Re: p5-getopt-long and perl5.8 - activation error

2008-02-06 Thread N_Ox
Le 5 févr. 08 à 16:13, Daniel J. Luke a écrit : snip/ We really need to do one of a couple of things: - Change the perl port to install a minimum perl along with individual ports for each of the CORE modules - Change the @INC ordering (thus making our perl act differently from the

Re: Is HFS really scary?

2008-02-06 Thread David Corking
He is known for exaggeration. He once called all C++ programmers unspeakable names on a mailing list. However if you like his designs, there is an ext2 fs driver for Mac OS X! I personally am I bit frustrated with HFS+, as I experienced first-hand the limits of its fsck utility (*). But I am

Re: Is HFS really scary?

2008-02-06 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg
On Feb 6, 2008, at 7:17 AM, David Corking wrote: He is known for exaggeration. He once called all C++ programmers unspeakable names on a mailing list. It's also worth noting that scary can mean I don't understanding it. While I think it is a mistake to try to micro-analyze everything

Re: p5-getopt-long and perl5.8 - activation error

2008-02-06 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Feb 6, 2008, at 4:49 AM, N_Ox wrote: Le 5 févr. 08 à 16:13, Daniel J. Luke a écrit : We really need to do one of a couple of things: - Change the perl port to install a minimum perl along with individual ports for each of the CORE modules - Change the @INC ordering (thus making our perl

Re: p5-getopt-long and perl5.8 - activation error

2008-02-06 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Feb 5, 2008, at 9:01 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2008-02-05 10:13:03 -0500, Daniel J. Luke wrote: svk requires newer versions of CORE modules than those that ship with perl5.8 This is strange because I don't see dependencies on particular versions in svk. Well, if the svk authors used

Re: p5-getopt-long and perl5.8 - activation error

2008-02-06 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Feb 6, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Matthew Ross wrote: Why don't we leave the @INC in the order it is now so we don't break current perl ports and use the APPLLIB_EXP option like FreeBSD does? If we decide to change @INC this is probably the best way to do it. Call it whatever you like... If we

Re: Bugs in gtk2

2008-02-06 Thread N_Ox
Le 6 févr. 08 à 14:35, Jürgen Dabel a écrit : Hallo, I get the following message: bash-3.2$ sudo port install gtk2 Password: --- Verifying checksum(s) for libxml2 Error: Checksum (md5) mismatch for libxml2-2.6.30.tar.gz Error: Checksum (sha1) mismatch for libxml2-2.6.30.tar.gz Error:

Re: Is HFS really scary?

2008-02-06 Thread paul beard
On Feb 6, 2008 5:17 AM, David Corking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He is known for exaggeration. He once called all C++ programmers unspeakable names on a mailing list. However if you like his designs, there is an ext2 fs driver for Mac OS X! I personally am I bit frustrated with HFS+, as I

Re: Executing scripts during configure

2008-02-06 Thread N_Ox
Le 6 févr. 08 à 14:04, Michael Franz a écrit : On Feb 6, 2008 2:07 AM, N_Ox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 6 févr. 08 à 08:01, Ryan Schmidt a écrit : snip/ It would probably be: set libgcj [exec find ${prefix}/share/java -name libgcj-4\.2*.jar] (unless you use fs-traverse like Daniel

Re: p5-getopt-long and perl5.8 - activation error

2008-02-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2008-02-06 10:40:30 -0500, Daniel J. Luke wrote: On Feb 5, 2008, at 9:01 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2008-02-05 10:13:03 -0500, Daniel J. Luke wrote: svk requires newer versions of CORE modules than those that ship with perl5.8 This is strange because I don't see dependencies on

Re: Is HFS really scary?

2008-02-06 Thread Peter O'Gorman
paul beard wrote: [OT] I use FreeBSD and like it just fine: in fact that's one of the reason I use [Mac|Darwin]Ports. fink was fine but once it became a leaderless mob, I left. [/OT] This kind of crap does not encourage me to help out on this list. Peter -- Peter O'Gorman

macports installation vs 10.5.1/Xcode 3.0?

2008-02-06 Thread Lloyd Wood
Hi, I'm having trouble installing macports on a Leopard 10.5.1 Santa Rosa Macbook with Xcode 3.0. I've run the binary installer (1.6) multiple times. It takes ages on the 'completing install' stage, but eventually does seem to complete with a green tick. I've also tried the tarball, which

Re: p5-getopt-long and perl5.8 - activation error

2008-02-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2008-02-06 18:29:21 +0100, N_Ox wrote: Le 6 févr. 08 à 18:12, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : The point is that the end user already needs to change his $PATH. So, this wouldn't be a big difference. I don't see any kind of link with $PATH here. No-one complained that users have to modify their

Re: p5-getopt-long and perl5.8 - activation error

2008-02-06 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Feb 6, 2008, at 12:45 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: I don't see any kind of link with $PATH here. No-one complained that users have to modify their $PATH. With $PERL5LIB, this is the same thing. We attempt to automatically modify users' $PATH with the installer. -- Daniel J. Luke

Re: libIDL woes

2008-02-06 Thread paul beard
On Feb 5, 2008 6:14 PM, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem has not been worked around. The bug is still open: http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/ticket/14144 The problems that were worked around were the unable to infer tagged configuration bug affecting apache2,

[OT] Re: Is HFS really scary?

2008-02-06 Thread David Corking
Peter wrote: I use FreeBSD and like it just fine: in fact that's one of the reason I fink was fine but once it became a leaderless mob, I left. [/OT] This kind of crap does not encourage me to help out on this list. Lets be nice to the fink folks (I mean it. Darwin and OS X - not to

Re: Is HFS really scary?

2008-02-06 Thread Scott C. Kennedy
But, then you have to deal with lazy developers QA issues like... * Microsoft Office 2004 Entourage can't understand timezone when using sync services 1. cd /Applications/Microsoft Office 2004/Office (or the appropriately situated place on your machine) 2. ln

Re: Is HFS really scary?

2008-02-06 Thread James Sumners
These things would probably get fixed Macs shipped with the case sensitive filesystem installed. Personally, I was quite surprised that the filesystem was case insensitive when I got my first Mac (a PowerBook three years ago). On Feb 6, 2008 2:31 PM, Jordan K. Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: libtool and ImageMagick problems

2008-02-06 Thread Peter O'Gorman
Jochem Huhmann wrote: On 2008-02-04, at 14:21, Ryan Schmidt wrote: I would like to get it resolved too. Could I ask you to please file a ticket in our issue tracker and assign it to me? I'll see what I can do. Thanks, I did that a few moments ago (#14195). I've also attached the output

Re: Is HFS really scary?

2008-02-06 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
That's probably never going to happen. When you're dealing with grandma on the phone and she's saying I can't open my file named ``fluffy!'', the last thing you need is to go 10 rounds trying to figure out whether she actually named it Fluffy, fluffY or FlUFfY. That is why case

Re: Is HFS really scary?

2008-02-06 Thread James Sumners
Fair enough. But if grandma is using a mouse is it really a problem? On Feb 6, 2008 3:13 PM, Jordan K. Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's probably never going to happen. When you're dealing with grandma on the phone and she's saying I can't open my file named ``fluffy!'', the last thing

Re: I think I've found a bug in configure for help2man, but would like to verify

2008-02-06 Thread Omar Green
I''ve entered in a bug for this now, bug #14213. Set the priority to normal, and I have no idea how you guys prioritize. Thanks a bunch, Anders for the swift reply. Guess, for now I'll have to get the install of Ruby done manually. Best, -O Anders F Björklund wrote: Omar Green wrote:

Re: I think I've found a bug in configure for help2man, but would like to verify

2008-02-06 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 6, 2008, at 15:27, Omar Green wrote: Anders F Björklund wrote: Omar Green wrote: I wouldn't have necessarily thought this was a bug (maybe double referencing CC is just how you guys roll), but I stumbled on a different bug while Googling around trying to diagnose the

Re: p5-getopt-long and perl5.8 - activation error

2008-02-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2008-02-06 12:52:45 -0500, Daniel J. Luke wrote: On Feb 6, 2008, at 12:45 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: No-one complained that users have to modify their $PATH. With $PERL5LIB, this is the same thing. We attempt to automatically modify users' $PATH with the installer. In a similar way, you

Re: libIDL woes

2008-02-06 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 6, 2008, at 19:12, David Rowe wrote: Ryan Schmidt wrote: The libidl bug is a different and unrelated bug. libidl is unmaintained so someone will have to volunteer to figure out what's breaking, and how to fix it. Actually, Tod Morrison just posted in the bug that he found a

Patching configure - Or Not

2008-02-06 Thread Michael Franz
Hi, I need to change the way configure works for a port. Is it better to patch configure or change the underlying files and regenerate configure? In this case I have a change to acinclude.m4. To get everything updated I need to run aclocal, automake and autoconf. Since I cannot figure out how

Re: Is HFS really scary?

2008-02-06 Thread Tabitha McNerney
On 2/6/08, Jordan K. Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's probably never going to happen. When you're dealing with grandma on the phone and she's saying I can't open my file named ``fluffy!'', the last thing you need is to go 10 rounds trying to figure out whether she actually named it

Re: Is HFS really scary?

2008-02-06 Thread Tabitha McNerney
On 2/6/08, Emmanuel Hainry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Citando Jordan K. Hubbard : On Feb 6, 2008, at 11:37 AM, James Sumners wrote: These things would probably get fixed Macs shipped with the case sensitive filesystem installed. Personally, I was quite surprised that the filesystem was

Question re Ticket #14090 (Portfile diff for maven 2.0.8)

2008-02-06 Thread Brian Forte
Gentlefolk, quick question from a new-comer. Is there a timetable for the closing of this ticket: http://trac.macports.org/projects/macports/ticket/14090? We're writing a 'how to' for installing maven (and a maven plugin, but that's not germain here) on a range of OSes and the OS X