Re: Using bibtopic.sty with LyX?

2000-10-16 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller

Hello Herbert,

Thank you very much for your instructions to modify the miniscript:
 
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1"1.aux"
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1"2.aux"
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1"3.aux"
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1"4.aux"
 ... usw

Now the script works excellent and everything is fine -- bibtopic works
with LyX !!!

I modified the script by myself a little bit:

1.) I added a bibtex run without the bibtopic extensions (on file.aux without
the numerical extensions), so that the script can handle other files with
"normal" bibliographies (without the use of bibtopic). I tested the script with
non-bibtopic files and there were no problems. Bibtopic by itself suppresses
the standard bibliography environment (it doesn't use file.aux)

2.) I left the ".aux" extensions, because you don't need them.

So the miniscript to use bibtopic with LyX (saved as "bibtex" in ~/bin) looks
like this (for four bibliography topics):

#!/bin/bash
/usr/bin/bibtex $1%% -- starts bibtex file
/usr/bin/bibtex $1"1"%% -- starts bibtex file1
/usr/bin/bibtex $1"2"%% -- starts bibtex file2
/usr/bin/bibtex $1"3"%% -- ...
/usr/bin/bibtex $1"4"

Well. I'm very grateful to your help - Thanks again!
Now I don't have to miss LyX --- by far the best document processing tool I ever
used --- for my work :-)

Best wishes,

Juergen.

P.S.: I changed to English again and added some explains about our discussion,
because I sent a copy to the LyX mailing list --- maybe there will be other
users who want to use the excellent bibtopic package for their bibliography. 



Re: Using bibtopic.sty with LyX?

2000-10-16 Thread Herbert Voss

"Jürgen Spitzmüller" wrote:

 So the miniscript to use bibtopic with LyX (saved as "bibtex" in ~/bin) looks
 like this (for four bibliography topics):
 
 #!/bin/bash
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1%% -- starts bibtex file
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1"1"%% -- starts bibtex file1
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1"2"%% -- starts bibtex file2
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1"3"%% -- ...
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1"4"

try the following script. it looks for all files with fileNR.aux
and starts bibtex, so you don't have to know how many bib-files
you have.


#!/bin/bash
/usr/bin/bibtex $1   # -- starts bibtex file.aux
NEXT=1
FILE=$1$NEXT
while [ -a $FILE.aux ]; do
  /usr/bin/bibtex $FILE  # -- starts bibtex fileNR.aux
  NEXT=$(($NEXT+1))
  FILE=$1$NEXT;
done




Herbert

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://perce.de/lyx/



Re: Using bibtopic.sty with LyX?

2000-10-16 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller

Herbert Voss wrote:

 try the following script. it looks for all files with fileNR.aux
 and starts bibtex, so you don't have to know how many bib-files
 you have.
 
 
 #!/bin/bash
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1   # -- starts bibtex file.aux
 NEXT=1
 FILE=$1$NEXT
 while [ -a $FILE.aux ]; do
   /usr/bin/bibtex $FILE  # -- starts bibtex fileNR.aux
   NEXT=$(($NEXT+1))
   FILE=$1$NEXT;
 done

Hello Herbert,

Your new script is, of course, much more effective than the previous one.
I tested it with both bibtopic and non bibtopic using LyX-files. It works with
no problems. Now it is usable for anyone who wants to produce a splitted
bibliography with LyX and the bibtopic-package, which is really very powerful
(it is fully compatible with natbib and one more feature is the possibility to
produce different bibliographies for chapters (like chapterbib) or seperate
topics for not-cited literature).

My experiences (in the arts, the human sciences) are, that splitting
bibliographies is a thing which can't be missed in a lot of 
sciences (e.g. in historiography, you have to split your bibliography into
at least two topics: sources and literature; the same in literary studies:
primary and secondary literature).
So I think, it is really a pitty, that LyX doesn't support this possibility by
itself (apart from this, it is by far the best document processing tool, as I
wrote before - I don't want to miss it).
Your script shows, that it is very easy to make LyX compatible with bibtopic,
which solves the problem.
I think, it would be a good idea to implement your script (or something like
this) to coming LyX versions - to make LyX even more powerful!

What do you think about it?

Greetings and thanks,

Juergen.



Re: Using bibtopic.sty with LyX?

2000-10-16 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller

Hello Herbert,

Thank you very much for your instructions to modify the miniscript:
 
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1"1.aux"
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1"2.aux"
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1"3.aux"
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1"4.aux"
 ... usw

Now the script works excellent and everything is fine -- bibtopic works
with LyX !!!

I modified the script by myself a little bit:

1.) I added a bibtex run without the bibtopic extensions (on file.aux without
the numerical extensions), so that the script can handle other files with
"normal" bibliographies (without the use of bibtopic). I tested the script with
non-bibtopic files and there were no problems. Bibtopic by itself suppresses
the standard bibliography environment (it doesn't use file.aux)

2.) I left the ".aux" extensions, because you don't need them.

So the miniscript to use bibtopic with LyX (saved as "bibtex" in ~/bin) looks
like this (for four bibliography topics):

#!/bin/bash
/usr/bin/bibtex $1%% -- starts bibtex file
/usr/bin/bibtex $1"1"%% -- starts bibtex file1
/usr/bin/bibtex $1"2"%% -- starts bibtex file2
/usr/bin/bibtex $1"3"%% -- ...
/usr/bin/bibtex $1"4"

Well. I'm very grateful to your help - Thanks again!
Now I don't have to miss LyX --- by far the best document processing tool I ever
used --- for my work :-)

Best wishes,

Juergen.

P.S.: I changed to English again and added some explains about our discussion,
because I sent a copy to the LyX mailing list --- maybe there will be other
users who want to use the excellent bibtopic package for their bibliography. 



Re: Using bibtopic.sty with LyX?

2000-10-16 Thread Herbert Voss

"Jürgen Spitzmüller" wrote:

 So the miniscript to use bibtopic with LyX (saved as "bibtex" in ~/bin) looks
 like this (for four bibliography topics):
 
 #!/bin/bash
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1%% -- starts bibtex file
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1"1"%% -- starts bibtex file1
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1"2"%% -- starts bibtex file2
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1"3"%% -- ...
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1"4"

try the following script. it looks for all files with fileNR.aux
and starts bibtex, so you don't have to know how many bib-files
you have.


#!/bin/bash
/usr/bin/bibtex $1   # -- starts bibtex file.aux
NEXT=1
FILE=$1$NEXT
while [ -a $FILE.aux ]; do
  /usr/bin/bibtex $FILE  # -- starts bibtex fileNR.aux
  NEXT=$(($NEXT+1))
  FILE=$1$NEXT;
done




Herbert

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://perce.de/lyx/



Re: Using bibtopic.sty with LyX?

2000-10-16 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller

Herbert Voss wrote:

 try the following script. it looks for all files with fileNR.aux
 and starts bibtex, so you don't have to know how many bib-files
 you have.
 
 
 #!/bin/bash
 /usr/bin/bibtex $1   # -- starts bibtex file.aux
 NEXT=1
 FILE=$1$NEXT
 while [ -a $FILE.aux ]; do
   /usr/bin/bibtex $FILE  # -- starts bibtex fileNR.aux
   NEXT=$(($NEXT+1))
   FILE=$1$NEXT;
 done

Hello Herbert,

Your new script is, of course, much more effective than the previous one.
I tested it with both bibtopic and non bibtopic using LyX-files. It works with
no problems. Now it is usable for anyone who wants to produce a splitted
bibliography with LyX and the bibtopic-package, which is really very powerful
(it is fully compatible with natbib and one more feature is the possibility to
produce different bibliographies for chapters (like chapterbib) or seperate
topics for not-cited literature).

My experiences (in the arts, the human sciences) are, that splitting
bibliographies is a thing which can't be missed in a lot of 
sciences (e.g. in historiography, you have to split your bibliography into
at least two topics: sources and literature; the same in literary studies:
primary and secondary literature).
So I think, it is really a pitty, that LyX doesn't support this possibility by
itself (apart from this, it is by far the best document processing tool, as I
wrote before - I don't want to miss it).
Your script shows, that it is very easy to make LyX compatible with bibtopic,
which solves the problem.
I think, it would be a good idea to implement your script (or something like
this) to coming LyX versions - to make LyX even more powerful!

What do you think about it?

Greetings and thanks,

Juergen.



Re: Using bibtopic.sty with LyX?

2000-10-16 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller

Hello Herbert,

Thank you very much for your instructions to modify the miniscript:
 
> /usr/bin/bibtex $1"1.aux"
> /usr/bin/bibtex $1"2.aux"
> /usr/bin/bibtex $1"3.aux"
> /usr/bin/bibtex $1"4.aux"
> ... usw

Now the script works excellent and everything is fine -- bibtopic works
with LyX !!!

I modified the script by myself a little bit:

1.) I added a bibtex run without the bibtopic extensions (on file.aux without
the numerical extensions), so that the script can handle other files with
"normal" bibliographies (without the use of bibtopic). I tested the script with
non-bibtopic files and there were no problems. Bibtopic by itself suppresses
the standard bibliography environment (it doesn't use file.aux)

2.) I left the ".aux" extensions, because you don't need them.

So the miniscript to use bibtopic with LyX (saved as "bibtex" in ~/bin) looks
like this (for four bibliography topics):

#!/bin/bash
/usr/bin/bibtex $1%% -- starts bibtex 
/usr/bin/bibtex $1"1"%% -- starts bibtex 
/usr/bin/bibtex $1"2"%% -- starts bibtex 
/usr/bin/bibtex $1"3"%% -- ...
/usr/bin/bibtex $1"4"

Well. I'm very grateful to your help - Thanks again!
Now I don't have to miss LyX --- by far the best document processing tool I ever
used --- for my work :-)

Best wishes,

Juergen.

P.S.: I changed to English again and added some explains about our discussion,
because I sent a copy to the LyX mailing list --- maybe there will be other
users who want to use the excellent bibtopic package for their bibliography. 



Re: Using bibtopic.sty with LyX?

2000-10-16 Thread Herbert Voss

"Jürgen Spitzmüller" wrote:

> So the miniscript to use bibtopic with LyX (saved as "bibtex" in ~/bin) looks
> like this (for four bibliography topics):
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> /usr/bin/bibtex $1%% -- starts bibtex 
> /usr/bin/bibtex $1"1"%% -- starts bibtex 
> /usr/bin/bibtex $1"2"%% -- starts bibtex 
> /usr/bin/bibtex $1"3"%% -- ...
> /usr/bin/bibtex $1"4"

try the following script. it looks for all files with fileNR.aux
and starts bibtex, so you don't have to know how many bib-files
you have.


#!/bin/bash
/usr/bin/bibtex $1   # -- starts bibtex 
NEXT=1
FILE=$1$NEXT
while [ -a $FILE.aux ]; do
  /usr/bin/bibtex $FILE  # -- starts bibtex 
  NEXT=$(($NEXT+1))
  FILE=$1$NEXT;
done




Herbert

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://perce.de/lyx/



Re: Using bibtopic.sty with LyX?

2000-10-16 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller

Herbert Voss wrote:

> try the following script. it looks for all files with fileNR.aux
> and starts bibtex, so you don't have to know how many bib-files
> you have.
> 
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> /usr/bin/bibtex $1   # -- starts bibtex 
> NEXT=1
> FILE=$1$NEXT
> while [ -a $FILE.aux ]; do
>   /usr/bin/bibtex $FILE  # -- starts bibtex 
>   NEXT=$(($NEXT+1))
>   FILE=$1$NEXT;
> done

Hello Herbert,

Your new script is, of course, much more effective than the previous one.
I tested it with both bibtopic and non bibtopic using LyX-files. It works with
no problems. Now it is usable for anyone who wants to produce a splitted
bibliography with LyX and the bibtopic-package, which is really very powerful
(it is fully compatible with natbib and one more feature is the possibility to
produce different bibliographies for chapters (like chapterbib) or seperate
topics for not-cited literature).

My experiences (in the arts, the human sciences) are, that splitting
bibliographies is a thing which can't be missed in a lot of 
sciences (e.g. in historiography, you have to split your bibliography into
at least two topics: sources and literature; the same in literary studies:
primary and secondary literature).
So I think, it is really a pitty, that LyX doesn't support this possibility by
itself (apart from this, it is by far the best document processing tool, as I
wrote before - I don't want to miss it).
Your script shows, that it is very easy to make LyX compatible with bibtopic,
which solves the problem.
I think, it would be a good idea to implement your script (or something like
this) to coming LyX versions - to make LyX even more powerful!

What do you think about it?

Greetings and thanks,

Juergen.