Re: yosemite and 2008/9 macbookpro compatability, macports install settings for older architecture?

2015-05-28 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Thu, 28 May 2015, Ryan Schmidt wrote: No; the MacPorts default build_arch is x86_64 on Yosemite, but the user can override it by changing build_arch to i386 in macports.conf. In this case, the user probably didn't meant to do that, he just imported a pre-Snow Leopard Intel MacPorts

Re: yosemite and 2008/9 macbookpro compatability, macports install settings for older architecture?

2015-05-28 Thread ^. .^
ok. so it works now. i did 2 things. first i set the universal to also include x86_64 tried again and no luck then i went through the entire migration steps and now i'm up and running. i hadn't installed macports in my last 2 os upgrades so i wasn't thinking i had to migrate. but i guess it was

Re: `port -pf upgrade outdated` is incredibly unsafe ??

2015-05-28 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On May 28, 2015, at 2:47 PM, René J.V. Bertin rjvber...@gmail.com wrote: It should be safe to build ports that do not depend directly on a failed port, but it seems not impossible that the ABI-changing effect of the update of an indirect dependency permeates to a direct dependency. I would

Re: `port -pf upgrade outdated` is incredibly unsafe ??

2015-05-28 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
End users probably don't read the man pages to even know these flags exist. We're left wondering how and why you're even using them. -p Despite any errors encountered, proceed to process multiple ports and com- mands. -f force mode (ignore state file) Do

Re: `port -pf upgrade outdated` is incredibly unsafe ??

2015-05-28 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Thursday May 28 2015 19:54:27 Kurt Pfeifle wrote: I've seen the upgrade of 200+ packages stopping just because one of the first five package upgrade fails. So have I, but I rarely if ever use even -p when I do launch a bunch of updates. I rather tend to isolate the ones I know will be

Re: `port -pf upgrade outdated` is incredibly unsafe ??

2015-05-28 Thread Kurt Pfeifle
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Jeremy Lavergne jer...@lavergne.gotdns.org wrote: End users probably don't read the man pages to even know these flags exist. That's what I already hinted at in my last mail. We're left wondering how and why you're even using them. -p Despite

Re: `port -pf upgrade outdated` is incredibly unsafe ??

2015-05-28 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On May 28, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Kurt Pfeifle kurt.pfei...@googlemail.com wrote: Ok then: which one of the two switches is the unsafe one? I guess the -f? Or has the combination of the two even more damage potential? They're both unsafe. -f does different things depending on the build phase, but

`port -pf upgrade outdated` is incredibly unsafe ??

2015-05-28 Thread Kurt Pfeifle
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:54 PM, Lawrence Velázquez lar...@macports.org wrote: On May 27, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Kurt Pfeifle kurt.pfei...@googlemail.com wrote: [] girara was updated an hour ago. Please run a selfupdate and try upgrading again. Thanks, it works now. P.S. Unrelated: Stop

Re: yosemite and 2008/9 macbookpro compatability, macports install settings for older architecture?

2015-05-28 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Thursday May 28 2015 13:33:45 Lawrence Velázquez wrote: On May 28, 2015, at 1:01 PM, René J.V. Bertin rjvber...@gmail.com wrote: OP is on Yosemite. MacPorts defaults to x86_64 builds on Yosemite. even if build_arch is set to i386 only, as was the case for him? Isn't that a bug? R

Re: yosemite and 2008/9 macbookpro compatability, macports install settings for older architecture?

2015-05-28 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On May 28, 2015, at 1:01 PM, René J.V. Bertin rjvber...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday May 28 2015 12:42:20 Lawrence Velázquez wrote: So the OP is trying to build ImageMagick x86_64. Are there ways to that other than requesting a +universal build of it, or of another port which has

Re: `port -pf upgrade outdated` is incredibly unsafe ??

2015-05-28 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
I'm confused about the purpose of the thread. The documentation indicates why what you're doing is a bad thing. You should just run random commands without knowing what they do. To quote IRC: things break so often that i decided that the best course of action was to ignore the breakage It

Re: zlib acceleration?

2015-05-28 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Thursday May 28 2015 00:14:14 Ryan Schmidt wrote: Instead of trying to add a patch for this to MacPorts, I would rather you work with the developers of zlib on including the changes into zlib itself When the Phoronix article was written, this was being discussed on the zlib ML and that's

Re: Cleaning MacPorts from old (unused) ports versions

2015-05-28 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On May 28, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:20 AM, Brandon Allbery wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:10 PM, Gustavo Seabra wrote: So, there were 4 (!) versions of grace installed! That should be remnants of old MacPorts installations. I suppose similar

Re: zlib acceleration?

2015-05-28 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On May 28, 2015, at 3:30 AM, René J.V. Bertin wrote: On Thursday May 28 2015 00:14:14 Ryan Schmidt wrote: Instead of trying to add a patch for this to MacPorts, I would rather you work with the developers of zlib on including the changes into zlib itself When the Phoronix article was

RE: Backing up MacPorts directories

2015-05-28 Thread Steve Holden
-Original Message- From: Ryan Schmidt [mailto:ryandes...@macports.org] Sent: 26 May 2015 20:33 To: Larry Velázquez Cc: Steve Holden; MacPorts Users Subject: Re: Backing up MacPorts directories On May 26, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: On May 26, 2015, at 7:11 AM,

Re: zlib acceleration?

2015-05-28 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Thursday May 28 2015 04:43:28 Ryan Schmidt wrote: I'm not comfortable with making MacPorts users involuntary testers for unofficial code in a fundamental library like zlib. Not on an obligatory basis, no, not until we can show that there are no drawbacks to it. I plan to add a variant to

yosemite and 2008/9 macbookpro compatability, macports install settings for older architecture?

2015-05-28 Thread ^. .^
hey all, i recently upgraded a late 2008 macbookpro to yosemite. with SSD it seems to work ok. when running macports to install software i get the following error quote Error: Cannot install ImageMagick for the arch(s) 'x86_64' because Error: its dependency libtool is only installed for the

Re: yosemite and 2008/9 macbookpro compatability, macports install settings for older architecture?

2015-05-28 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Thursday May 28 2015 09:16:46 ^. .^ wrote: i recently upgraded a late 2008 macbookpro to yosemite. with SSD it seems Does it have a 64bit processor? quote Error: Cannot install ImageMagick for the arch(s) 'x86_64' because Error: its dependency libtool is only installed for the arch 'i386'

Re: yosemite and 2008/9 macbookpro compatability, macports install settings for older architecture?

2015-05-28 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Thursday May 28 2015 11:02:08 Lawrence Velázquez wrote: You may have to edit macports.conf again and set universal_archs x86_64 i386. Was he doing a universal build? ImageMagick doesn't have +universal as a default variant, so I don't see why one would need universal_archs if one just wants

Re: yosemite and 2008/9 macbookpro compatability, macports install settings for older architecture?

2015-05-28 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On May 28, 2015, at 9:16 AM, ^. .^ sixmilliondollar...@gmail.com wrote: when running macports to install software i get the following error quote Error: Cannot install ImageMagick for the arch(s) 'x86_64' because Error: its dependency libtool is only installed for the arch 'i386'

Re: yosemite and 2008/9 macbookpro compatability, macports install settings for older architecture?

2015-05-28 Thread Rainer Müller
On 2015-05-28 15:16, ^. .^ wrote: i recently upgraded a late 2008 macbookpro to yosemite. with SSD it seems to work ok. Did you follow the migration procedure? http://trac.macports.org/wiki/Migration when running macports to install software i get the following error quote Error: Cannot

Re: yosemite and 2008/9 macbookpro compatability, macports install settings for older architecture?

2015-05-28 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On May 28, 2015, at 11:22 AM, René J.V. Bertin rjvber...@gmail.com wrote: Was he doing a universal build? ImageMagick doesn't have +universal as a default variant, so I don't see why one would need universal_archs if one just wants or needs to build the entire tree in 32bit mode ...

Re: yosemite and 2008/9 macbookpro compatability, macports install settings for older architecture?

2015-05-28 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Thursday May 28 2015 12:42:20 Lawrence Velázquez wrote: So the OP is trying to build ImageMagick x86_64. Are there ways to that other than requesting a +universal build of it, or of another port which has ImageMagick as its first dependency? I must have assumed that the OP would have found