Lyx 1.1.5.fix2 on SuSE7.0 Problems

2001-03-03 Thread Wolfgang Kilian

Hello all you,
 since I started to write my thesis on Lyx 1.1.5 an now on 1.1.5.fix1 on an old 200MHz 
Pentium machine with SuSE Linux 6.3. I tried several installations on faster machines 
with either the same Linux version or now with the 7.0 release.

On that 800MHz PIII machine with SuSE Linux 7.0 I installed Lyx 1.1.5.fix2 and it 
seemed to work until I loaded an 'old' file from the Lyx 1.1.5.fix1 version on my old 
computer. The one page documents get loaded but the pictures in figure floats are not 
be drawn. When I try to load my thesis as far as it is written (from the disk which is 
mounted via NFS) very short the title could be seen but then the whole KDE crashes and 
goes to the login screen. When I copy the thesis document to a local directory 
(without the pictures) the document is loaded but the chapters are badly renumbered.

I don't know what to change further (I have done reconfigure, I have copied the .lyx 
directory from my old computer to the new one). If anyone knows what to try pleas let 
me know.

Many thanks in advance
Wolfgang
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Why did LyX create its own layout format?

2001-03-03 Thread Paul E Johnson

Since I publicized my blunder with the myHangIndent code not translating
well with latex2html, I've been doing some background study to
understand better the mistake.  This morning I woke with this question. 

Why did the original LyX author create his own layout format? Why didn't
he use the TeX standard sty or cls style? That way, LyX could use any
TeX sty or cls files and not have to build that intermediate lyx layout
representation of it. 

I know there must be a good reason, but the more I try to learn a giant
style file from the Kluwer publishing company and translate it into a
lyx book layout, the more I wish I didn't have to do it at all.  Since I
don't know TeX, it is extremely frustrating to translate TeX into LyX,
which I also don't know

-- 
Paul E. Johnson   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dept. of Political Sciencehttp://lark.cc.ukans.edu/~pauljohn
University of Kansas  Office: (785) 864-9086
Lawrence, Kansas 66045FAX: (785) 864-5700



Re: Why did LyX create its own layout format?

2001-03-03 Thread Allan Rae

On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Paul E Johnson wrote:

 Since I publicized my blunder with the myHangIndent code not translating
 well with latex2html, I've been doing some background study to
 understand better the mistake.  This morning I woke with this question.

 Why did the original LyX author create his own layout format? Why didn't
 he use the TeX standard sty or cls style? That way, LyX could use any
 TeX sty or cls files and not have to build that intermediate lyx layout
 representation of it.

Have you tried reading one of those things?

Sure it'd be great if someone did the leg work to get a parser into shape
that understands what's going on in such a file (short of including half
of TeX in LyX).  We just need to extract some simple info.  We don't care
about glue lengths for example -- we're WYSIWYM not WYSIWYG after all.

 I know there must be a good reason, but the more I try to learn a giant
 style file from the Kluwer publishing company and translate it into a
 lyx book layout, the more I wish I didn't have to do it at all.  Since I
 don't know TeX, it is extremely frustrating to translate TeX into LyX,
 which I also don't know

Yes it seems you have looked ;-)

The best place to start is copy styles that look similar from other
layouts.  So long as it looks approximately okay on screen should be a
good first draft.  The important stuff is figuring out what are valid user
commands and environments and how LyX should output them.

Some styles/classes are easier to use than others in this regard.

Allan. (ARRae)




Re: Why did LyX create its own layout format?

2001-03-03 Thread Andre Poenitz

 Why did the original LyX author create his own layout format? Why didn't
 he use the TeX standard sty or cls style? That way, LyX could use any
 TeX sty or cls files and not have to build that intermediate lyx layout
 representation of it. 

I can't comment on the thoughts of the original LyX author but I guess it's
a matter of simplicity: .sty/.cls files can contain arbitrary TeX
commands so it is really difficult to interpret correctly not to mention to
guess a good screen layout (WYSIWYG is not necessarily what you want on a
640x480 screen...)

Andre'

-- 
Andr Pnitz  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: First paragraph indent

2001-03-03 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

Alexandre Gonalves Jacarand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

|   In Brasil *every* paragraph gets indented, but if I use the
| option \usepackage{indentfirst}
| I get only the first one indented and I need to indent all then I use
| other tip \newcommand{\myIndent}{\hspace{\parindent}}
|   Lyx is a good program but we need sometimes, more options to make
| that things work.

So having the paragraph skip set to indent, together with using
indentfirst.sty is not enough?

Are you using skip _and_ indent together? (that would be really far
from the little typography that I know)

Note that in cases like:

...\par

This is a first sentence in a paragraph
\begin{itemize}
\item one
\item two
\end{itemize}
Second paragraph in same paragraph.\par

"Second..." should not be indented. since this is not a new paragraph.

Lgb




How_to_center_inputted_figs?

2001-03-03 Thread Andreas Rau

Hello,

How can we center Figures that are inserted using
"Insert-Include_File-Input" (It's these xfigs that combine Latex and
PS). I insert them into a figure float, but the centering on the page
doesn't react on hfill's. Do we have to set \hfill's manually?

Thanks
Andreas
-- 
Andreas Rau



Re: How_to_center_inputted_figs?

2001-03-03 Thread Herbert Voss

Andreas Rau wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 How can we center Figures that are inserted using
 "Insert-Include_File-Input" (It's these xfigs that combine Latex and
 PS). I insert them into a figure float, but the centering on the page
 doesn't react on hfill's. Do we have to set \hfill's manually?

try \centering

Herbert


-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://perce.de/lyx/



Lyx 1.1.5.fix2 on SuSE7.0 Problems

2001-03-03 Thread Wolfgang Kilian

Hello all you,
 since I started to write my thesis on Lyx 1.1.5 an now on 1.1.5.fix1 on an old 200MHz 
Pentium machine with SuSE Linux 6.3. I tried several installations on faster machines 
with either the same Linux version or now with the 7.0 release.

On that 800MHz PIII machine with SuSE Linux 7.0 I installed Lyx 1.1.5.fix2 and it 
seemed to work until I loaded an 'old' file from the Lyx 1.1.5.fix1 version on my old 
computer. The one page documents get loaded but the pictures in figure floats are not 
be drawn. When I try to load my thesis as far as it is written (from the disk which is 
mounted via NFS) very short the title could be seen but then the whole KDE crashes and 
goes to the login screen. When I copy the thesis document to a local directory 
(without the pictures) the document is loaded but the chapters are badly renumbered.

I don't know what to change further (I have done reconfigure, I have copied the .lyx 
directory from my old computer to the new one). If anyone knows what to try pleas let 
me know.

Many thanks in advance
Wolfgang
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Why did LyX create its own layout format?

2001-03-03 Thread Paul E Johnson

Since I publicized my blunder with the myHangIndent code not translating
well with latex2html, I've been doing some background study to
understand better the mistake.  This morning I woke with this question. 

Why did the original LyX author create his own layout format? Why didn't
he use the TeX standard sty or cls style? That way, LyX could use any
TeX sty or cls files and not have to build that intermediate lyx layout
representation of it. 

I know there must be a good reason, but the more I try to learn a giant
style file from the Kluwer publishing company and translate it into a
lyx book layout, the more I wish I didn't have to do it at all.  Since I
don't know TeX, it is extremely frustrating to translate TeX into LyX,
which I also don't know

-- 
Paul E. Johnson   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dept. of Political Sciencehttp://lark.cc.ukans.edu/~pauljohn
University of Kansas  Office: (785) 864-9086
Lawrence, Kansas 66045FAX: (785) 864-5700



Re: Why did LyX create its own layout format?

2001-03-03 Thread Allan Rae

On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Paul E Johnson wrote:

 Since I publicized my blunder with the myHangIndent code not translating
 well with latex2html, I've been doing some background study to
 understand better the mistake.  This morning I woke with this question.

 Why did the original LyX author create his own layout format? Why didn't
 he use the TeX standard sty or cls style? That way, LyX could use any
 TeX sty or cls files and not have to build that intermediate lyx layout
 representation of it.

Have you tried reading one of those things?

Sure it'd be great if someone did the leg work to get a parser into shape
that understands what's going on in such a file (short of including half
of TeX in LyX).  We just need to extract some simple info.  We don't care
about glue lengths for example -- we're WYSIWYM not WYSIWYG after all.

 I know there must be a good reason, but the more I try to learn a giant
 style file from the Kluwer publishing company and translate it into a
 lyx book layout, the more I wish I didn't have to do it at all.  Since I
 don't know TeX, it is extremely frustrating to translate TeX into LyX,
 which I also don't know

Yes it seems you have looked ;-)

The best place to start is copy styles that look similar from other
layouts.  So long as it looks approximately okay on screen should be a
good first draft.  The important stuff is figuring out what are valid user
commands and environments and how LyX should output them.

Some styles/classes are easier to use than others in this regard.

Allan. (ARRae)




Re: Why did LyX create its own layout format?

2001-03-03 Thread Andre Poenitz

 Why did the original LyX author create his own layout format? Why didn't
 he use the TeX standard sty or cls style? That way, LyX could use any
 TeX sty or cls files and not have to build that intermediate lyx layout
 representation of it. 

I can't comment on the thoughts of the original LyX author but I guess it's
a matter of simplicity: .sty/.cls files can contain arbitrary TeX
commands so it is really difficult to interpret correctly not to mention to
guess a good screen layout (WYSIWYG is not necessarily what you want on a
640x480 screen...)

Andre'

-- 
Andr Pnitz  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: First paragraph indent

2001-03-03 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

Alexandre Gonalves Jacarand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

|   In Brasil *every* paragraph gets indented, but if I use the
| option \usepackage{indentfirst}
| I get only the first one indented and I need to indent all then I use
| other tip \newcommand{\myIndent}{\hspace{\parindent}}
|   Lyx is a good program but we need sometimes, more options to make
| that things work.

So having the paragraph skip set to indent, together with using
indentfirst.sty is not enough?

Are you using skip _and_ indent together? (that would be really far
from the little typography that I know)

Note that in cases like:

...\par

This is a first sentence in a paragraph
\begin{itemize}
\item one
\item two
\end{itemize}
Second paragraph in same paragraph.\par

"Second..." should not be indented. since this is not a new paragraph.

Lgb




How_to_center_inputted_figs?

2001-03-03 Thread Andreas Rau

Hello,

How can we center Figures that are inserted using
"Insert-Include_File-Input" (It's these xfigs that combine Latex and
PS). I insert them into a figure float, but the centering on the page
doesn't react on hfill's. Do we have to set \hfill's manually?

Thanks
Andreas
-- 
Andreas Rau



Re: How_to_center_inputted_figs?

2001-03-03 Thread Herbert Voss

Andreas Rau wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 How can we center Figures that are inserted using
 "Insert-Include_File-Input" (It's these xfigs that combine Latex and
 PS). I insert them into a figure float, but the centering on the page
 doesn't react on hfill's. Do we have to set \hfill's manually?

try \centering

Herbert


-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://perce.de/lyx/



Lyx 1.1.5.fix2 on SuSE7.0 Problems

2001-03-03 Thread Wolfgang Kilian

Hello all you,
 since I started to write my thesis on Lyx 1.1.5 an now on 1.1.5.fix1 on an old 200MHz 
Pentium machine with SuSE Linux 6.3. I tried several installations on faster machines 
with either the same Linux version or now with the 7.0 release.

On that 800MHz PIII machine with SuSE Linux 7.0 I installed Lyx 1.1.5.fix2 and it 
seemed to work until I loaded an 'old' file from the Lyx 1.1.5.fix1 version on my old 
computer. The one page documents get loaded but the pictures in figure floats are not 
be drawn. When I try to load my thesis as far as it is written (from the disk which is 
mounted via NFS) very short the title could be seen but then the whole KDE crashes and 
goes to the login screen. When I copy the thesis document to a local directory 
(without the pictures) the document is loaded but the chapters are badly renumbered.

I don't know what to change further (I have done reconfigure, I have copied the .lyx 
directory from my old computer to the new one). If anyone knows what to try pleas let 
me know.

Many thanks in advance
Wolfgang
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Why did LyX create its own layout format?

2001-03-03 Thread Paul E Johnson

Since I publicized my blunder with the myHangIndent code not translating
well with latex2html, I've been doing some background study to
understand better the mistake.  This morning I woke with this question. 

Why did the original LyX author create his own layout format? Why didn't
he use the TeX standard sty or cls style? That way, LyX could use any
TeX sty or cls files and not have to build that intermediate lyx layout
representation of it. 

I know there must be a good reason, but the more I try to learn a giant
style file from the Kluwer publishing company and translate it into a
lyx book layout, the more I wish I didn't have to do it at all.  Since I
don't know TeX, it is extremely frustrating to translate TeX into LyX,
which I also don't know

-- 
Paul E. Johnson   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dept. of Political Sciencehttp://lark.cc.ukans.edu/~pauljohn
University of Kansas  Office: (785) 864-9086
Lawrence, Kansas 66045FAX: (785) 864-5700



Re: Why did LyX create its own layout format?

2001-03-03 Thread Allan Rae

On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Paul E Johnson wrote:

> Since I publicized my blunder with the myHangIndent code not translating
> well with latex2html, I've been doing some background study to
> understand better the mistake.  This morning I woke with this question.
>
> Why did the original LyX author create his own layout format? Why didn't
> he use the TeX standard sty or cls style? That way, LyX could use any
> TeX sty or cls files and not have to build that intermediate lyx layout
> representation of it.

Have you tried reading one of those things?

Sure it'd be great if someone did the leg work to get a parser into shape
that understands what's going on in such a file (short of including half
of TeX in LyX).  We just need to extract some simple info.  We don't care
about glue lengths for example -- we're WYSIWYM not WYSIWYG after all.

> I know there must be a good reason, but the more I try to learn a giant
> style file from the Kluwer publishing company and translate it into a
> lyx book layout, the more I wish I didn't have to do it at all.  Since I
> don't know TeX, it is extremely frustrating to translate TeX into LyX,
> which I also don't know

Yes it seems you have looked ;-)

The best place to start is copy styles that look similar from other
layouts.  So long as it looks approximately okay on screen should be a
good first draft.  The important stuff is figuring out what are valid user
commands and environments and how LyX should output them.

Some styles/classes are easier to use than others in this regard.

Allan. (ARRae)




Re: Why did LyX create its own layout format?

2001-03-03 Thread Andre Poenitz

> Why did the original LyX author create his own layout format? Why didn't
> he use the TeX standard sty or cls style? That way, LyX could use any
> TeX sty or cls files and not have to build that intermediate lyx layout
> representation of it. 

I can't comment on the thoughts of the original LyX author but I guess it's
a matter of simplicity: .sty/.cls files can contain arbitrary TeX
commands so it is really difficult to interpret correctly not to mention to
guess a good screen layout (WYSIWYG is not necessarily what you want on a
640x480 screen...)

Andre'

-- 
André Pönitz  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: First paragraph indent

2001-03-03 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

Alexandre Gonçalves Jacarandá <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

|   In Brasil *every* paragraph gets indented, but if I use the
| option \usepackage{indentfirst}
| I get only the first one indented and I need to indent all then I use
| other tip \newcommand{\myIndent}{\hspace{\parindent}}
|   Lyx is a good program but we need sometimes, more options to make
| that things work.

So having the paragraph skip set to indent, together with using
indentfirst.sty is not enough?

Are you using skip _and_ indent together? (that would be really far
from the little typography that I know)

Note that in cases like:

...\par

This is a first sentence in a paragraph
\begin{itemize}
\item one
\item two
\end{itemize}
Second paragraph in same paragraph.\par

"Second..." should not be indented. since this is not a new paragraph.

Lgb




How_to_center_inputted_figs?

2001-03-03 Thread Andreas Rau

Hello,

How can we center Figures that are inserted using
"Insert->Include_File->Input" (It's these xfigs that combine Latex and
PS). I insert them into a figure float, but the centering on the page
doesn't react on hfill's. Do we have to set \hfill's manually?

Thanks
Andreas
-- 
Andreas Rau



Re: How_to_center_inputted_figs?

2001-03-03 Thread Herbert Voss

Andreas Rau wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> How can we center Figures that are inserted using
> "Insert->Include_File->Input" (It's these xfigs that combine Latex and
> PS). I insert them into a figure float, but the centering on the page
> doesn't react on hfill's. Do we have to set \hfill's manually?

try \centering

Herbert


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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