Re: g95 suggestion

2014-02-15 Thread Christopher Jones
redistribute copies of GNU Fortran under the terms of the GNU General Public License. For more information about these matters, see the file named COPYINGOn 15 Feb 2014, at 2:14pm, io paolodamess...@libero.it wrote: Dear CRJ, thanks for suggestion. However, I am only an unexperienced final

Re: Suggestion: Time to Use Trello?

2013-06-28 Thread Sean Farley
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Rainer Müller rai...@macports.org wrote: On 2013-06-26 13:19, Rodolfo Aramayo wrote: Many projects out there are transitioning to trello https://trello.com/ What the heck does it do? The website tells me something about organizing things. There seems to be

Suggestion: Time to Use Trello?

2013-06-26 Thread Rodolfo Aramayo
People, Many projects out there are transitioning to trello https://trello.com/ I can see how this could help some aspects of MacPorts (not necessarily replace the great web site we already have...) Just a suggestion... --R ___ macports-users

Re: Suggestion: Time to Use Trello?

2013-06-26 Thread Rainer Müller
On 2013-06-26 13:19, Rodolfo Aramayo wrote: Many projects out there are transitioning to trello https://trello.com/ What the heck does it do? The website tells me something about organizing things. There seems to be an app, but also a web page, so is it a service? Sorry, but I am unable to

Re: Suggestion: Time to Use Trello?

2013-06-26 Thread William H. Magill
On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Rainer Müller rai...@macports.org wrote: On 2013-06-26 13:19, Rodolfo Aramayo wrote: Many projects out there are transitioning to trello https://trello.com/ What the heck does it do? The website tells me something about organizing things. There seems to be

Re: Suggestion: Time to Use Trello?

2013-06-26 Thread Sam Kuper
On Jun 26, 2013 12:20 PM, Rodolfo Aramayo raram...@gmail.com wrote: People, Shill? Many projects out there are transitioning to trello https://trello.com/ [...] Just a suggestion... An appalling suggestion, because Trello is not libre, and cannot even be self-hosted by the Macports

Re: Suggestion: Time to Use Trello?

2013-06-26 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Sam Kuper sam.ku...@uclmail.net wrote: On Jun 26, 2013 12:20 PM, Rodolfo Aramayo raram...@gmail.com wrote: People, Shill? Scattershot spam. :/ -- brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine associates allber...@gmail.com

Re: Suggestion

2013-06-13 Thread Jan Stary
On Jun 11 07:53:22, pixi...@macports.org wrote: On Jun 11, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Jan Stary wrote: On May 28 21:36:58, jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote: Hi, On 28 May 2013, at 08:12 PM, Jean-François Caron jfca...@phas.ubc.ca wrote: While download statistics might not be a good

Apache2 and PortHier (was Re: Suggestion)

2013-06-13 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
${prefix}/apache2 isn't standard hierarchy. The gist of it being either we update the hierarchy or we move the files around. On Jun 13, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Jan Stary wrote: moving apache2 install files to conform to porthier. What does that mean, speicifically? Is there a problem with the

Re: suggestion

2013-06-13 Thread James Linder
On 14/06/2013, at 3:00 AM, macports-users-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote: While download statistics might not be a good system, I do concur that MacPorts very much would benefit from having a discovery mechanism by which users find out about useful ports. Searching is nice, but it's

Re: Suggestion

2013-06-11 Thread Jan Stary
IIRC. For non-end-users, it would also inform port maintainers about how many people depend on their work. Jean-François Begin forwarded message: Re: Suggestion ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org

Re: Suggestion

2013-06-11 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Bradley Giesbrecht pixi...@macports.org wrote: On Jun 11, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Jan Stary wrote: On May 28 21:36:58, jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote: Hi, On 28 May 2013, at 08:12 PM, Jean-François Caron jfca...@phas.ubc.ca wrote: While download statistics

Re: Suggestion

2013-06-11 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
Clearly, the statistics can be used many different ways. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users

Re: Suggestion

2013-06-11 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
On Jun 11, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Jan Stary wrote: On May 28 21:36:58, jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote: Hi, On 28 May 2013, at 08:12 PM, Jean-François Caron jfca...@phas.ubc.ca wrote: While download statistics might not be a good system, I do concur that MacPorts very much would benefit from

Re: Suggestion

2013-05-29 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On May 28, 2013, at 19:46, Craig Treleaven wrote: At 5:26 PM -0500 5/28/13, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On May 28, 2013, at 17:17, Chris Jones wrote: On 28 May 2013, at 10:59 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On May 28, 2013, at 16:56, Craig Treleaven wrote: I'd like to know that a port has been

Re: Suggestion

2013-05-29 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
On May 29, 2013, at 6:04 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On May 28, 2013, at 19:46, Craig Treleaven wrote: At 5:26 PM -0500 5/28/13, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On May 28, 2013, at 17:17, Chris Jones wrote: On 28 May 2013, at 10:59 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On May 28, 2013, at 16:56, Craig Treleaven wrote:

Re: Suggestion

2013-05-28 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On May 27, 2013, at 21:41, Dan Aldrich wrote: I was thinking more of an interface like what sourceforge offers. Recommendations and number of d/l's a week. The comments make it sound like more trouble than it's worth. Sourceforge tracks downloads per file, so if you want that information

Re: Suggestion

2013-05-28 Thread Jean-François Caron
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Re: Suggestion

2013-05-28 Thread Chris Jones
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Re: Suggestion

2013-05-28 Thread Stephen Rasku
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Chris Jones jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.ukwrote: Hi, On 28 May 2013, at 08:12 PM, Jean-François Caron jfca...@phas.ubc.ca wrote: While download statistics might not be a good system, I do concur that MacPorts very much would benefit from having a discovery

Re: Suggestion

2013-05-28 Thread Chris Jones
Hi, On 28 May 2013, at 10:14 PM, Stephen Rasku macpo...@srasku.net wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Chris Jones jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote: Hi, On 28 May 2013, at 08:12 PM, Jean-François Caron jfca...@phas.ubc.ca wrote: While download statistics might not be a good system, I

Re: Suggestion

2013-05-28 Thread Craig Treleaven
Please excuse typos--sent from my iPhone. On 2013-05-28, at 5:35 PM, Chris Jones jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote: Hi, On 28 May 2013, at 10:14 PM, Stephen Rasku macpo...@srasku.net wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Chris Jones jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote: Hi, On 28 May

Re: Suggestion

2013-05-28 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On May 28, 2013, at 16:56, Craig Treleaven wrote: I'd like to know that a port has been successfully installed, recently. IOW that it hasn't suffered bitrot! To some degree, you can answer that already, by checking if there is a recent package on the packages server. To answer it with

Re: Suggestion

2013-05-28 Thread Chris Jones
Hi, On 28 May 2013, at 10:59 PM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.org wrote: On May 28, 2013, at 16:56, Craig Treleaven wrote: I'd like to know that a port has been successfully installed, recently. IOW that it hasn't suffered bitrot! To some degree, you can answer that already, by

Re: Suggestion

2013-05-28 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On May 28, 2013, at 17:17, Chris Jones wrote: On 28 May 2013, at 10:59 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On May 28, 2013, at 16:56, Craig Treleaven wrote: I'd like to know that a port has been successfully installed, recently. IOW that it hasn't suffered bitrot! To some degree, you can answer

Re: Suggestion

2013-05-28 Thread Ian Wadham
On 29/05/2013, at 6:36 AM, Chris Jones wrote: What would help users i think would be to have a much better search/browsing interface, to allow them to browse available ports. Yes indeed. It is hard to see the wood for the trees. I did some investigation on this recently with a view to

Re: Suggestion

2013-05-28 Thread William H. Magill
On May 28, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote: If I picked a fairly specific string, such as quantum or jigsaw, I got quite good results, as long as I searched the Full Description as well as the Description (which apparently port search does not do by default).

Re: Suggestion

2013-05-28 Thread Craig Treleaven
At 5:26 PM -0500 5/28/13, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On May 28, 2013, at 17:17, Chris Jones wrote: On 28 May 2013, at 10:59 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On May 28, 2013, at 16:56, Craig Treleaven wrote: I'd like to know that a port has been successfully installed, recently. IOW that it hasn't

Suggestion

2013-05-27 Thread Dan Aldrich
How about adding the number of downloads/updates to the port files list on the web page? Lets you see how active a particular port is when searching for a particular app. -d ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org

Re: Suggestion

2013-05-27 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On May 27, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Dan Aldrich daldr...@earthlink.net wrote: How about adding the number of downloads/updates to the port files list on the web page? Lets you see how active a particular port is when searching for a particular app. Downloads of what? Portfiles? Distfiles? How

Re: Suggestion

2013-05-27 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On May 27, 2013, at 11:46, Dan Aldrich wrote: How about adding the number of downloads/updates to the port files list on the web page? Lets you see how active a particular port is when searching for a particular app. While gathering statistics, and then creating a way of displaying that

Re: Suggestion

2013-05-27 Thread Dan Aldrich
I was thinking more of an interface like what sourceforge offers. Recommendations and number of d/l's a week. The comments make it sound like more trouble than it's worth. -d At 03:28 PM 5/27/2013, you wrote: Are we wanting to track this information in order to gauge popularity of ports? If

Re: suggestion/feature request for Portfile: assert PortSystem comes first

2013-04-12 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Roger Pack rogerdpa...@gmail.com wrote: Suggestion/feature request: it would be nice to spit out a warning or error message that supplemented this particular error message, for instance warning: Portfile started without a PortSystem declaration for its first

Re: suggestion/feature request for Portfile: assert PortSystem comes first

2013-04-12 Thread Clemens Lang
Hi, On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 08:33:37AM -0400, Brandon Allbery wrote: This would be somewhat difficult, as before the PortSystem line all the PortFile is is raw Tcl code. It doesn't know that it should be warning about commands defined by PortSystem. while this is true, we could still define a

Re: suggestion/feature request for Portfile: assert PortSystem comes first

2013-04-12 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Apr 12, 2013, at 09:44, Clemens Lang wrote: On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 08:33:37AM -0400, Brandon Allbery wrote: This would be somewhat difficult, as before the PortSystem line all the PortFile is is raw Tcl code. It doesn't know that it should be warning about commands defined by PortSystem.

Re: suggestion/feature request for Portfile: assert PortSystem comes first

2013-04-12 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Apr 12, 2013, at 00:16, Roger Pack wrote: Also as a further note, on this page: http://guide.macports.org/ section 5.1 Perhaps it should say PortSystem: The top (non comment) line of every Portfile; instead of the current: PortSystem The top line of every Portfile; (the

suggestion/feature request for Portfile: assert PortSystem comes first

2013-04-11 Thread Roger Pack
failure here--I put it *before* the PortSystem line). Suggestion/feature request: it would be nice to spit out a warning or error message that supplemented this particular error message, for instance warning: Portfile started without a PortSystem declaration for its first line then I would have known

suggestion: tweak error messages

2012-08-04 Thread Roger Pack
got this: Error: search for name ffmpeg failed: No index(es) found! Have you synced your source indexes? suggestion/feature request: change it to: Error: search for name ffmpeg failed: No index(es) found! Have you synced your source indexes ( $ port selfupdate might help)? Cheers! -roger

Re: suggestion: tweak error messages

2012-08-04 Thread Clemens Lang
Hi, On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 01:02:27PM -0600, Roger Pack wrote: Error: search for name ffmpeg failed: No index(es) found! Have you synced your source indexes ( $ port selfupdate might help)? http://trac.macports.org/changeset/96213 -- Clemens Lang

Re: suggestion: tweak error messages

2012-08-04 Thread Roger Pack
On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 01:02:27PM -0600, Roger Pack wrote: Error: search for name ffmpeg failed: No index(es) found! Have you synced your source indexes ( $ port selfupdate might help)? http://trac.macports.org/changeset/96213 Great! Thank you. -r

suggestion: libjpeg-turbo

2011-06-23 Thread Roger Pack
Hello. I have no experience in this domain, but thought I'd throw out the idea of using libjpeg-turbo as the default libjpeg dependency, for some added speed where used. That's all. Bye. -roger- ___ macports-users mailing list

Re: suggestion: libjpeg-turbo

2011-06-23 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jun 23, 2011, at 11:50, Roger Pack wrote: Hello. I have no experience in this domain, but thought I'd throw out the idea of using libjpeg-turbo as the default libjpeg dependency, for some added speed where used. I had never heard of libjpeg-turbo and we do not have a port for it. So the

suggestion: better help on install help

2011-05-11 Thread Roger Pack
Hello all. My thought is to propose that this message: $ port help install Usage: install Installs the given ports be changed to this: $ port help install Usage: install Installs the given ports. See also the variants command for options. Feedback? -r

suggestion (avoiding privacy violation, register for Apple Developer Account)

2010-11-12 Thread Sven Aluoor
Hi folks I received the error: Error: db46 requires the Java for Mac OS X development headers. Error: Download the Java Developer Package from: https://connect.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/MemberSite.woa/wa/getSoftware?bundleID=20719 Can you please upload/mirror this

Re: suggestion (avoiding privacy violation, register for Apple Developer Account)

2010-11-12 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Nov 12, 2010, at 12:01, Sven Aluoor wrote: I received the error: Error: db46 requires the Java for Mac OS X development headers. Error: Download the Java Developer Package from: https://connect.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/MemberSite.woa/wa/getSoftware?bundleID=20719 Can you please

Re: suggestion (avoiding privacy violation, register for Apple Developer Account)

2010-11-12 Thread Sven Aluoor
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.org wrote: Can you please upload/mirror this javadeveloper_10.6_10m3261.dmg at MacPorts webserver I don't know whether Apple permits people to redistribute their software in this manner. Please sign up for a developer account

Re: suggestion for 'port outdated' to print a dependency tree

2009-10-13 Thread Perry Lee
Darren Weber wrote: Is it possible to get a txt-based listing of the dependency tree from 'port outdated'? Not from `port outdated`, but you may want to look at port-rdeps - http://svn.macports.org/repository/macports/contrib/port-rdeps/port-rdeps

feature suggestion: instructions for reporting build problems

2009-01-26 Thread John Joseph Bachir
I usually report build problems directly to the maintainer listed in `port info foo`. Recently, one of these maintainers brought it to my attention that it is probably more appropriate to report such things to the Users list, or on trac. I'm not active in the macports community so there is

Re: feature suggestion: instructions for reporting build problems

2009-01-26 Thread Perry Lee
On Jan 26, 2009, at 1:16 PM, John Joseph Bachir wrote: Perhaps such a message should be included in the output of `port info foo`? Something liek Note: if you are having problems building a port, do not contact the maintainer directly-- it is better to first send email to the users list,

Re: feature suggestion: instructions for reporting build problems

2009-01-26 Thread John Joseph Bachir
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Perry Lee pe...@macports.org wrote: I like the idea of a message, though I'd suggest displaying it after a broken configure or broken build phase rather than including it in the output of `port info`. Even better. And now that I think of it -- my problem was

Re: feature suggestion: instructions for reporting build problems

2009-01-26 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jan 26, 2009, at 16:10, John Joseph Bachir wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Perry Lee wrote: I like the idea of a message, though I'd suggest displaying it after a broken configure or broken build phase rather than including it in the output of `port info`. Even better.

Re: MPlayer Port Suggestion

2008-11-21 Thread Eric Cronin
On Nov 20, 2008, at 7:30 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Nov 20, 2008, at 17:38, David Evans wrote: I'm not sure if this is what you had in mind or not, but port ffmpeg is an example of a port that uses svn to fetch a specific revision from a repository (because that's the only way they do

Re: MPlayer Port Suggestion

2008-11-21 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Nov 21, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Eric Cronin wrote: Is using svn.url + svn.tag a recommended approach now? I seem to remember it being discouraged and that a local distfile should be made instead, but maybe that was changed when we dropped support for versions of OS X without a system svn

Re: MPlayer Port Suggestion

2008-11-21 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Nov 21, 2008, at 12:24, Eric Cronin wrote: On Nov 20, 2008, at 7:30 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Nov 20, 2008, at 17:38, David Evans wrote: I'm not sure if this is what you had in mind or not, but port ffmpeg is an example of a port that uses svn to fetch a specific revision from a

MPlayer Port Suggestion

2008-11-20 Thread Altoine Barker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I had discussed with Eric Cronin on this list about using svn source of mplayer to build a port. I did some crash reading on svn and to avoid the pitfalls of committing an update that will break the port, I wondered was it possible to get svn sources

Re: MPlayer Port Suggestion

2008-11-20 Thread Perry Lee
Altoine Barker wrote: I had discussed with Eric Cronin on this list about using svn source of mplayer to build a port. I did some crash reading on svn and to avoid the pitfalls of committing an update that will break the port, I wondered was it possible to get svn sources by changesets? And if

Re: MPlayer Port Suggestion

2008-11-20 Thread Eric Cronin
On Nov 20, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Perry Lee wrote: Altoine Barker wrote: I had discussed with Eric Cronin on this list about using svn source of mplayer to build a port. I did some crash reading on svn and to avoid the pitfalls of committing an update that will break the port, I wondered was it

Re: MPlayer Port Suggestion

2008-11-20 Thread Perry Lee
Eric Cronin wrote: snapshot on our own clock. Finding a good revision to use as a starting point is the first challenge, and then updating the Portfile configure stage to mesh with the options of that snapshot is next. If We might want to start looking from r27675 onward; I believe this was

Re: MPlayer Port Suggestion

2008-11-20 Thread David Evans
On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 16:29 -0600, Altoine Barker wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I had discussed with Eric Cronin on this list about using svn source of mplayer to build a port. I'm not sure if this is what you had in mind or not, but port ffmpeg is an example of a

Re: MPlayer Port Suggestion

2008-11-20 Thread Altoine Barker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thank you for the information, Perry! I am back home and I will begin reading it tonight. - -Altoine Perry Lee wrote: Altoine Barker wrote: I had discussed with Eric Cronin on this list about using svn source of mplayer to build a port. I did

Re: MPlayer Port Suggestion

2008-11-20 Thread Altoine Barker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave, You rock! I am already bringing up both Porfiles to see how much of the code I can use. Thank you. - -Altoine David Evans wrote: On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 16:29 -0600, Altoine Barker wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I had

Re: MPlayer Port Suggestion

2008-11-20 Thread Altoine Barker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alright, now we are getting somewhere. - -Altoine Perry Lee wrote: Eric Cronin wrote: snapshot on our own clock. Finding a good revision to use as a starting point is the first challenge, and then updating the Portfile configure stage to mesh

Re: MPlayer Port Suggestion

2008-11-20 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Nov 20, 2008, at 17:38, David Evans wrote: I'm not sure if this is what you had in mind or not, but port ffmpeg is an example of a port that uses svn to fetch a specific revision from a repository (because that's the only way they do it). Well ffmpeg does it a bit of a weird convoluted

Re: MacPorts' Directory Layout Guideline or suggestion?

2007-08-11 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Aug 10, 2007, at 09:41, js wrote: There are general guidelines in the MacPorts guide (See MacPorts Internals - MacPorts File Hierarchy), but I think it pretty much restates the general Unix guidelines. http://geeklair.net/new_macports_guide/ Why isn't that doc on

Re: MacPorts' Directory Layout Guideline or suggestion?

2007-08-10 Thread js
There are general guidelines in the MacPorts guide (See MacPorts Internals - MacPorts File Hierarchy), but I think it pretty much restates the general Unix guidelines. http://geeklair.net/new_macports_guide/ Why isn't that doc on http://www.macports.org/? and for me it seems thatnot so many

Re: MacPorts' Directory Layout Guideline or suggestion?

2007-08-08 Thread js
PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 5, 2007, at 22:35, Jeff Stubbs wrote: On Aug 5, 2007, at 12:19 PM, js wrote: I'm wondering if there's any guideline or suggestion that MacPorts port creaters should follow. apache2 installs its conf files in /opt/local/apache2/conf but apache's in /opt

Re: MacPorts' Directory Layout Guideline or suggestion?

2007-08-06 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Aug 5, 2007, at 22:35, Jeff Stubbs wrote: On Aug 5, 2007, at 12:19 PM, js wrote: I'm wondering if there's any guideline or suggestion that MacPorts port creaters should follow. apache2 installs its conf files in /opt/local/apache2/conf but apache's in /opt/local/etc/apache/conf

MacPorts' Directory Layout Guideline or suggestion?

2007-08-05 Thread js
Hi list. I'm wondering if there's any guideline or suggestion that MacPorts port creaters should follow. apache2 installs its conf files in /opt/local/apache2/conf but apache's in /opt/local/etc/apache/conf. Is this a bug? or just lack of good guidelines? Thanks

Re: MacPorts' Directory Layout Guideline or suggestion?

2007-08-05 Thread Jeff Stubbs
On Aug 5, 2007, at 12:19 PM, js wrote: I'm wondering if there's any guideline or suggestion that MacPorts port creaters should follow. apache2 installs its conf files in /opt/local/apache2/conf but apache's in /opt/local/etc/apache/conf. Is this a bug? or just lack of good guidelines

Macports dependency build (Suggestion)

2007-07-20 Thread Keith J. Schultz
Hi All, I have noticed that port goes through the dependency list sequentially, and build accordingly. This is actually O.K., but it would be nice I the ports with the most dependants first. This way if any thing happens before the build is complete I can build others. It should