wiki site] recent notify posts

[Thibaut Cuvelier]

On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 14:33, Pavel Sanda  wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 07:56:09AM +0200, Apache wrote:
> >
> > All recent posts: http://wiki.lyx.org/Site/AllRecentChanges
> >
> > * http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX.NewInLyX24 . . . 2020-08-25 07:56 CEST by
> spitz
>
> Looking at the news wiki I find the current separation on
>
> New features brought by the new file format
> vs
> General improvements
>
> to be way too technical for users. They can't choose LyX version without
> new
> file format change so what is the use of this distinction for them?
>
> Important general changes like DocBook are buried down behind important
> news
> like that we support Syriac doucument language (no offense).
>
> What about dropping it altogether and reorder the features little bit?
>

When addings things to that page, I also wondered why there was this
distinction (it only makes sense to LyX developers).
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Re: [Wiki site] recent notify posts

[Pavel Sanda]

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 07:56:09AM +0200, Apache wrote:
> 
> All recent posts: http://wiki.lyx.org/Site/AllRecentChanges
> 
> * http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX.NewInLyX24 . . . 2020-08-25 07:56 CEST by spitz

Looking at the news wiki I find the current separation on

New features brought by the new file format
vs
General improvements

to be way too technical for users. They can't choose LyX version without new
file format change so what is the use of this distinction for them?

Important general changes like DocBook are buried down behind important news
like that we support Syriac doucument language (no offense).

What about dropping it altogether and reorder the features little bit?

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Re: [Wiki site] recent notify posts

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 06:27:55PM +, Apache wrote:
> 
> All recent posts: http://wiki.lyx.org/Site/AllRecentChanges
> 
> * http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX.Dependecies . . . 2018-02-18 11:27 CET by ps
> * http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX.Dependecies . . . 2018-02-18 11:51 CET by spitz

I'm not sure if it is worth changing, but the URL is misspelled.
"Dependecies" should be "Dependencies". But perhaps it would cause more
damage than help to change it, e.g. if any site links to that URL (we
could make a redirect, but is it worth the trouble?).

Scott


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Re: wiki - Category link pages

[Christian Ridderström]

Tommaso Cucinotta  writes:

> Hi,
>
> I took some time to clean-up the empty template that was annoyingly showing 
> up when clicking on the bottom category link of each wiki page, namely:
>
> " summary/description of the page and it's purpose. It could be something like: 
> How to insert equations with specified equation numbers.>" ...
>
> which I replaced with a simple
>
> !!! Pages in Category: {*$Name}
>
> So, now those links should look like as having some more meaningful and 
> usable contents:
>
>   http://wiki.lyx.org/Category/Development
>   http://wiki.lyx.org/Category/Documentation
>   http://wiki.lyx.org/Category/Glossary
>   http://wiki.lyx.org/Category/Keyboard
>   http://wiki.lyx.org/Category/Layouts
>   http://wiki.lyx.org/Category/Manuals
>
> [just in case u notice anything mistakenly broken on the wiki category 
> links...]

Hi Tommaso,

I'm not sure I understand what you did...

Did you actually edit the template page, or did you create a number of
pages...?

I looked at a page history, e.g.:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Category/Development?action=diff

It seems that in 2011 we were fighting some spam bots, which initially
created the page. Then a developer replaced the page content with the
content of the template page. I have no idea why.

IIRC, the wiki is configured to automatically list pages in a category
for categories where there's no category specific page. This behaviour
is controlled by some template page (I don't remember which right now).

The "correct" fix is therefore to delete the spammed category pages.

If you prefer the content of the category pages you created we could
find the template page for non-existing category pages and modify that
accordingly.

What's your preference?
/Christian

PS
How to delete a wiki page:
I google how to "delete" a wiki page. You simply replace it's entire
markup with the single word "delete". That's it. See e.g. this page that
I just "deleted":

http://wiki.lyx.org/Category/Layouts

Re: wiki

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 05/08/2017 12:01 PM, john kennan wrote:

I tried to edit a link on
http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac?from=LyX.Mac#toc18
but it wants a password.

Please report any other bugs to the appropriate LyX mailing list.
This points to http://www.lyx.org/internet/mailing.php
but I guess it should point to http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists

John

I'll send you the last password I had for blessing new links out of 
band. If it's out of date, ping the list again.


Paul

Re: Wiki site approval password

[Andrew Parsloe]

On 30/05/2016 4:58 p.m., Andrew Parsloe wrote:
I've updated the spreadtab.module that was enquired about on the 
users' list recently. I have a link on the wiki to a Dropbox folder. I 
need a password to approve the site.


Andrew

Received. Thank you.

Andrew

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Re: Wiki: need two site approvals

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 25.10.2015 um 17:03 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:


I just added an entry to the wiki
(http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts/Modules#toc2, "Printing change bars") that
contains two links awaiting approval. None of the passwords I (vaguely)
remember seem to work for this, so if someone could bless them, I'd be
grateful.


Done.

I'll send you the pswd in a private mail.

regards Uwe

Re: Wiki updates

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 5:51 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org wrote:
 Hi all,

 I've updated the wiki so that it is possible now to link to files in the git
 repo.

 The following pages are now up to date:

 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ReleaseNotes
 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInBranch

Thanks, Vincent. Could this be a solution to our Wiki upload problem?
For example, we could create a new repo wiki and post files there
that people would like to link to in the Wiki. The Upload link,
which is now currently broken, could say something like send an email
to lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org with the file and a description of the file
you would like to upload and then one of us could commit to the repo.
It sounds a little complicated, but would be an improvement on the
current situation.

Scott

Re: Wiki updates

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 It sounds a little complicated, but would be an improvement on the
 current situation.

Except that all this is already done with via 
svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/www-user/trunk/images/svnwiki
together with proper shortcut to be used in wiki.

If you don't have svn write access, just ask JMarc.

Pavel

Re: Wiki updates

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:
 Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 It sounds a little complicated, but would be an improvement on the
 current situation.

 Except that all this is already done with via
 svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/www-user/trunk/images/svnwiki
 together with proper shortcut to be used in wiki.

OK. What directions should we have under the upload link in the
wiki? Currently it is blank.

Scott

Re: Wiki updates

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 OK. What directions should we have under the upload link in the
 wiki? Currently it is blank.

Your proposal for message to lyx-devel makes sense. Pavel

Re: Wiki updates

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:
 Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 OK. What directions should we have under the upload link in the
 wiki? Currently it is blank.

 Your proposal for message to lyx-devel makes sense. Pavel

I do not know how to edit the upload page. I tried

http://wiki.lyx.org/ipfm/index.php?action=edit
without success.

Also in the directions we should probably ask them to send a GPL
statement regarding the file or is that not necessary?

Scott

Re: Wiki updates

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 I do not know how to edit the upload page. I tried
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/ipfm/index.php?action=edit
 without success.

Yes, only our admin gurus can do that.

 Also in the directions we should probably ask them to send a GPL
 statement regarding the file or is that not necessary?

Until we want to release it within tarball we don't need to I guess.

Pavel

Re: Wiki updates

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:
 Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 I do not know how to edit the upload page. I tried

 http://wiki.lyx.org/ipfm/index.php?action=edit
 without success.

 Yes, only our admin gurus can do that.

Should I poke them directly?

 Also in the directions we should probably ask them to send a GPL
 statement regarding the file or is that not necessary?

 Until we want to release it within tarball we don't need to I guess.

Good point.

Scott

Re: Wiki updates

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
  Yes, only our admin gurus can do that.
 
 Should I poke them directly?

If they don't listen I would try throwing stones :)
P

Re: Wiki updates

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:
 Scott Kostyshak wrote:
  Yes, only our admin gurus can do that.

 Should I poke them directly?

 If they don't listen I would try throwing stones :)

Hm.. I'm pretty sure they could find much bigger stones to throw at
me. I'll wait a bit and then increase my annoyance level.

Scott

Re: Wiki updates

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 5:51 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've updated the wiki so that it is possible now to link to files in the git
> repo.
>
> The following pages are now up to date:
>
> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ReleaseNotes
> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInBranch

Thanks, Vincent. Could this be a solution to our Wiki upload problem?
For example, we could create a new repo "wiki" and post files there
that people would like to link to in the Wiki. The "Upload" link,
which is now currently broken, could say something like "send an email
to lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org with the file and a description of the file
you would like to upload and then one of us could commit to the repo".
It sounds a little complicated, but would be an improvement on the
current situation.

Scott

Re: Wiki updates

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> It sounds a little complicated, but would be an improvement on the
> current situation.

Except that all this is already done with via 
svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/www-user/trunk/images/svnwiki
together with proper shortcut to be used in wiki.

If you don't have svn write access, just ask JMarc.

Pavel

Re: Wiki updates

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Pavel Sanda  wrote:
> Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>> It sounds a little complicated, but would be an improvement on the
>> current situation.
>
> Except that all this is already done with via
> svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/www-user/trunk/images/svnwiki
> together with proper shortcut to be used in wiki.

OK. What directions should we have under the "upload" link in the
wiki? Currently it is blank.

Scott

Re: Wiki updates

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> OK. What directions should we have under the "upload" link in the
> wiki? Currently it is blank.

Your proposal for message to lyx-devel makes sense. Pavel

Re: Wiki updates

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Pavel Sanda  wrote:
> Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>> OK. What directions should we have under the "upload" link in the
>> wiki? Currently it is blank.
>
> Your proposal for message to lyx-devel makes sense. Pavel

I do not know how to edit the "upload" page. I tried

http://wiki.lyx.org/ipfm/index.php?action=edit
without success.

Also in the directions we should probably ask them to send a GPL
statement regarding the file or is that not necessary?

Scott

Re: Wiki updates

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> I do not know how to edit the "upload" page. I tried
> 
> http://wiki.lyx.org/ipfm/index.php?action=edit
> without success.

Yes, only our admin gurus can do that.

> Also in the directions we should probably ask them to send a GPL
> statement regarding the file or is that not necessary?

Until we want to release it within tarball we don't need to I guess.

Pavel

Re: Wiki updates

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Pavel Sanda  wrote:
> Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>> I do not know how to edit the "upload" page. I tried
>>
>> http://wiki.lyx.org/ipfm/index.php?action=edit
>> without success.
>
> Yes, only our admin gurus can do that.

Should I poke them directly?

>> Also in the directions we should probably ask them to send a GPL
>> statement regarding the file or is that not necessary?
>
> Until we want to release it within tarball we don't need to I guess.

Good point.

Scott

Re: Wiki updates

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> > Yes, only our admin gurus can do that.
> 
> Should I poke them directly?

If they don't listen I would try throwing stones :)
P

Re: Wiki updates

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Pavel Sanda  wrote:
> Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>> > Yes, only our admin gurus can do that.
>>
>> Should I poke them directly?
>
> If they don't listen I would try throwing stones :)

Hm.. I'm pretty sure they could find much bigger stones to throw at
me. I'll wait a bit and then increase my annoyance level.

Scott

Re: Wiki password needed

[Liviu Andronic]

Sent off-list.

Liviu

On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Andrew Parsloe apars...@clear.net.nz wrote:
 I've changed some links on the wiki under Examples/pLyX system. The various
 scripts, documentation etc. now live in a zipped archive on Dropbox (thank
 you Liviu), rather than being scattered (splattered?) through the mailing
 list archive. However a password is needed for the links to be approved.

 Andrew



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Re: Wiki password needed

[Liviu Andronic]

Sent off-list.

Liviu

On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Andrew Parsloe  wrote:
> I've changed some links on the wiki under Examples/pLyX system. The various
> scripts, documentation etc. now live in a zipped archive on Dropbox (thank
> you Liviu), rather than being scattered (splattered?) through the mailing
> list archive. However a password is needed for the links to be approved.
>
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Re: wiki pw

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Could someone please pass me the current passwort needed to approve links
 on  our wiki?

Got it.

Jürgen

Re: wiki pw

[Liviu Andronic]

 Juergen,
Could you share it with me? I also have some links to approve.

Thanks,
Liviu

Re: wiki pw

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Liviu Andronic wrote:
 Could you share it with me? I also have some links to approve.

I'll send it to you in PM.

Jürgen

Re: wiki pw

[Liviu Andronic]

On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:
 Liviu Andronic wrote:
 Could you share it with me? I also have some links to approve.

 I'll send it to you in PM.

Got it! Thanks,
Liviu

Re: wiki pw

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Could someone please pass me the current passwort needed to "approve" links
> on  our wiki?

Got it.

Jürgen

Re: wiki pw

[Liviu Andronic]

 Juergen,
Could you share it with me? I also have some links to approve.

Thanks,
Liviu

Re: wiki pw

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Liviu Andronic wrote:
> Could you share it with me? I also have some links to approve.

I'll send it to you in PM.

Jürgen

Re: wiki pw

[Liviu Andronic]

On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:
> Liviu Andronic wrote:
>> Could you share it with me? I also have some links to approve.
>
> I'll send it to you in PM.
>
Got it! Thanks,
Liviu

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 14/02/2013 06:25, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :

I made the change. The title is still MWE because I don't know how to
move a page. I could just cut/paste all of the info to a new page
MinimumExample but I wonder if there's a better way.


AFAIK, this is the normal way. And deleting a page is just removing its 
contents.


JMarc

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:50 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:
 Le 14/02/2013 06:25, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :

 I made the change. The title is still MWE because I don't know how to
 move a page. I could just cut/paste all of the info to a new page
 MinimumExample but I wonder if there's a better way.


 AFAIK, this is the normal way. And deleting a page is just removing its
 contents.

Done. But I could not delete the other page. I put category deleteme.

Scott

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:50 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:
  Le 14/02/2013 06:25, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :
 
  I made the change. The title is still MWE because I don't know how to
  move a page. I could just cut/paste all of the info to a new page
  MinimumExample but I wonder if there's a better way.
 
 
  AFAIK, this is the normal way. And deleting a page is just removing its
  contents.
 
 Done. But I could not delete the other page. I put category deleteme.

IIRC you have to put delete as the whole content of the page.
Pavel

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:
 Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:50 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:
  Le 14/02/2013 06:25, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :
 
  I made the change. The title is still MWE because I don't know how to
  move a page. I could just cut/paste all of the info to a new page
  MinimumExample but I wonder if there's a better way.
 
 
  AFAIK, this is the normal way. And deleting a page is just removing its
  contents.

 Done. But I could not delete the other page. I put category deleteme.

 IIRC you have to put delete as the whole content of the page.
 Pavel

YRC.

Thanks,

Scott

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 14/02/2013 06:25, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :

I made the change. The title is still MWE because I don't know how to
move a page. I could just cut/paste all of the info to a new page
"MinimumExample" but I wonder if there's a better way.


AFAIK, this is the normal way. And deleting a page is just removing its 
contents.


JMarc

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:50 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 wrote:
> Le 14/02/2013 06:25, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :
>
>> I made the change. The title is still MWE because I don't know how to
>> move a page. I could just cut/paste all of the info to a new page
>> "MinimumExample" but I wonder if there's a better way.
>
>
> AFAIK, this is the normal way. And deleting a page is just removing its
> contents.

Done. But I could not delete the other page. I put category "deleteme".

Scott

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:50 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
>  wrote:
> > Le 14/02/2013 06:25, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :
> >
> >> I made the change. The title is still MWE because I don't know how to
> >> move a page. I could just cut/paste all of the info to a new page
> >> "MinimumExample" but I wonder if there's a better way.
> >
> >
> > AFAIK, this is the normal way. And deleting a page is just removing its
> > contents.
> 
> Done. But I could not delete the other page. I put category "deleteme".

IIRC you have to put "delete" as the whole content of the page.
Pavel

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Pavel Sanda  wrote:
> Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:50 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
>>  wrote:
>> > Le 14/02/2013 06:25, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :
>> >
>> >> I made the change. The title is still MWE because I don't know how to
>> >> move a page. I could just cut/paste all of the info to a new page
>> >> "MinimumExample" but I wonder if there's a better way.
>> >
>> >
>> > AFAIK, this is the normal way. And deleting a page is just removing its
>> > contents.
>>
>> Done. But I could not delete the other page. I put category "deleteme".
>
> IIRC you have to put "delete" as the whole content of the page.
> Pavel

YRC.

Thanks,

Scott

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 13/02/2013 06:48, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote:

On 2013-02-09, Pavel Sanda wrote:

Scott Kostyshak wrote:

I would like to make a page on the wiki regarding making MWEs for LyX.



It may be good idea to put it in Trac FAQ or around?


In my view, this should become part of the official LyX documentation,
linked from the list netiquette http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists#toc7
and the Trac FAQ (and, maybe other places).

Günter


I posted it here: http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE

Please make any links that are appropriate.


I am late in the game, but observations nevertheless:

1/ this page is targeted at not-technical users, but uses a lot this MWE 
jargon. Wouldn't it be better to use the phrase 'minimal example' 
everywhere and drop the acronym?


2/ this could be merged in a slightly larger 'Reporting a bug' document 
that ecould find a place in the Help menu.


JMarc

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-02-13, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 Le 13/02/2013 06:48, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :
 On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote:
 On 2013-02-09, Pavel Sanda wrote:
 Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 I would like to make a page on the wiki regarding making MWEs for LyX.

 It may be good idea to put it in Trac FAQ or around?

 In my view, this should become part of the official LyX documentation,
 linked from the list netiquette http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists#toc7
 and the Trac FAQ (and, maybe other places).

 Günter

 I posted it here: http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE

 Please make any links that are appropriate.

 I am late in the game, but observations nevertheless:

 1/ this page is targeted at not-technical users, but uses a lot this MWE 
 jargon. Wouldn't it be better to use the phrase 'minimal example' 
 everywhere and drop the acronym?

Yes.

 2/ this could be merged in a slightly larger 'Reporting a bug' document 
 that ecould find a place in the Help menu.

Actually, it is for both, asking for help with a problem (not necessarily a
bug) on the list and reporting a bug. This is why I propose a separate page
with links from mail-list and tracker introcution pages.

Günter

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote:
 On 2013-02-13, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 Le 13/02/2013 06:48, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :
 On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote:
 On 2013-02-09, Pavel Sanda wrote:
 Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 I would like to make a page on the wiki regarding making MWEs for LyX.

 It may be good idea to put it in Trac FAQ or around?

 In my view, this should become part of the official LyX documentation,
 linked from the list netiquette http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists#toc7
 and the Trac FAQ (and, maybe other places).

 Günter

 I posted it here: http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE

 Please make any links that are appropriate.

 I am late in the game, but observations nevertheless:

 1/ this page is targeted at not-technical users, but uses a lot this MWE
 jargon. Wouldn't it be better to use the phrase 'minimal example'
 everywhere and drop the acronym?

 Yes.

Good point. It wasn't too long ago that MWE would have sounded very
scary to me.

I will change this soon (or anyone else can if they want to). In this
case it probably still makes sense to add something like this is
often referred to as an MWE (a Minimum Working Example) in case
someone mentions this (or I mistakenly use this term). I'll get rid of
MWE everywhere else.

Thanks for the comments,

Scott

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:22 AM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote:
 On 2013-02-13, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 Le 13/02/2013 06:48, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :
 On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote:
 On 2013-02-09, Pavel Sanda wrote:
 Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 I would like to make a page on the wiki regarding making MWEs for LyX.

 It may be good idea to put it in Trac FAQ or around?

 In my view, this should become part of the official LyX documentation,
 linked from the list netiquette http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists#toc7
 and the Trac FAQ (and, maybe other places).

 Günter

 I posted it here: http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE

 Please make any links that are appropriate.

 I am late in the game, but observations nevertheless:

 1/ this page is targeted at not-technical users, but uses a lot this MWE
 jargon. Wouldn't it be better to use the phrase 'minimal example'
 everywhere and drop the acronym?

 Yes.

 Good point. It wasn't too long ago that MWE would have sounded very
 scary to me.

 I will change this soon (or anyone else can if they want to). In this
 case it probably still makes sense to add something like this is
 often referred to as an MWE (a Minimum Working Example) in case
 someone mentions this (or I mistakenly use this term). I'll get rid of
 MWE everywhere else.

I made the change. The title is still MWE because I don't know how to
move a page. I could just cut/paste all of the info to a new page
MinimumExample but I wonder if there's a better way.

Scott

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 13/02/2013 06:48, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Guenter Milde  wrote:

On 2013-02-09, Pavel Sanda wrote:

Scott Kostyshak wrote:

I would like to make a page on the wiki regarding making MWEs for LyX.



It may be good idea to put it in Trac FAQ or around?


In my view, this should become part of the "official" LyX documentation,
linked from the "list netiquette" http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists#toc7
and the Trac FAQ (and, maybe other places).

Günter


I posted it here: http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE

Please make any links that are appropriate.


I am late in the game, but observations nevertheless:

1/ this page is targeted at not-technical users, but uses a lot this MWE 
jargon. Wouldn't it be better to use the phrase 'minimal example' 
everywhere and drop the acronym?


2/ this could be merged in a slightly larger 'Reporting a bug' document 
that ecould find a place in the Help menu.


JMarc

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-02-13, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Le 13/02/2013 06:48, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :
>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Guenter Milde  wrote:
>>> On 2013-02-09, Pavel Sanda wrote:
 Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> I would like to make a page on the wiki regarding making MWEs for LyX.

 It may be good idea to put it in Trac FAQ or around?

>>> In my view, this should become part of the "official" LyX documentation,
>>> linked from the "list netiquette" http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists#toc7
>>> and the Trac FAQ (and, maybe other places).

>>> Günter

>> I posted it here: http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE

>> Please make any links that are appropriate.

> I am late in the game, but observations nevertheless:

> 1/ this page is targeted at not-technical users, but uses a lot this MWE 
> jargon. Wouldn't it be better to use the phrase 'minimal example' 
> everywhere and drop the acronym?

Yes.

> 2/ this could be merged in a slightly larger 'Reporting a bug' document 
> that ecould find a place in the Help menu.

Actually, it is for both, asking for help with a problem (not necessarily a
bug) on the list and reporting a bug. This is why I propose a separate page
with links from mail-list and tracker introcution pages.

Günter

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Guenter Milde  wrote:
> On 2013-02-13, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>> Le 13/02/2013 06:48, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :
>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Guenter Milde  wrote:
 On 2013-02-09, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>> I would like to make a page on the wiki regarding making MWEs for LyX.
>
> It may be good idea to put it in Trac FAQ or around?
>
 In my view, this should become part of the "official" LyX documentation,
 linked from the "list netiquette" http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists#toc7
 and the Trac FAQ (and, maybe other places).
>
 Günter
>
>>> I posted it here: http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE
>
>>> Please make any links that are appropriate.
>
>> I am late in the game, but observations nevertheless:
>
>> 1/ this page is targeted at not-technical users, but uses a lot this MWE
>> jargon. Wouldn't it be better to use the phrase 'minimal example'
>> everywhere and drop the acronym?
>
> Yes.

Good point. It wasn't too long ago that "MWE" would have sounded very
scary to me.

I will change this soon (or anyone else can if they want to). In this
case it probably still makes sense to add something like "this is
often referred to as an MWE (a Minimum Working Example)" in case
someone mentions this (or I mistakenly use this term). I'll get rid of
"MWE" everywhere else.

Thanks for the comments,

Scott

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:22 AM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Guenter Milde  wrote:
>> On 2013-02-13, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>>> Le 13/02/2013 06:48, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :
 On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Guenter Milde  wrote:
> On 2013-02-09, Pavel Sanda wrote:
>> Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>>> I would like to make a page on the wiki regarding making MWEs for LyX.
>>
>> It may be good idea to put it in Trac FAQ or around?
>>
> In my view, this should become part of the "official" LyX documentation,
> linked from the "list netiquette" http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists#toc7
> and the Trac FAQ (and, maybe other places).
>>
> Günter
>>
 I posted it here: http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE
>>
 Please make any links that are appropriate.
>>
>>> I am late in the game, but observations nevertheless:
>>
>>> 1/ this page is targeted at not-technical users, but uses a lot this MWE
>>> jargon. Wouldn't it be better to use the phrase 'minimal example'
>>> everywhere and drop the acronym?
>>
>> Yes.
>
> Good point. It wasn't too long ago that "MWE" would have sounded very
> scary to me.
>
> I will change this soon (or anyone else can if they want to). In this
> case it probably still makes sense to add something like "this is
> often referred to as an MWE (a Minimum Working Example)" in case
> someone mentions this (or I mistakenly use this term). I'll get rid of
> "MWE" everywhere else.

I made the change. The title is still MWE because I don't know how to
move a page. I could just cut/paste all of the info to a new page
"MinimumExample" but I wonder if there's a better way.

Scott

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote:
 On 2013-02-09, Pavel Sanda wrote:
 Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 I would like to make a page on the wiki regarding making MWEs for LyX.

 It may be good idea to put it in Trac FAQ or around?

 In my view, this should become part of the official LyX documentation,
 linked from the list netiquette http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists#toc7
 and the Trac FAQ (and, maybe other places).

 Günter

I posted it here: http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE

Please make any links that are appropriate.

Thanks,

Scott

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Guenter Milde  wrote:
> On 2013-02-09, Pavel Sanda wrote:
>> Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>>> I would like to make a page on the wiki regarding making MWEs for LyX.
>
>> It may be good idea to put it in Trac FAQ or around?
>
> In my view, this should become part of the "official" LyX documentation,
> linked from the "list netiquette" http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists#toc7
> and the Trac FAQ (and, maybe other places).
>
> Günter

I posted it here: http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE

Please make any links that are appropriate.

Thanks,

Scott

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Kornel Benko]

Am Freitag, 8. Februar 2013 um 20:44:50, schrieb Scott Kostyshak 
skost...@lyx.org
 I would like to make a page on the wiki regarding making MWEs for LyX.
 I am checking in here because I would like to make sure that none of
 my personal opinions makes it into the page. I would also appreciate
 any comments.
 
 My motivation for creating this page and for asking users to provide
 MWEs is that I think a lot of time is lost because of the lack of
 MWEs. Also, I think that some questions go unanswered because of the
 user not sending an MWE. By encouraging users to post MWEs, I think
 that time will be better spent, more questions will be answered, and
 it's easier (for developers or users) to turn these types of emails
 into useful bug reports.
 
 I do not want users to have to read a lot before understanding what an
 MWE is so I try to give brief advice and then after that give a more
 complete treatment of MWEs in a LyX context.
 
 begin proposed wiki text
 
 title: How to create a Minimum Working Example (MWE) for LyX
 
 #In a nutshell
 
 An MWE is a .lyx file that is as small as possible while still showing
 the behavior that you are asking about. It should include as few
 dependencies as possible -- remove any unnecessary pictures and
 external files. It should be possible for someone to download your
 .lyx file and without modification see the same behavior that you are
 seeing.
 
 Below is more information on how and why to create MWEs.
 
 
 
 #Why create an MWE?
 - MWEs make it easier for people to see the problem you are talking
 about and thus easier for them to propose solutions.
 
 - If 5 people download your .lyx file trying to help and spend 5
 minutes removing the graphics you included and cleaning the LaTeX
 preamble that is not necessary, then that's 25 minutes of wasted time
 instead of the 5 minutes that you could spend doing that. By sending
 an MWE, you can make it as easy as possible for someone to help you.
 
 - It takes time and effort. How is this a good thing? If you show that
 you are willing to spend time to solve your own problem, this makes it
 more likely that someone else will want to spend his/her time to help
 you with your problem.
 
 
 
 #How to create an MWE?
 - Remove as much as possible from your .lyx file while still making
 sure it shows the behavior you are reporting.
  -- The preamble should not have anything except what's needed to
 reproduce the bug (further, it's helpful if you specify that without
 something in the preamble the problem in question goes away).
  -- Document settings should not have anything special unless it's
 needed to reproduce the bug. For example, if you can reproduce the
 behavior by using the document class Article (Standard Class)
 instead of a less common document class, please do so.
 
 - If the example requires external files, make sure they're included
 in your email or trac ticket.
 
 - Use relative paths if you need to include external files. Further,
 relative paths should work when all files are put/uncompressed to the
 same folder. That is, ../../Dropbox/MyLyXstuff/picture.jpg is
 relative but bad; ./picture.jpg is good.
 
 - Test your MWE. Just before you send it, copy the MWE files to a
 different folder. See if things compile fine. Make sure that the
 output still shows the problem you're seeing.
 
 
 
 #In addition to the MWE
 It is useful if you attach more files in addition to the MWE, such as
 your pdf output (or your log from your attempt to produce a PDF
 output). Sometimes it's not obvious if the output shows the problem or
 not (e.g. if it requires a foreign language that the person trying to
 help does not know how to read).
 
 
 
 #FAQ
 I cannot create an MWE. Whenever I remove something, my problem goes
 away. What should I do?
 - Technically, this is still a MWE, just a large one! If you do not
 want to post a personal .lyx file, state in your email if you would be
 willing to send this file privately.
 - Even if you cannot create an MWE or you cannot send it, the fact
 that you cannot create an MWE is useful information. It not only gives
 information about the possible bug that you are seeing but it also
 shows that you made an effort.
 
 end proposed wiki text
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Best,
 
 Scott

I like it.

Kornel

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Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 I would like to make a page on the wiki regarding making MWEs for LyX.

It may be good idea to put it in Trac FAQ or around?
Pavel

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-02-09, Pavel Sanda wrote:
 Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 I would like to make a page on the wiki regarding making MWEs for LyX.

 It may be good idea to put it in Trac FAQ or around?

In my view, this should become part of the official LyX documentation,
linked from the list netiquette http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists#toc7
and the Trac FAQ (and, maybe other places).

Günter

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Kornel Benko]

Am Freitag, 8. Februar 2013 um 20:44:50, schrieb Scott Kostyshak 

> I would like to make a page on the wiki regarding making MWEs for LyX.
> I am checking in here because I would like to make sure that none of
> my personal opinions makes it into the page. I would also appreciate
> any comments.
> 
> My motivation for creating this page and for asking users to provide
> MWEs is that I think a lot of time is lost because of the lack of
> MWEs. Also, I think that some questions go unanswered because of the
> user not sending an MWE. By encouraging users to post MWEs, I think
> that time will be better spent, more questions will be answered, and
> it's easier (for developers or users) to turn these types of emails
> into useful bug reports.
> 
> I do not want users to have to read a lot before understanding what an
> MWE is so I try to give brief advice and then after that give a more
> complete treatment of MWEs in a LyX context.
> 
> <>
> 
> title: How to create a Minimum Working Example (MWE) for LyX
> 
> #In a nutshell
> 
> An MWE is a .lyx file that is as small as possible while still showing
> the behavior that you are asking about. It should include as few
> dependencies as possible -- remove any unnecessary pictures and
> external files. It should be possible for someone to download your
> .lyx file and without modification see the same behavior that you are
> seeing.
> 
> Below is more information on how and why to create MWEs.
> 
> 
> 
> #Why create an MWE?
> - MWEs make it easier for people to see the problem you are talking
> about and thus easier for them to propose solutions.
> 
> - If 5 people download your .lyx file trying to help and spend 5
> minutes removing the graphics you included and cleaning the LaTeX
> preamble that is not necessary, then that's 25 minutes of wasted time
> instead of the 5 minutes that you could spend doing that. By sending
> an MWE, you can make it as easy as possible for someone to help you.
> 
> - It takes time and effort. How is this a good thing? If you show that
> you are willing to spend time to solve your own problem, this makes it
> more likely that someone else will want to spend his/her time to help
> you with your problem.
> 
> 
> 
> #How to create an MWE?
> - Remove as much as possible from your .lyx file while still making
> sure it shows the behavior you are reporting.
>  -- The preamble should not have anything except what's needed to
> reproduce the bug (further, it's helpful if you specify that without
> something in the preamble the problem in question goes away).
>  -- Document settings should not have anything special unless it's
> needed to reproduce the bug. For example, if you can reproduce the
> behavior by using the document class "Article (Standard Class)"
> instead of a less common document class, please do so.
> 
> - If the example requires external files, make sure they're included
> in your email or trac ticket.
> 
> - Use relative paths if you need to include external files. Further,
> relative paths should work when all files are put/uncompressed to the
> same folder. That is, "../../Dropbox/MyLyXstuff/picture.jpg" is
> relative but bad; "./picture.jpg" is good.
> 
> - Test your MWE. Just before you send it, copy the MWE files to a
> different folder. See if things compile fine. Make sure that the
> output still shows the problem you're seeing.
> 
> 
> 
> #In addition to the MWE
> It is useful if you attach more files in addition to the MWE, such as
> your pdf output (or your log from your attempt to produce a PDF
> output). Sometimes it's not obvious if the output shows the problem or
> not (e.g. if it requires a foreign language that the person trying to
> help does not know how to read).
> 
> 
> 
> #FAQ
> I cannot create an MWE. Whenever I remove something, my problem goes
> away. What should I do?
> - Technically, this is still a MWE, just a large one! If you do not
> want to post a personal .lyx file, state in your email if you would be
> willing to send this file privately.
> - Even if you cannot create an MWE or you cannot send it, the fact
> that you cannot create an MWE is useful information. It not only gives
> information about the possible bug that you are seeing but it also
> shows that you made an effort.
> 
> <>
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Scott

I like it.

Kornel

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Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> I would like to make a page on the wiki regarding making MWEs for LyX.

It may be good idea to put it in Trac FAQ or around?
Pavel

Re: Wiki page for MWEs for LyX

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-02-09, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>> I would like to make a page on the wiki regarding making MWEs for LyX.

> It may be good idea to put it in Trac FAQ or around?

In my view, this should become part of the "official" LyX documentation,
linked from the "list netiquette" http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists#toc7
and the Trac FAQ (and, maybe other places).

Günter

Re: wiki problem

[Richard Heck]

On 08/12/2012 02:55 PM, Jack Tanner wrote:

On wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Manuals I get:

Deprecated: Function eregi() is deprecated in
/home/lyx/www/wiki.lyx.org/farm.d/cookbook/uploadlist.php

Maybe PHP got upgraded there?

I've seen this error a lot in the logs. I think the version of pmwiki 
we're using is old. Can you report this as a bug on trac?


Richard

Re: wiki problem

[Jack Tanner]

Richard Heck rgheck at lyx.org writes:

 I've seen this error a lot in the logs. I think the version of pmwiki 
 we're using is old. Can you report this as a bug on trac?

Ticket #8298

Re: wiki problem

[Richard Heck]

On 08/13/2012 05:51 PM, Jack Tanner wrote:

Richard Heck rgheck at lyx.org writes:


I've seen this error a lot in the logs. I think the version of pmwiki
we're using is old. Can you report this as a bug on trac?

Ticket #8298

Thanks.

rh

Re: wiki problem

[Richard Heck]

On 08/12/2012 02:55 PM, Jack Tanner wrote:

On wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Manuals I get:

Deprecated: Function eregi() is deprecated in
/home/lyx/www/wiki.lyx.org/farm.d/cookbook/uploadlist.php

Maybe PHP got upgraded there?

I've seen this error a lot in the logs. I think the version of pmwiki 
we're using is old. Can you report this as a bug on trac?


Richard

Re: wiki problem

[Jack Tanner]

Richard Heck  lyx.org> writes:

> I've seen this error a lot in the logs. I think the version of pmwiki 
> we're using is old. Can you report this as a bug on trac?

Ticket #8298

Re: wiki problem

[Richard Heck]

On 08/13/2012 05:51 PM, Jack Tanner wrote:

Richard Heck  lyx.org> writes:


I've seen this error a lot in the logs. I think the version of pmwiki
we're using is old. Can you report this as a bug on trac?

Ticket #8298

Thanks.

rh

Re: Wiki page editing

[Pavel Sanda]

Andrew Parsloe wrote:
 When I click on Upload on the Wiki home page (http://wiki.lyx.org/), I get 
 only a blank page (http://wiki.lyx.org/ipfm/index.php?dir=/) in Firefox. 
 This is an advance on how things were a few weeks ago, when Firefox would 
 respond after a while with an error message, but is clearly not right.

We are aware of this problem, but it seems to be hard to fix.

Pavel

Re: Wiki page editing

[Pavel Sanda]

Andrew Parsloe wrote:
> When I click on Upload on the Wiki home page (http://wiki.lyx.org/), I get 
> only a blank page (http://wiki.lyx.org/ipfm/index.php?dir=/) in Firefox. 
> This is an advance on how things were a few weeks ago, when Firefox would 
> respond after a while with an error message, but is clearly not right.

We are aware of this problem, but it seems to be hard to fix.

Pavel

Re: Wiki page editing

[Andrew Parsloe]

On 2/04/2012 11:05 p.m., Pavel Sanda wrote:

Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:

Hello,

I'm willing to edit the web pages after 2.0.3 is out, but now when I try to
login nothing happens.


Please try now and report if something does not work.
Pavel



When I click on Upload on the Wiki home page (http://wiki.lyx.org/), I 
get only a blank page (http://wiki.lyx.org/ipfm/index.php?dir=/) in 
Firefox. This is an advance on how things were a few weeks ago, when 
Firefox would respond after a while with an error message, but is 
clearly not right.


Andrew Parsloe

Re: Wiki page editing

[Andrew Parsloe]

On 2/04/2012 11:05 p.m., Pavel Sanda wrote:

Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:

Hello,

I'm willing to edit the web pages after 2.0.3 is out, but now when I try to
login nothing happens.


Please try now and report if something does not work.
Pavel



When I click on Upload on the Wiki home page (http://wiki.lyx.org/), I 
get only a blank page (http://wiki.lyx.org/ipfm/index.php?dir=/) in 
Firefox. This is an advance on how things were a few weeks ago, when 
Firefox would respond after a while with an error message, but is 
clearly not right.


Andrew Parsloe

Re: Wiki page editing

[Pavel Sanda]

Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm willing to edit the web pages after 2.0.3 is out, but now when I try to
 login nothing happens.

Please try now and report if something does not work.
Pavel

Re: Wiki page editing

[Pavel Sanda]

Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm willing to edit the web pages after 2.0.3 is out, but now when I try to
> login nothing happens.

Please try now and report if something does not work.
Pavel

Re: Wiki page editing

[Jean-Pierre Chrétien]

Le 21/03/2012 17:40, Richard Heck a écrit :

On 03/21/2012 11:09 AM, Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:

Pavel Sandasandaat lyx.org writes:



No, its broken. Christian is slowly trying to recover. Pavel


Ok, I will wait then. Does he need help ? I'm running pmwikis for my
personal
needs (after seeing lyx wiki features :-)


Apparently, the problem is that the version of pmwiki we have doesn't
like the version of PHP we have. So the former needs to be upgraded. I
think Christian was hoping to get to it this weekend.


I had this one once, if the problem is that you have php5, I remember setting 
the name of the index.php file to index.php5 solved the problem... But as the 
site works, I guess that it is not so simple...


--
Jean-Pierre

Re: Wiki page editing

[Jean-Pierre Chrétien]

Le 21/03/2012 17:40, Richard Heck a écrit :

On 03/21/2012 11:09 AM, Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:

Pavel Sanda writes:



No, its broken. Christian is slowly trying to recover. Pavel


Ok, I will wait then. Does he need help ? I'm running pmwikis for my
personal
needs (after seeing lyx wiki features :-)


Apparently, the problem is that the version of pmwiki we have doesn't
like the version of PHP we have. So the former needs to be upgraded. I
think Christian was hoping to get to it this weekend.


I had this one once, if the problem is that you have php5, I remember setting 
the name of the index.php file to index.php5 solved the problem... But as the 
site works, I guess that it is not so simple...


--
Jean-Pierre

Re: Wiki page editing

[Pavel Sanda]

Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm willing to edit the web pages after 2.0.3 is out, but now when I try to
 login nothing happens.
 Has the password been changed ?

No, its broken. Christian is slowly trying to recover. Pavel

Re: Wiki page editing

[Jean-Pierre Chrétien]

Pavel Sanda sanda at lyx.org writes:


 
 No, its broken. Christian is slowly trying to recover. Pavel
 

Ok, I will wait then. Does he need help ? I'm running pmwikis for my personal
needs (after seeing lyx wiki features :-)

-- 
Jean-Pierre

Re: Wiki page editing

[Richard Heck]

On 03/21/2012 11:09 AM, Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:

Pavel Sandasandaat  lyx.org  writes:



No, its broken. Christian is slowly trying to recover. Pavel


Ok, I will wait then. Does he need help ? I'm running pmwikis for my personal
needs (after seeing lyx wiki features :-)

Apparently, the problem is that the version of pmwiki we have doesn't 
like the version of PHP we have. So the former needs to be upgraded. I 
think Christian was hoping to get to it this weekend.


Richard

Re: Wiki page editing

[Pavel Sanda]

Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm willing to edit the web pages after 2.0.3 is out, but now when I try to
> login nothing happens.
> Has the password been changed ?

No, its broken. Christian is slowly trying to recover. Pavel

Re: Wiki page editing

[Jean-Pierre Chrétien]

Pavel Sanda  lyx.org> writes:


> 
> No, its broken. Christian is slowly trying to recover. Pavel
> 

Ok, I will wait then. Does he need help ? I'm running pmwikis for my personal
needs (after seeing lyx wiki features :-)

-- 
Jean-Pierre

Re: Wiki page editing

[Richard Heck]

On 03/21/2012 11:09 AM, Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:

Pavel Sanda  writes:



No, its broken. Christian is slowly trying to recover. Pavel


Ok, I will wait then. Does he need help ? I'm running pmwikis for my personal
needs (after seeing lyx wiki features :-)

Apparently, the problem is that the version of pmwiki we have doesn't 
like the version of PHP we have. So the former needs to be upgraded. I 
think Christian was hoping to get to it this weekend.


Richard

Re: Wiki upload password

[Pavel Sanda]

venom00 wrote:
 I need the IPFM [1] password to upload my slides about LyX (do you remember 
 the conference I had in Feb?).
 Do you think I should create a wiki page like LyXEvangelism as someone 
 suggested at that time or simply drop them In LyX/Tutorials [2]?

sent privately. p

Re: Wiki upload password

[Pavel Sanda]

venom00 wrote:
> I need the IPFM [1] password to upload my slides about LyX (do you remember 
> the conference I had in Feb?).
> Do you think I should create a wiki page like LyXEvangelism as someone 
> suggested at that time or simply drop them In LyX/Tutorials [2]?

sent privately. p

Re: wiki pass

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

 Op 10-3-2011 21:22, stefano franchi schreef:
Could somebody send me a password for the wiki, so I can bless the 
links for the 2011 Summer of code page?


Thx,

Stefano


Sent privately.

Vincent

Re: wiki pass

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

 Op 10-3-2011 21:22, stefano franchi schreef:
Could somebody send me a password for the wiki, so I can bless the 
links for the 2011 Summer of code page?


Thx,

Stefano


Sent privately.

Vincent

Re: Wiki Approve URL Password

[Pavel Sanda]

Kristle Chester wrote:
 Would someone please email me the wiki approve url password so I can
 approve the link for sffms lyx layouts on github? Thanks.

sent privately
p

Re: Wiki Approve URL Password

[Pavel Sanda]

Kristle Chester wrote:
> Would someone please email me the wiki approve url password so I can
> approve the link for sffms lyx layouts on github? Thanks.

sent privately
p

Re: [wiki] approve site password

[Pavel Sanda]

Sven Hoexter wrote:
 I would appreciate it if someone would sent me the wiki password required
 to approve new links. Alternatively someone could just approve the changes
 made on http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian

sent privately. p

Re: [wiki] approve site password

[Pavel Sanda]

Sven Hoexter wrote:
> I would appreciate it if someone would sent me the wiki password required
> to approve new links. Alternatively someone could just approve the changes
> made on http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian

sent privately. p

Re: Wiki password

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Joost Verburg wrote:
 Could someone send me the password for editing protected pages on the wiki?

Done.

Jürgen

Re: Wiki password

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Joost Verburg wrote:
> Could someone send me the password for editing protected pages on the wiki?

Done.

Jürgen

Re: Wiki request

[Christian Ridderström]

 * Finally, if you have shell access to the server, modify the file:
...
 If you don't have access, just tell me.

Hi Pavel,

I was unclear,. If you don't have access, I suggested that you tell me
the name of the page to which you have added a password, so that I
could then add that name to the list of pages in the file password.txt
on the server :-)

However, instead of maintaining a list of protected wiki pages in a
file on the server, I've moved the list to the following wiki page:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Site/PasswordProtected

So after you protect a page, by going to the URI + 'action=attr', then
just add the name of the page to the wiki page Site.PasswordProtected.

So the current procedure to protect a page is as follows:

* Go the page in question, but append 'action=attr' to be able to set
the edit password
* Go to http://wiki.lyx.org/Site/PasswordProtected and add the
name of the page to the list of protected pages.

In addition, I'd recommend announcing on e.g. the developers' list
that you proteced the page.

Please note that in order to protect the page, and to add the name of
the page to PasswordProtected, you need to know the password.  If you
don't, then ask on the users' or developers' list.

/Christian

Re: Wiki request

[Pavel Sanda]

Christian Ridderström wrote:
  * Finally, if you have shell access to the server, modify the file:
 ...
  If you don't have access, just tell me.
 
 Hi Pavel,
 
 I was unclear,. If you don't have access, I suggested that you tell me
 the name of the page to which you have added a password, so that I
 could then add that name to the list of pages in the file password.txt
 on the server :-)

no problem :) ... now what about the cron job which regenerates doxygen
docs every week? :)

pavel

Re: Wiki request

[Christian Ridderström]

>> * Finally, if you have shell access to the server, modify the file:
...
>> If you don't have access, just tell me.

Hi Pavel,

I was unclear,. If you don't have access, I suggested that you tell me
the name of the page to which you have added a password, so that I
could then add that name to the list of pages in the file password.txt
on the server :-)

However, instead of maintaining a list of protected wiki pages in a
file on the server, I've moved the list to the following wiki page:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Site/PasswordProtected

So after you protect a page, by going to the URI + 'action=attr', then
just add the name of the page to the wiki page Site.PasswordProtected.

So the current procedure to protect a page is as follows:

* Go the page in question, but append 'action=attr' to be able to set
the edit password
* Go to http://wiki.lyx.org/Site/PasswordProtected and add the
name of the page to the list of protected pages.

In addition, I'd recommend announcing on e.g. the developers' list
that you proteced the page.

Please note that in order to protect the page, and to add the name of
the page to PasswordProtected, you need to know the password.  If you
don't, then ask on the users' or developers' list.

/Christian

Re: Wiki request

[Pavel Sanda]

Christian Ridderström wrote:
> >> * Finally, if you have shell access to the server, modify the file:
> ...
> >> If you don't have access, just tell me.
> 
> Hi Pavel,
> 
> I was unclear,. If you don't have access, I suggested that you tell me
> the name of the page to which you have added a password, so that I
> could then add that name to the list of pages in the file password.txt
> on the server :-)

no problem :) ... now what about the cron job which regenerates doxygen
docs every week? :)

pavel

Re: Wiki request

[Christian Ridderström]

It's done now.

In order to protect a page from editing with a password, you do as follows:

* Go to the page, with '?action=attr' appended to the URL, e.g.

   http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts.SongbookInstall?action=attr

  Then you'll see fields where you can set a password,
  and in this case we want to set the password for 'edit'.
  Set the password to the same password we use for other
  protected pages.

* Finally, if you have shell access to the server, modify the file:

  /home/lyx/www/wiki.lyx.org/passwords.txt

  and add the name of the page that you just protected to the list
  of pages that are protected.

If you don't have access, just tell me.

If you don't know what password to set, ask me or on the list.

At the moment we have the drawback we can't change the password in one
place and have that change reflected on every page. This could be
implemented, but then it'd not be possible for someone without shell
access to protect pages.

Greetings to everyone!
/Christian


On 13 February 2010 13:46, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:
 Christian,
 can you protect by paswword this page:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts.SongbookInstall
 its under chronical spamming.
 pavel

Re: Wiki request

[Christian Ridderström]

It's done now.

In order to protect a page from editing with a password, you do as follows:

* Go to the page, with '?action=attr' appended to the URL, e.g.

   http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts.SongbookInstall?action=attr

  Then you'll see fields where you can set a password,
  and in this case we want to set the password for 'edit'.
  Set the password to the same password we use for other
  protected pages.

* Finally, if you have shell access to the server, modify the file:

  /home/lyx/www/wiki.lyx.org/passwords.txt

  and add the name of the page that you just protected to the list
  of pages that are protected.

If you don't have access, just tell me.

If you don't know what password to set, ask me or on the list.

At the moment we have the drawback we can't change the password in one
place and have that change reflected on every page. This could be
implemented, but then it'd not be possible for someone without shell
access to protect pages.

Greetings to everyone!
/Christian


On 13 February 2010 13:46, Pavel Sanda  wrote:
> Christian,
> can you protect by paswword this page:
> http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts.SongbookInstall
> its under chronical spamming.
> pavel
>