Re: Problems with Chapter* style

2006-06-19 Thread Julio Rojas
On 6/19/06, Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julio Rojas wrote: Yup, that's a solution... Thanks a lot... But I guess if there isn't a better solution??? Probably. But in the time you wait (or search) for that, you probably have inserted the mentioned command easily. I thought

Re: Problems with Chapter* style

2006-06-19 Thread Julio Rojas
I did... I'm goint to print my work today thanks to that solution... But I'm curious about a more elegant solution... On 6/19/06, Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julio Rojas wrote: Yup, that's a solution... Thanks a lot... But I guess if there isn't a better solution???

Re: Problems with Chapter* style

2006-06-19 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Julio Rojas wrote: I did... I'm goint to print my work today thanks to that solution... But I'm curious about a more elegant solution... I would have told you if I knew ;-) The problem is that [EMAIL PROTECTED] and similar commands (like amsmath's \numberwithin) need *two* counters. The one

Copyrights of material contributed to the wiki (Was: Layout..)

2006-06-19 Thread christian . ridderstrom
Ok, I think we're reaching some general consensus here. I've tried editing this draft page accordingly, please give me your opinions http://wiki.lyx.org/Site/Copyrights-Draft here, or simply add them to that page. In David's text about default license, I replaced 'XXX' license with

Re: Copyrights of material contributed to the wiki (Was: Layout..)

2006-06-19 Thread Georg Baum
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we choose BSD or GPL for the default? Out of habit I'd lean towards GPL, and also because that is what I'd expect if I never bothered to read the Copyrights page. I'd say GPL. I did not follow this thread too closely, but as I understand it layout files can only be

Jurabib and Lyx: Bibliography problem

2006-06-19 Thread Julio Rojas
Hi, this is a minor problem, but an annoying one. In Jurabib documentation the format of each bibliographic reference shows: Brox, Hans: Allgemeiner Teil des Bürgerlichen Gesetzbuches. 20th edition. Köln, Berlin, Bonn, München, 1996 But in my document all references are show like this one:

APA for LyX

2006-06-19 Thread Thomas Widhalm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm asking on behalf of one of my users. I need to include the APA regulations for documents into LyX on a Fedora Core 5 box. I found several packages, but didn't manage to install it in an easy and quick way. Now I am asking you, if I just

Re: APA for LyX

2006-06-19 Thread Thomas Widhalm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So sorry, I didn't set clear, what I mean by APA: http://www.apa.org/ They have special guidelines for thesis', journals, reports, etc. I found some postings referring to these in context with LaTeX and even LyX, but I didn't manage to find

Problems with natbib

2006-06-19 Thread Gustav Von Sydow
Hi! I'm using Lyx with natbib and have some problems with the citations. Some of my citations look like this poole [5] and some of them look like this [8]. I do not want the author to appear in the document, just the numbers. I have chosen citations style: numerical in the preferences window, but

Re: Copyrights of material contributed to the wiki (Was: Layout..)

2006-06-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 19 June 2006 04:29 am, Georg Baum wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we choose BSD or GPL for the default? Out of habit I'd lean towards GPL, and also because that is what I'd expect if I never bothered to read the Copyrights page. I'd say GPL. I did not follow this thread too

Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Jeremy Wells
For some time I have been evaluating Lyx as an academic word processor, but find it wanting in a few critical areas. For instance, the stated goal of Lyx is to spend more time writing, but less time on formatting. Based on my experience, however, and from posts to this list, a great deal of

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Jeremy Wells wrote: I suppose what I'm hoping for is someone to say 1) no, you're wrong, because...; 2) wait x number of years and we'll be there; or 3) if you don't like coding, use a different tool. No: 4) Sit down, learn coding and implement the features you are missing. Or at least: 5)

Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Jeremy Wells wrote: For some time I have been evaluating Lyx as an academic word processor, but find it wanting in a few critical areas. Jeremy, Right there you're off on the wrong foot. LyX is a gooey front end to the LaTeX macro layer on top of the TeX typesetting

Re: Instant Preview working in LyX 1.4.1?

2006-06-19 Thread Rudi Gaelzer
Hi. Sorry for the delay on the reply... I installed both packages that are distributed by the fedora core extras repository: lyx 1.4.1 and lyx-qt 1.4.1. The dependencies are automatically handled by yum. Thus, yes, all dependencies are satisfied. Is there some way to check out on some error

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Richard Heck
Speaking just for myself...and, yes, I'm an academic, a philosopher (with mathematical interests)... I have found LyX to deliver precisely what it purports to offer: I concentrate more on my writing and less on formatting. It seems crazy in retrospect, but when I was using a traditional word

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jeremy Wells wrote: I suppose what I'm hoping for is someone to say 1) no, you're wrong, because...; 2) wait x number of years and we'll be there; or 3) if you don't like coding, use a different tool. 1) You're wrong somewhat... People in this list are really advanced user. I've been using

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 19 June 2006 09:21 am, Jeremy Wells wrote: For some time I have been evaluating Lyx as an academic word processor, but find it wanting in a few critical areas. For instance, the stated goal of Lyx is to spend more time writing, but less time on formatting. Based on my experience,

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread David Neeley
Jeremy et al.: I am a relatively new LyX user, too. Among the documents I did in the first days of using it was a 12-page, footnoted report. It was far simpler than using a word processor be it OOo, Word, WordPerfect, WordPro, KWord, AbiWord, or various others with which I am quite familiar. (I

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Eric Nystrom
Jeremy, I'm a humanities user as well (history) so I understand your frustration however, I'll take an approach most similar to your #1 -- you're wrong: Lyx requires a little more investment in document structures, formatting, and so on, which is the point of most of the discussion on the

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Martin A. Hansen
hello jeremy i agree with you on your observations. i find lyx a very nice editor for formatting documents, however, i also have this feeling that most of my time is spend on the steep learning slopes of latex (which is because all the lyx things are fast and easy!). in my humble oppinion,

Re: Inserting a tab indented outline into a lyx document

2006-06-19 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Steve Litt wrote: That works perfectly, and I could make a LyX environment to eliminate the ERT. As it turned out, I just used the itemize environment for this particular application, but your example showed me how to directly translate my tab indented outline into LyX with a simple Ruby

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, David Neeley wrote: I am a firm believer in creating styles and using them rather than overriding particular pieces of a document--to the fullest possible extent. That makes upkeep of that document over time a much more consistent effort with much less effort involved. It

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Stephen Harris
Richard Heck wrote: Speaking just for myself...and, yes, I'm an academic, a philosopher (with mathematical interests)... I have found LyX to deliver precisely what it purports to offer: I concentrate more on my writing and less on formatting. It seems crazy in retrospect, but when I was using a

Re: Instant Preview working in LyX 1.4.1?

2006-06-19 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Rudi Gaelzer wrote: Is there some way to check out on some error messages that might come up when lyx tries to execute the instant preview? lyx -dbg any (and brace yourself for the flood of messages). /Paul

BSD license, among many others: was: Re: Copyrights of material contributed to the wiki (Was: Layout..)

2006-06-19 Thread David Neeley
Steve, you are correct that the layout file is *not* required to be GPL. The BSD license is at http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php NOTE that it is MUCH shorter (and thus more likely to be read!) than the GPL. Plus, with the GPL, we have the consideration as to *which* GPL? There

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Richard Heck wrote: I have found LyX to deliver precisely what it purports to offer: I concentrate more on my writing and less on formatting. It seems crazy in retrospect, but when I was using a traditional word processor (WordPerfect, in my case), I'd spend a ridiculously

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Martin A. Hansen wrote: so i would like to add to your post some questions about considering alternatives to latex as layout engine. would it be possible (and feasible) to integrate tex commands with lyx circumnavigating latex? what other alternatives are there? xhtml and

Re: Layout copyright; was: Re: Sharing layout files

2006-06-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 01:57:26PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Friday 16 June 2006 11:50 am, you wrote: The real first question is whether a layout file can be covered by copyright to begin with. As I pointed out before, one good example is fonts. While their names can be copyrighted,

Appearences

2006-06-19 Thread Rich Shepard
We've had a lot of discussion recently about layouts, page design, fine tuning appearances, bibliographies, and so on. This makes me ask: how many of you with needs beyond the standard own and have read Mittlebach Goossen's The LaTeX Companion, 2nd edition? How many have searched CTAN for a

Re: Instant Preview working in LyX 1.4.1?

2006-06-19 Thread Rudi Gaelzer
Funny! I swear it wasn't working. I could wait a whole day and nothing... Then, I started lyx from the console in debug mode (with lyx -dbg any, as suggested) and Instant preview worked. Then, I quitted and started from the kde menu (lyx-qt) and voila! Here I have math preview in lyx 1.4.1.

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 09:21:44AM -0400, Jeremy Wells wrote: I suppose what I'm hoping for is someone to say 1) no, you're wrong, because...; 2) wait x number of years and we'll be there; or 3) if you don't like coding, use a different tool. It's not 1). Could be 2) for sufficiently large

Re: Copyrights of material contributed to the wiki (Was: Layout..)

2006-06-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 10:29:00AM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we choose BSD or GPL for the default? Out of habit I'd lean towards GPL, and also because that is what I'd expect if I never bothered to read the Copyrights page. I'd say GPL. I did not follow this

Easing the editing/correction of LyX documents

2006-06-19 Thread Peter Bowyer
Hi, I am one of the people who cannot finds editing documents hard on screen - I end up printing a copy and then working through it with a pen, making changes and restructuring, and then typing the changes up. I didn't find this a problem when using Word because what was on-screen looked

Re: Easing the editing/correction of LyX documents

2006-06-19 Thread John Coppens
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:00:22 +0100 Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I know that people have been writing documents this way for much longer than word processors have been around, (think of raw TeX) which suggests it's a problem with my approach. Do you have any tips or

Re: Easing the editing/correction of LyX documents

2006-06-19 Thread A. Scottedward Hodel
This ties in closely with the ongoing discussion of the goals of LyX. The LyX editor itself is to put in the content/hierarchical organization of a document. When I need to preview the actual document, I use that option in LyX (cmd-T on a macintosh, View- update-pdf on the menu) which lets

Re: Easing the editing/correction of LyX documents

2006-06-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 19 June 2006 04:00 pm, Peter Bowyer wrote: Hi, I am one of the people who cannot finds editing documents hard on screen - I end up printing a copy and then working through it with a pen, making changes and restructuring, and then typing the changes up. I didn't find this a

Re: Easing the editing/correction of LyX documents

2006-06-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Peter Bowyer wrote: Do you have any tips or suggestions for making the editing process smoother? Peter, I can offer what I developed as a workable solution for me over several decades. I wear two hats, but not at the same time. I wear my writing hat and put out a

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Monday 19 June 2006 18:05, Rich Shepard wrote: I was very pleased to learn that when Springer-Verlag asked to publish my book, they provided their own class (svmono) for monographs, and they have a TeXpert on staff in New York because they prefer to get documents submitted camera ready.

Re: Easing the editing/correction of LyX documents

2006-06-19 Thread Peter Bowyer
At 21:11 19/06/2006, John Coppens wrote: Shouldn't be too difficult - if you want to read the same-as-printed document, why don't you use the View options? View|PDF or View|postscript or whatever equivalent to the command you use to print... Because these don't' help me find the text I need to

Re: Easing the editing/correction of LyX documents

2006-06-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, A. Scottedward Hodel wrote: I've come to LyX from the opposite end of many of the people writing: I started with LaTeX, ideal for writing mathematical papers/bibliographies, and now find LyX a wonderful way to simiplify document formatting and preparation. I only use

Re: Easing the editing/correction of LyX documents

2006-06-19 Thread Richard Heck
When I'm doing close editing, I View DVI and switch back and forth between the DVI viewer and LyX. LyX now has a feature that allows you the DVI viewer effectively to inform LyX what you want to edit, and LyX will then go there automatically. I've not used that yet, however, as I can always just

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Monday 19 June 2006 15:21, Jeremy Wells wrote: I suppose what I'm hoping for is someone to say 1) no, you're wrong, because...; 2) wait x number of years and we'll be there; or 3) if you don't like coding, use a different tool. From my experience from writing my thesis which LyX I'd say 1).

Re: Instant Preview working in LyX 1.4.1?

2006-06-19 Thread Stefano Grioni
Rudi Gaelzer wrote: Funny! I swear it wasn't working. I could wait a whole day and nothing... Then, I started lyx from the console in debug mode (with lyx -dbg any, as suggested) and Instant preview worked. Then, I quitted and started from the kde menu (lyx-qt) and voila! Here I have math

Reverse DVI search (Was: Easing the editing/correction of LyX..)

2006-06-19 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Peter Bowyer wrote: Hi, I am one of the people who cannot finds editing documents hard on screen - I end up printing a copy and then working through it with a pen, making changes and restructuring, and then typing the changes up. Me too... I've always wondered if a

OT: Tool to convert from LaTeX to SVG

2006-06-19 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All Is there some tool to convert from LaTex equations to SVG? I have tried pstoedit, but it does not apparently work here. Thanks in advance, Paul

Re: Easing the editing/correction of LyX documents

2006-06-19 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 09:00:22PM +0100, Peter Bowyer wrote: Hi, I am one of the people who cannot finds editing documents hard on screen - I end up printing a copy and then working through it with a pen, making changes and restructuring, and then typing the changes up. I didn't find

Re: Problems with Chapter* style

2006-06-19 Thread Julio Rojas
On 6/19/06, Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julio Rojas wrote: Yup, that's a solution... Thanks a lot... But I guess if there isn't a better solution??? Probably. But in the time you wait (or search) for that, you probably have inserted the mentioned command easily. I thought

Re: Problems with Chapter* style

2006-06-19 Thread Julio Rojas
I did... I'm goint to print my work today thanks to that solution... But I'm curious about a more elegant solution... On 6/19/06, Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julio Rojas wrote: Yup, that's a solution... Thanks a lot... But I guess if there isn't a better solution???

Re: Problems with Chapter* style

2006-06-19 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Julio Rojas wrote: I did... I'm goint to print my work today thanks to that solution... But I'm curious about a more elegant solution... I would have told you if I knew ;-) The problem is that [EMAIL PROTECTED] and similar commands (like amsmath's \numberwithin) need *two* counters. The one

Copyrights of material contributed to the wiki (Was: Layout..)

2006-06-19 Thread christian . ridderstrom
Ok, I think we're reaching some general consensus here. I've tried editing this draft page accordingly, please give me your opinions http://wiki.lyx.org/Site/Copyrights-Draft here, or simply add them to that page. In David's text about default license, I replaced 'XXX' license with

Re: Copyrights of material contributed to the wiki (Was: Layout..)

2006-06-19 Thread Georg Baum
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we choose BSD or GPL for the default? Out of habit I'd lean towards GPL, and also because that is what I'd expect if I never bothered to read the Copyrights page. I'd say GPL. I did not follow this thread too closely, but as I understand it layout files can only be

Jurabib and Lyx: Bibliography problem

2006-06-19 Thread Julio Rojas
Hi, this is a minor problem, but an annoying one. In Jurabib documentation the format of each bibliographic reference shows: Brox, Hans: Allgemeiner Teil des Bürgerlichen Gesetzbuches. 20th edition. Köln, Berlin, Bonn, München, 1996 But in my document all references are show like this one:

APA for LyX

2006-06-19 Thread Thomas Widhalm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm asking on behalf of one of my users. I need to include the APA regulations for documents into LyX on a Fedora Core 5 box. I found several packages, but didn't manage to install it in an easy and quick way. Now I am asking you, if I just

Re: APA for LyX

2006-06-19 Thread Thomas Widhalm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So sorry, I didn't set clear, what I mean by APA: http://www.apa.org/ They have special guidelines for thesis', journals, reports, etc. I found some postings referring to these in context with LaTeX and even LyX, but I didn't manage to find

Problems with natbib

2006-06-19 Thread Gustav Von Sydow
Hi! I'm using Lyx with natbib and have some problems with the citations. Some of my citations look like this poole [5] and some of them look like this [8]. I do not want the author to appear in the document, just the numbers. I have chosen citations style: numerical in the preferences window, but

Re: Copyrights of material contributed to the wiki (Was: Layout..)

2006-06-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 19 June 2006 04:29 am, Georg Baum wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we choose BSD or GPL for the default? Out of habit I'd lean towards GPL, and also because that is what I'd expect if I never bothered to read the Copyrights page. I'd say GPL. I did not follow this thread too

Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Jeremy Wells
For some time I have been evaluating Lyx as an academic word processor, but find it wanting in a few critical areas. For instance, the stated goal of Lyx is to spend more time writing, but less time on formatting. Based on my experience, however, and from posts to this list, a great deal of

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Jeremy Wells wrote: I suppose what I'm hoping for is someone to say 1) no, you're wrong, because...; 2) wait x number of years and we'll be there; or 3) if you don't like coding, use a different tool. No: 4) Sit down, learn coding and implement the features you are missing. Or at least: 5)

Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Jeremy Wells wrote: For some time I have been evaluating Lyx as an academic word processor, but find it wanting in a few critical areas. Jeremy, Right there you're off on the wrong foot. LyX is a gooey front end to the LaTeX macro layer on top of the TeX typesetting

Re: Instant Preview working in LyX 1.4.1?

2006-06-19 Thread Rudi Gaelzer
Hi. Sorry for the delay on the reply... I installed both packages that are distributed by the fedora core extras repository: lyx 1.4.1 and lyx-qt 1.4.1. The dependencies are automatically handled by yum. Thus, yes, all dependencies are satisfied. Is there some way to check out on some error

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Richard Heck
Speaking just for myself...and, yes, I'm an academic, a philosopher (with mathematical interests)... I have found LyX to deliver precisely what it purports to offer: I concentrate more on my writing and less on formatting. It seems crazy in retrospect, but when I was using a traditional word

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jeremy Wells wrote: I suppose what I'm hoping for is someone to say 1) no, you're wrong, because...; 2) wait x number of years and we'll be there; or 3) if you don't like coding, use a different tool. 1) You're wrong somewhat... People in this list are really advanced user. I've been using

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 19 June 2006 09:21 am, Jeremy Wells wrote: For some time I have been evaluating Lyx as an academic word processor, but find it wanting in a few critical areas. For instance, the stated goal of Lyx is to spend more time writing, but less time on formatting. Based on my experience,

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread David Neeley
Jeremy et al.: I am a relatively new LyX user, too. Among the documents I did in the first days of using it was a 12-page, footnoted report. It was far simpler than using a word processor be it OOo, Word, WordPerfect, WordPro, KWord, AbiWord, or various others with which I am quite familiar. (I

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Eric Nystrom
Jeremy, I'm a humanities user as well (history) so I understand your frustration however, I'll take an approach most similar to your #1 -- you're wrong: Lyx requires a little more investment in document structures, formatting, and so on, which is the point of most of the discussion on the

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Martin A. Hansen
hello jeremy i agree with you on your observations. i find lyx a very nice editor for formatting documents, however, i also have this feeling that most of my time is spend on the steep learning slopes of latex (which is because all the lyx things are fast and easy!). in my humble oppinion,

Re: Inserting a tab indented outline into a lyx document

2006-06-19 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Steve Litt wrote: That works perfectly, and I could make a LyX environment to eliminate the ERT. As it turned out, I just used the itemize environment for this particular application, but your example showed me how to directly translate my tab indented outline into LyX with a simple Ruby

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, David Neeley wrote: I am a firm believer in creating styles and using them rather than overriding particular pieces of a document--to the fullest possible extent. That makes upkeep of that document over time a much more consistent effort with much less effort involved. It

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Stephen Harris
Richard Heck wrote: Speaking just for myself...and, yes, I'm an academic, a philosopher (with mathematical interests)... I have found LyX to deliver precisely what it purports to offer: I concentrate more on my writing and less on formatting. It seems crazy in retrospect, but when I was using a

Re: Instant Preview working in LyX 1.4.1?

2006-06-19 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Rudi Gaelzer wrote: Is there some way to check out on some error messages that might come up when lyx tries to execute the instant preview? lyx -dbg any (and brace yourself for the flood of messages). /Paul

BSD license, among many others: was: Re: Copyrights of material contributed to the wiki (Was: Layout..)

2006-06-19 Thread David Neeley
Steve, you are correct that the layout file is *not* required to be GPL. The BSD license is at http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php NOTE that it is MUCH shorter (and thus more likely to be read!) than the GPL. Plus, with the GPL, we have the consideration as to *which* GPL? There

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Richard Heck wrote: I have found LyX to deliver precisely what it purports to offer: I concentrate more on my writing and less on formatting. It seems crazy in retrospect, but when I was using a traditional word processor (WordPerfect, in my case), I'd spend a ridiculously

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Martin A. Hansen wrote: so i would like to add to your post some questions about considering alternatives to latex as layout engine. would it be possible (and feasible) to integrate tex commands with lyx circumnavigating latex? what other alternatives are there? xhtml and

Re: Layout copyright; was: Re: Sharing layout files

2006-06-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 01:57:26PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Friday 16 June 2006 11:50 am, you wrote: The real first question is whether a layout file can be covered by copyright to begin with. As I pointed out before, one good example is fonts. While their names can be copyrighted,

Appearences

2006-06-19 Thread Rich Shepard
We've had a lot of discussion recently about layouts, page design, fine tuning appearances, bibliographies, and so on. This makes me ask: how many of you with needs beyond the standard own and have read Mittlebach Goossen's The LaTeX Companion, 2nd edition? How many have searched CTAN for a

Re: Instant Preview working in LyX 1.4.1?

2006-06-19 Thread Rudi Gaelzer
Funny! I swear it wasn't working. I could wait a whole day and nothing... Then, I started lyx from the console in debug mode (with lyx -dbg any, as suggested) and Instant preview worked. Then, I quitted and started from the kde menu (lyx-qt) and voila! Here I have math preview in lyx 1.4.1.

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 09:21:44AM -0400, Jeremy Wells wrote: I suppose what I'm hoping for is someone to say 1) no, you're wrong, because...; 2) wait x number of years and we'll be there; or 3) if you don't like coding, use a different tool. It's not 1). Could be 2) for sufficiently large

Re: Copyrights of material contributed to the wiki (Was: Layout..)

2006-06-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 10:29:00AM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we choose BSD or GPL for the default? Out of habit I'd lean towards GPL, and also because that is what I'd expect if I never bothered to read the Copyrights page. I'd say GPL. I did not follow this

Easing the editing/correction of LyX documents

2006-06-19 Thread Peter Bowyer
Hi, I am one of the people who cannot finds editing documents hard on screen - I end up printing a copy and then working through it with a pen, making changes and restructuring, and then typing the changes up. I didn't find this a problem when using Word because what was on-screen looked

Re: Easing the editing/correction of LyX documents

2006-06-19 Thread John Coppens
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:00:22 +0100 Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I know that people have been writing documents this way for much longer than word processors have been around, (think of raw TeX) which suggests it's a problem with my approach. Do you have any tips or

Re: Easing the editing/correction of LyX documents

2006-06-19 Thread A. Scottedward Hodel
This ties in closely with the ongoing discussion of the goals of LyX. The LyX editor itself is to put in the content/hierarchical organization of a document. When I need to preview the actual document, I use that option in LyX (cmd-T on a macintosh, View- update-pdf on the menu) which lets

Re: Easing the editing/correction of LyX documents

2006-06-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 19 June 2006 04:00 pm, Peter Bowyer wrote: Hi, I am one of the people who cannot finds editing documents hard on screen - I end up printing a copy and then working through it with a pen, making changes and restructuring, and then typing the changes up. I didn't find this a

Re: Easing the editing/correction of LyX documents

2006-06-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Peter Bowyer wrote: Do you have any tips or suggestions for making the editing process smoother? Peter, I can offer what I developed as a workable solution for me over several decades. I wear two hats, but not at the same time. I wear my writing hat and put out a

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Monday 19 June 2006 18:05, Rich Shepard wrote: I was very pleased to learn that when Springer-Verlag asked to publish my book, they provided their own class (svmono) for monographs, and they have a TeXpert on staff in New York because they prefer to get documents submitted camera ready.

Re: Easing the editing/correction of LyX documents

2006-06-19 Thread Peter Bowyer
At 21:11 19/06/2006, John Coppens wrote: Shouldn't be too difficult - if you want to read the same-as-printed document, why don't you use the View options? View|PDF or View|postscript or whatever equivalent to the command you use to print... Because these don't' help me find the text I need to

Re: Easing the editing/correction of LyX documents

2006-06-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, A. Scottedward Hodel wrote: I've come to LyX from the opposite end of many of the people writing: I started with LaTeX, ideal for writing mathematical papers/bibliographies, and now find LyX a wonderful way to simiplify document formatting and preparation. I only use

Re: Easing the editing/correction of LyX documents

2006-06-19 Thread Richard Heck
When I'm doing close editing, I View DVI and switch back and forth between the DVI viewer and LyX. LyX now has a feature that allows you the DVI viewer effectively to inform LyX what you want to edit, and LyX will then go there automatically. I've not used that yet, however, as I can always just

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

2006-06-19 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Monday 19 June 2006 15:21, Jeremy Wells wrote: I suppose what I'm hoping for is someone to say 1) no, you're wrong, because...; 2) wait x number of years and we'll be there; or 3) if you don't like coding, use a different tool. From my experience from writing my thesis which LyX I'd say 1).

Re: Instant Preview working in LyX 1.4.1?

2006-06-19 Thread Stefano Grioni
Rudi Gaelzer wrote: Funny! I swear it wasn't working. I could wait a whole day and nothing... Then, I started lyx from the console in debug mode (with lyx -dbg any, as suggested) and Instant preview worked. Then, I quitted and started from the kde menu (lyx-qt) and voila! Here I have math

Reverse DVI search (Was: Easing the editing/correction of LyX..)

2006-06-19 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Peter Bowyer wrote: Hi, I am one of the people who cannot finds editing documents hard on screen - I end up printing a copy and then working through it with a pen, making changes and restructuring, and then typing the changes up. Me too... I've always wondered if a

OT: Tool to convert from LaTeX to SVG

2006-06-19 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All Is there some tool to convert from LaTex equations to SVG? I have tried pstoedit, but it does not apparently work here. Thanks in advance, Paul

Re: Easing the editing/correction of LyX documents

2006-06-19 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 09:00:22PM +0100, Peter Bowyer wrote: Hi, I am one of the people who cannot finds editing documents hard on screen - I end up printing a copy and then working through it with a pen, making changes and restructuring, and then typing the changes up. I didn't find

Re: Problems with "Chapter*" style

2006-06-19 Thread Julio Rojas
On 6/19/06, Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Julio Rojas wrote: > Yup, that's a solution... Thanks a lot... But I guess if there isn't a > better solution??? Probably. But in the time you wait (or search) for that, you probably have inserted the mentioned command easily. I

Re: Problems with "Chapter*" style

2006-06-19 Thread Julio Rojas
I did... I'm goint to print my work today thanks to that solution... But I'm curious about a more "elegant" solution... On 6/19/06, Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Julio Rojas wrote: > Yup, that's a solution... Thanks a lot... But I guess if there isn't a > better solution???

Re: Problems with "Chapter*" style

2006-06-19 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Julio Rojas wrote: > I did... I'm goint to print my work today thanks to that solution... But > I'm curious about a more "elegant" solution... I would have told you if I knew ;-) The problem is that [EMAIL PROTECTED] and similar commands (like amsmath's \numberwithin) need *two* counters. The

Copyrights of material contributed to the wiki (Was: Layout..)

2006-06-19 Thread christian . ridderstrom
Ok, I think we're reaching some general consensus here. I've tried editing this draft page accordingly, please give me your opinions http://wiki.lyx.org/Site/Copyrights-Draft here, or simply add them to that page. In David's text about default license, I replaced 'XXX' license with

Re: Copyrights of material contributed to the wiki (Was: Layout..)

2006-06-19 Thread Georg Baum
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Do we choose BSD or GPL for the default? Out of habit I'd lean towards > GPL, and also because that is what I'd expect if I never bothered to read > the Copyrights page. I'd say GPL. I did not follow this thread too closely, but as I understand it layout files can only

Jurabib and Lyx: Bibliography problem

2006-06-19 Thread Julio Rojas
Hi, this is a minor problem, but an annoying one. In Jurabib documentation the format of each bibliographic reference shows: Brox, Hans: Allgemeiner Teil des Bürgerlichen Gesetzbuches. 20th edition. Köln, Berlin, Bonn, München, 1996 But in my document all references are show like this one:

APA for LyX

2006-06-19 Thread Thomas Widhalm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm asking on behalf of one of my users. I need to include the APA regulations for documents into LyX on a Fedora Core 5 box. I found several packages, but didn't manage to install it in an easy and quick way. Now I am asking you, if I just

Re: APA for LyX

2006-06-19 Thread Thomas Widhalm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So sorry, I didn't set clear, what I mean by "APA": http://www.apa.org/ They have special guidelines for thesis', journals, reports, etc. I found some postings referring to these in context with LaTeX and even LyX, but I didn't manage to find

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