RE: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed

2005-10-27 Thread Devesh.Kothari
Is it possible to have these extra icons and stuff application installable package ??? Br, Devesh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ext Florian Boor Sent: 26 October, 2005 20:32 To: Komulainen Tommi (Nokia-M/Helsinki) Cc:

[maemo-developers] Flasher debs

2005-10-27 Thread Timo Savola
How about providing Debian packages (i386 and powerpc) of the flasher? It would be in line with the recommendation to use Debian or Ubuntu for development with maemo. Or would the (click-through) license prohibit that (or make it unfeasible)? timo ___

Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed

2005-10-27 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hello, I also think this is not a good idea, either be compatible with desktop linux (and pay the price to slow and huge) or not and have the advantage of having a really fast and slim platform - but in my eyes any step between is not really worth the trouble. What are 30kb when you look at GTK2

Re: [maemo-developers] JamVM on 770 (Java)

2005-10-27 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi Fabrício, Your idea is very good. Thanks for the flowers ;-) But there is a similar very good too. Visit www.superwaba.com. I know superwaba and its a cool platform, however since my goal is to implement a J2ME player for the 770 (so the 770 will be able to run the tons of mobile games)

[maemo-developers] Re: Flasher debs

2005-10-27 Thread Ferenc Szekely
ext Timo Savola wrote: How about providing Debian packages (i386 and powerpc) of the flasher? It would be in line with the recommendation to use Debian or Ubuntu for development with maemo. Or would the (click-through) license prohibit that (or make it unfeasible)? yes, it is the license

Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed

2005-10-27 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, My suggestion: Forget about this as long as you don't offer a similar feature to replace the builtin stock icons. My guess would be that Tommi has some long term plan to fix this properly when there's time. :-) It might be a good idea to modify GTK in a way that only the the stock

Re: [maemo-developers] Control Panel / Memory App crash after GPE install.

2005-10-27 Thread Martin Grimme
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 27.10.2005, 11:17 +0200 schrieb Laurent Lieben: after flashing back my device with the actual retail software, i could launch the Memory App flawlessly Thereafter, i reinstalled GPE-TODO / GPE-CONTACT and all belongings libraries. Then, the Memory App from the

Re: [maemo-developers] Control Panel / Memory App crash after GPE install.

2005-10-27 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Grimme wrote: Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 27.10.2005, 11:17 +0200 schrieb Laurent Lieben: after flashing back my device with the actual retail software, i could launch the Memory App flawlessly Thereafter, i reinstalled GPE-TODO /

Superwaba Re: [maemo-developers] JamVM on 770 (Java)

2005-10-27 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Just a warning. SuperWaba is very good but no longer free. Since version 5.x authors invented new business model and started to charge for LGPLed version (approx. 500$ per year). The version they call GPLed is still free but mostly only as in beer and the future is not bright. It works a bit

Re: [maemo-developers] Packet Telephony?

2005-10-27 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Komal Shah wrote: --- Andre Magalhaes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is correct. No other open source telephony apps use GStreamer (that I know of) and it looks like you'd have to hack it to make it work on an n770 and a desktop from the same code

[maemo-developers] Re: can't find system-dbus-socket. How to deal with dbus ?

2005-10-27 Thread Florian Boor
Hello, wang baisheng wrote: I have found it is the dbus that caues the problem. The hildon-navigator can't find /tmp/session-dbus-socket. Now I run /usr/bib/dbus-daemon-1 --session , then the hildon-navigator find the /tmp/seesion-dbus-socket. But it then can't find

[maemo-developers] Success: Network using PC BT Network Access Point

2005-10-27 Thread Ilkka Urtamo
OK thanks to everyone who helped, I now have net using bt NAP. Here is how I did it (everything is by hand, I will try to automatize it later) Host PC: needed: bluez kernel, bluez lib tools,iptables Using typical hcid.conf forwarding ready: iptables -F iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0

Re: [maemo-developers] kernel sources

2005-10-27 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Koen Kooi wrote: Paul Mundt wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 11:31:40AM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote: Any news on the kernel sources? http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/10/12/87 I guess the dev program doesn't count as 'sale' or 'distributing'? Anyway,

Re: [maemo-developers] Success: Network using PC BT Network Access Point

2005-10-27 Thread Johan Hedberg
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005, Ilkka Urtamo wrote: PS. Anyone already working on the NAP support for gwconnect? If not, I could take a look. AFAIK, no. However, I'm not so sure it even makes sense since there's already pand on the system. If you want to have a D-BUS interface for PAN the effort would

Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed

2005-10-27 Thread Tommi Komulainen
Let me reiterate the consequences of removing the builtin stock icons (not items, icons): it has no ill effect on stock menu items or stock buttons (the icon has always been considered optional, see gtk-button-images and gtk-menu-images GtkSettings.) The only places where things might get broken

RE: [maemo-developers] flasher (Linux) doesn't find device

2005-10-27 Thread Karoliina.T.Salminen
Hello, Yes, always start flashing by first turning off the device. Then you connect the usb cable, start flasher with parameters like (whatever you prefer), my usual parameters are: ./flasher -F rootimagename -f --enable-rd-mode --enable-usb-host-mode --set-rd-flags=serial-console and only after

Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed

2005-10-27 Thread Philippe De Swert
Hi, i don't think 30k is worth making it a major pain maintaining applications which support both plain GTK and Hildon UI. But that's my personal opinion. In addition to this you loose a pile of convenient functions to deal with the stock icons. UI guidelines (e.g. the Gnome HIG) suggest to

Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed

2005-10-27 Thread Florian Boor
Hi, Tommi Komulainen wrote: There's probably a more simple solution to make stock icons work well; just add gtk-bold.png and similarly named files in the hicolor icon theme and things should just work. However the current solution works that's a good idea... expecially because you can ship

RE: [maemo-developers] flasher (Linux) doesn't find device

2005-10-27 Thread Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere)
On tor, 2005-10-27 at 14:06 +0200, ext Martin Grimme wrote: Hello, Am Donnerstag, den 27.10.2005, 14:38 +0300 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, always start flashing by first turning off the device. Then you connect the usb cable, start flasher with parameters like (whatever you prefer),

Re: [maemo-developers] flasher (Linux) doesn't find device

2005-10-27 Thread Alexandre Boeglin
Le Jeudi 27 Octobre 2005 13:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : and only after that you switch the device on with the power button. Isn't there also a way to keep the device in usb mode ? I managed this once or twice by pressing and holding the home key while booting, but as soon as I release the

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Flasher debs

2005-10-27 Thread valtteri
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: On Thursday 27 October 2005 10:45, Ferenc Szekely wrote: ext Timo Savola wrote: How about providing Debian packages (i386 and powerpc) of the flasher? yes, it is the license that prohibits us to distribute the tool in a debian repo. we

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Flasher debs

2005-10-27 Thread Timo Savola
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 03:42:04PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: On Thursday 27 October 2005 10:45, Ferenc Szekely wrote: ext Timo Savola wrote: How about providing Debian packages (i386 and powerpc) of the flasher? yes, it is the

Re: Superwaba Re: [maemo-developers] JamVM on 770 (Java)

2005-10-27 Thread Olivier Bornet
Hello, On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 12:09:02PM +0200, Frantisek Dufka wrote: Just a warning. SuperWaba is very good but no longer free. Since version 5.x authors invented new business model and started to charge for LGPLed version (approx. 500$ per year). The version they call GPLed is still

Re: [maemo-developers] kernel sources

2005-10-27 Thread Komal Shah
--- Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Koen Kooi wrote: Paul Mundt wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 11:31:40AM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote: Any news on the kernel sources? http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/10/12/87 I guess the dev

Re: [maemo-developers] Problem with Maemo's version of GTK

2005-10-27 Thread Kaj Grönholm
Hi, although it works with the x86-version of maemo running in scatchbox, sadly I was not able to run it on arm-emulation since it dies with Signal11 (in fact any program that is a bit more complicated bahaves strange when running in qemu). One should not run applications inside QEMU arm

Re: [maemo-developers] Problem with Maemo's version of GTK

2005-10-27 Thread Clemens Eisserer
One should not run applications inside QEMU arm emulation, as it does not work well enough for that (at least 0.9.8.4, later .5 and 1.0.x versions work a bit better). Well, of course I tested it on the real device since I got SigSev when running it using Qemu. Running it on the real device

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Flasher debs

2005-10-27 Thread Ferenc Szekely
Hello, ext Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: On Thursday 27 October 2005 15:59, Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: I agree with Timo on this one. Just came up with another package that could be placed in such repo. The documentation html-stuff. Would be nice to be able to download the docs in proper

[maemo-developers] Problems with Maemo developer rootfs

2005-10-27 Thread Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
Hi, So I downloaded and installed the Maemo_Dev_Platform_rootfs_v1.1rc5.jffs2 update from http://www.maemo.org/downloads/d1.php, but now I am unable to access the 770 due to no input seeming to work anymore. Touching the screen with the stylus only manages to get the backlight turned on, but

Re: [maemo-developers] Problems with Maemo developer rootfs

2005-10-27 Thread Laurent Lieben
Le 27 oct. 05 à 17:06, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller a écrit : Hi, So I downloaded and installed the Maemo_Dev_Platform_rootfs_v1.1rc5.jffs2 update from http://www.maemo.org/downloads/d1.php, but now I am unable to access the 770 due to no input seeming to work anymore. Touching the

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Flasher debs

2005-10-27 Thread Timo Steuerwald
Ferenc Szekely wrote: Hello, ext Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: On Thursday 27 October 2005 15:59, Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: I agree with Timo on this one. Just came up with another package that could be placed in such repo. The documentation html-stuff. Would be nice

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Flasher debs

2005-10-27 Thread Ferenc Szekely
ext Timo Steuerwald wrote: We can not provide the flasher anywhere else then behind the License Acceptance page. We can create a deb package however and put it there, but only there. I don't understand where's the difference between the current way and the common debian way: Displaying the

Re: [maemo-developers] Problem with Maemo's version of GTK

2005-10-27 Thread valtteri
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Timo Savola wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 04:49:49PM +0300, Kaj Grönholm wrote: One should not run applications inside QEMU arm emulation, as it does not work well enough for that (at least 0.9.8.4, later .5 and 1.0.x versions work a bit better). I've had no

[maemo-developers] Fixing the stock icons issue

2005-10-27 Thread Tommi Komulainen
Hi, To get back to the problem.. The problem is that whether you use the builtin icons or not, the instant you load the first icon you get the 30k penalty per process. This shouldn't be necessary and the gtk+ team has said they'd be willing to consider a patch that changes the lookup priority so

Re: [maemo-developers] Problem with Maemo's version of GTK

2005-10-27 Thread Clemens Eisserer
to be honest I am a bit sad since the question about changes to maemo's gtk turned into a discussion about the qemu version bundled with scratchbox ;-) Nevermind, however would be great if anybody could help me a bit with the GTK trouble *please* ;-) I really don't know any further :-( Thanks,

Re: [maemo-developers] flasher utility - new versions for MacOS X and PowerPCs running LInux

2005-10-27 Thread Sjoerd Simons
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 12:07:06AM +0300, Ferenc Szekely wrote: Hello, Big thanks to Johan and Onne: we have flasher runnning on MacOS X and on Linux powered PowerPC. You can find them here (behind the bars;) : http://maemo.org/downloads/d3.php It crashes on my powerbook running Debian sid:

Re: [maemo-developers] flasher utility - new versions for MacOS X and PowerPCs running LInux

2005-10-27 Thread Johan Hedberg
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005, Sjoerd Simons wrote: It crashes on my powerbook running Debian sid: # ./flasher.linux_ppc --query-rd-mode Suitable USB device not found, waiting *** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x10093568 *** zsh: 32458 abort ./flasher.linux_ppc

Re: [maemo-developers] Cairo benchmarking

2005-10-27 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
could you please try something using enlightenment Evas? It's supposed to be much faster than cairo. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri --- Computer Engineer 2001 - UNICAMP GPSL - Grupo Pro Software Livre Cell..: +55 (19) 9165 8010 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#:

Re: compatibility vs speed and bloat Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed

2005-10-27 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 10/27/05, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eero Tamminen napsal(a): I know this is pretty bold comment from me but if you think 30KB is enough to break compatibility, why not to use uClibc instead of glibc or ipkg packaging system from Familiar instead of full dpkg and .deb?

[maemo-developers] Warning. Installing Maemo Development Platform

2005-10-27 Thread Luca De Cicco
Hi there this is my first post on this ml. I'm quite sorry for the subject of this post (it would have better if i'd announce release of some package...) This day i downloaded Maemo Development Platform from the maemo website and i was happy to know what was new and suddenly found out that all

Re: [maemo-developers] Cairo benchmarking

2005-10-27 Thread Matthew Allum
Hey; Though internally cairo is mostly fixed point, its api is floating point - the 770 ( like most ARM devices ) lacks an FPU and thus any FP operations ( especially with hardfloat ) are slowww and really should be avoided. Also as yet cairo isn't heavily optimised and without any kind of

Re: [maemo-developers] Cairo benchmarking

2005-10-27 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2005/10/27, Matthew Allum [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey; Though internally cairo is mostly fixed point, its api is floating point - the 770 ( like most ARM devices ) lacks an FPU and thus any FP operations ( especially with hardfloat ) are slowww and really should be avoided. Yes, I'm

Re: [maemo-developers] Synchronization Application?

2005-10-27 Thread Jochen Eisinger
Hi, if installing these sync tools isn't really an option for you, there's an easy way to import ical formated calendar files into gpe-calendar. I've written a small script (http://c0ffee.org/stuff/conv.pl) that will convert an ical file to a series of sql commands. Run those using sqlite 2.x on

[maemo-developers] home_me_set_home_background error

2005-10-27 Thread wang baisheng
hi, When I click home_app_home_name -- home_me_set_home_background, matchbox gvies the following error : (home:20457): libgnomevfs-CRITICAL **: gnome_vfs_uri_extract_short_path_name: assertion `uri != NULL' failed (home:20457): libgnomevfs-CRITICAL **: gnome_vfs_uri_get_host_name:

[maemo-developers] homearea background is white ?

2005-10-27 Thread wang baisheng
hi, my homearea background is white ? why ? regards. wang baisheng ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers