Re: Update: polyglossia in 2.2.3

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 03:16:07PM +0200, N. Andrew Walsh wrote:

> > > Could you also post the LaTeX export (to LaTeX (XeTeX)) of this MWE?
> >
> > Andrew, I just wanted to make sure you saw the above message.
> >
> Yes, I saw. I'm copied on the bug report, and have since submitted several
> updates. There's a patch on the bug report that should resolve the issue
> (and is going into 2.3.0) that resolves it for other users.

Ah great! Thanks for your response,

Scott

Re: Update: polyglossia in 2.2.3

[N. Andrew Walsh]

Hi Scott,

thank you for your message.

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:08 AM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:

> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:35:09PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> > Am Freitag, den 26.05.2017, 12:23 +0200 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
> >
> > > Or rather, the file will compile with 2.2.2, but not with 2.2.3
> > > (giving back the error about deleting a closing bracket as previously
> > > described).
> >
> > You mean 2.2.3 not 2.3alpha, right? In any case, the file compiles fine
> > for me both with recent stable (what will become 2.2.4) and master
> > (what will become 2.3.0).
> >
> > Could you also post the LaTeX export (to LaTeX (XeTeX)) of this MWE?
>
> Andrew, I just wanted to make sure you saw the above message.
>
Yes, I saw. I'm copied on the bug report, and have since submitted several
updates. There's a patch on the bug report that should resolve the issue
(and is going into 2.3.0) that resolves it for other users.

Thanks for keeping me informed.

Sincerely,

Andrew

Re: Update: polyglossia in 2.2.3

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:35:09PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Am Freitag, den 26.05.2017, 12:23 +0200 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
> 
> > Or rather, the file will compile with 2.2.2, but not with 2.2.3
> > (giving back the error about deleting a closing bracket as previously
> > described).
> 
> You mean 2.2.3 not 2.3alpha, right? In any case, the file compiles fine
> for me both with recent stable (what will become 2.2.4) and master
> (what will become 2.3.0).
> 
> Could you also post the LaTeX export (to LaTeX (XeTeX)) of this MWE?

Andrew, I just wanted to make sure you saw the above message.

Scott


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Re: Update: polyglossia in 2.2.3

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag, den 26.05.2017, 14:40 +0200 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
> Hi Jürgen,
> 
> thanks for getting back to me.
> 
> The relevant settings are as follows:
> 
> Language Package: [none]
> Command Start: \begin{$$lang}
> Command End: \end{$$lang}

OK, please create a bug report where you upload your example file and
give these informations. This is not the default setting, but it should
nevertheless work.

In the meantime, reverting to the defaults will probably fix the issue
for you. That is

Command Start: \selectlanguage{$$lang}
Command End: [nothing]

HTH
Jürgen

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Re: Update: polyglossia in 2.2.3

[N. Andrew Walsh]

Hi Jürgen,

thanks for getting back to me.

The relevant settings are as follows:

Language Package: [none]
Command Start: \begin{$$lang}
Command End: \end{$$lang}

All four options below the "Default length unit" dropdown are checked, and
cursor movement is set to "logical."

It's possible that these are settings I put in earlier, when using
polyglossia, biblatex, biber, and xetex caused issues.

Anyway, thanks for the help.

Cheers,

Andrew

Re: Update: polyglossia in 2.2.3

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag, den 26.05.2017, 13:50 +0200 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
> ach, whoops. I forgot to add that. Thanks for the reminder. Here
> attached is the (XeTeX-produced) LaTeX output from 2.2.3.

Thanks. Interesting. I see the problem, but cannot reproduce here. I
would have thought that this was fixed for LyX 2.2.3 (bug 9633). Do you
have any specific settings in Tools > Preferences > Language Settings >
Language? Particularly, what are your settings for

* Language Package

* Command start

* Command end

Best,
Jürgen

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Andrew

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Re: Update: polyglossia in 2.2.3

[N. Andrew Walsh]

Hi Jürgen,

ach, whoops. I forgot to add that. Thanks for the reminder. Here attached
is the (XeTeX-produced) LaTeX output from 2.2.3.

Cheers,

Andrew


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Re: Update: polyglossia in 2.2.3

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag, den 26.05.2017, 12:55 +0200 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
> thanks again. Yes, this is version 2.2.3, as released by gentoo Linux
> (if latest stable is already 2.2.4, then they seem to be a bit behind
> with their versions; or has 2.2.4 not yet been officially released?).

No. 2.2.4 will be the next release (we have just started to work on
that version).

> In any case, is this something for which I should submit a bug
> report?

If it's already fixed, this is not needed. However, I fail to see where
this would have been fixed since 2.2.3. So please can you post the
LaTeX export, as already asked?

Jürgen

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Re: Update: polyglossia in 2.2.3

[N. Andrew Walsh]

Hi Jürgen,

thanks again. Yes, this is version 2.2.3, as released by gentoo Linux (if
latest stable is already 2.2.4, then they seem to be a bit behind with
their versions; or has 2.2.4 not yet been officially released?).

In any case, is this something for which I should submit a bug report?

Cheers,

Andrew

Re: Update: polyglossia in 2.2.3

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag, den 26.05.2017, 12:23 +0200 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
> Hi Jürgen,
> 
> thanks for getting back to me. I'm attaching two files: the MWE
> polyglossiabreaker2.lyx, and the necessary bibtex file. Put both in
> the same directory, and it should work. 

Thanks.

> Or rather, the file will compile with 2.2.2, but not with 2.2.3
> (giving back the error about deleting a closing bracket as previously
> described).

You mean 2.2.3 not 2.3alpha, right? In any case, the file compiles fine
for me both with recent stable (what will become 2.2.4) and master
(what will become 2.3.0).

Could you also post the LaTeX export (to LaTeX (XeTeX)) of this MWE?

Jürgen

> 
> Thanks for your help,
> 
> Andrew

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Re: Update: polyglossia in 2.2.3

[N. Andrew Walsh]

Hi Jürgen,

thanks for getting back to me. I'm attaching two files: the MWE
polyglossiabreaker2.lyx, and the necessary bibtex file. Put both in the
same directory, and it should work.

Or rather, the file will compile with 2.2.2, but not with 2.2.3 (giving
back the error about deleting a closing bracket as previously described).

Thanks for your help,

Andrew


polyglossiabreaker2.lyx
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@Book{butcher1917poetics,
  Title= {The {P}oetics of {A}ristotle},
  Author   = {Butcher, Samuel H.},
  Publisher= {Macmillan},
  Year = {1917},

  Address  = {London}
}

Re: Update: polyglossia in 2.2.3

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Mittwoch, den 24.05.2017, 19:36 +0200 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
> in a \footnote block, if a block of text is both set to a different
> language (invoking a polyglossia language definition) and contained
> in a \quote block, the compiler will delete the last bracket of the
> footnote. This causes all subsequent \footnote invocations to fail,
> as they now appear as an attempt to insert a footnote within a
> footnote. Bigfoot returns an error for the same reason. 

See http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/10263#comment:18

Jürgen

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Re: Update: polyglossia in 2.2.3

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Mittwoch, den 24.05.2017, 19:36 +0200 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
> Dear List:
> 
> In regards to the previous question about footnotes, I have isolated
> the issue I'm having to the following:
> 
> in a \footnote block, if a block of text is both set to a different
> language (invoking a polyglossia language definition) and contained
> in a \quote block, the compiler will delete the last bracket of the
> footnote. This causes all subsequent \footnote invocations to fail,
> as they now appear as an attempt to insert a footnote within a
> footnote. Bigfoot returns an error for the same reason. 

Could you post a minimal example file, please?

> Furthermore, Lyx codes ancient Greek in the .lyx file differently
> than the polyglossia definition does. The preamble has the following:
> 
> \setotherlanguage[variant=ancient]{greek}
> 
> but within the .lyx file itself the following is used:
> 
> \lang ancientgreek

No, the LyX language name does not necessarily be equal to the
polyglossia (or babel) language name. If only for the reason that
polyglossia and babel names often differ as well.

> Might this also cause problems with polyglossia? Should I submit
> this/these as a bug?

Please post a file for the former problem first. It might be easy to
fix.

Thanks,
Jürgen

> 
> Lastly, the problems I'm having here do not occur with 2.2.2, so
> downgrading provides me with a workaround at present.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Andrew Walsh

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