Re: [maemo-developers] Re: star atlas for maemo

2006-11-30 Thread alessandro pasotti
2006/11/29, Danny Milosavljevic [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:14:14 +0100, alessandro pasotti wrote: Hello, an application that I really miss from the 770 is a star atlas, does anybody knows of an existing application that could be easily ported to maemo? Most of the big

[maemo-developers] Re: Re: star atlas for maemo

2006-11-30 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 11:06 +0100, alessandro pasotti wrote: I had to convert glade1 to glade2 interface xml files and to change from GTK_TEXT to GTK_TEXT_VIEW and I fixed an ugly error with locale that prevented correct parsing of floats in catalog files. Now the problem is that I see a

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Carlos Guerreiro
Hi Klassjan, On 11/30/06, *Carlos Guerreiro* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Hildon Application Framework that is being polished in Herring will be used in the next major 3.0 release of Maemo which will be called Bora. By porting your application to

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 11/30/06, Carlos Guerreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Klassjan, Since you state applications have to be ported to Maemo 3, will Maemo 3 be backward compatible with Maemo 2.x applications? [snip] We are working on documenting the changes and on a porting guide. Stay tuned. How far off

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Flegg schreef: On 11/30/06, Carlos Guerreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Klassjan, Since you state applications have to be ported to Maemo 3, will Maemo 3 be backward compatible with Maemo 2.x applications? [snip] We are working on

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Peter Robinson
Andrew Flegg schreef: On 11/30/06, Carlos Guerreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Klassjan, Since you state applications have to be ported to Maemo 3, will Maemo 3 be backward compatible with Maemo 2.x applications? [snip] We are working on documenting the changes and on a porting guide.

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 11/30/06, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Flegg schreef: How far off is Bora? If it's next week, there's little point in continuing to port existing applications; if it's 6 months, then I'll carry on :-) You mean like the 'Roadmap' we both have been asking for in the past? I

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Proper documentation (was Re: HildonProgram input to gtk_widget_show()?)

2006-11-30 Thread David Weinehall
On ons, 2006-11-29 at 22:39 +0200, ext Marius Gedminas wrote: [snip] [and /scratchbox/ is a bad place to put scratchbox to, am I the only one to have almost all the harddisk space on /home/ and almost none on / ?] Never heard of mount --bind? I don't have my scratchbox installation on the

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Carlos Guerreiro
ext Andrew Flegg wrote: On 11/30/06, Carlos Guerreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Klassjan, Since you state applications have to be ported to Maemo 3, will Maemo 3 be backward compatible with Maemo 2.x applications? [snip] We are working on documenting the changes and on a porting guide.

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread David Weinehall
On tor, 2006-11-30 at 10:36 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: [snip] If Maemo is to be an open and community participated effort, rather than just an open source Nokia SDK[1], the leaders of the project (i.e. Nokia) need to start informing the community of their plans for the platform. When

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 11/30/06, Carlos Guerreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext Andrew Flegg wrote: How far off is Bora? If it's next week, there's little point in continuing to port existing applications; if it's 6 months, then I'll carry on :-) Something in between. Unfortunately I cannot reveal the target

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 11/30/06, David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On tor, 2006-11-30 at 10:36 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: [snip] If Maemo is to be an open and community participated effort, rather than just an open source Nokia SDK[1], the leaders of the project (i.e. Nokia) need to start informing

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Carlos Guerreiro
ext Andrew Flegg wrote: On 11/30/06, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Flegg schreef: How far off is Bora? If it's next week, there's little point in continuing to port existing applications; if it's 6 months, then I'll carry on :-) You mean like the 'Roadmap' we both have been

[maemo-developers] Re: Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
David Weinehall wrote: When did Linus last announce the release date of the next kernel (and actually follow it)? Ohhh, but I guess you don't regard that as an open and community participated effort either. =) OT, but not such a good analogy :-). Linux has to spent quite some time

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Murray Cumming
I think it's natural that, at first, the platform and the products that use it will be tightly bound. When the platform and products are more mature, it'll be easier to separate their schedules. But as long as they are bound, we can't expect companies to indirectly announce their product release

Re: [maemo-developers] Suggestions for scirocco?

2006-11-30 Thread Tapani Pälli
ext Tran Van Hoang wrote: Hi all, In an effort trying to make scirocco officially support scratchbox apophis 1.x, we're also trying to make scirocco better if possible. So if you would like to have any thing else supported, please say it soon enough so we can at least try our best.

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread David Weinehall
On tor, 2006-11-30 at 10:53 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: On 11/30/06, David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On tor, 2006-11-30 at 10:36 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: [snip] If Maemo is to be an open and community participated effort, rather than just an open source Nokia

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [I'm subscribed to this list, so quit with the reply-all nonsense] Carlos Guerreiro schreef: Officially Maemo is still that, an application development platform with SDKs, but we are experimenting with community development and eventually Maemo

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 12:57:50PM +0100, ext Koen Kooi wrote: [I'm subscribed to this list, so quit with the reply-all nonsense] http://www.google.com/search?q=mail-followup-to Carlos Guerreiro schreef: Officially Maemo is still that, an application development platform with SDKs, but we

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 11/30/06, Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David's mail is pretty good. Carlos is obviously doing his best, so all I can do is suggest to you that maybe doing your best to irritate the people trying to help you despite a large corporate structure that has never attempted this sort of

Re: [maemo-developers] Changing the harrdware menu behaviour

2006-11-30 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 02:25:55PM +0200, Amichai Rotman wrote: I've asked this on the maemo-users list before and got no answer: Is it possible to change the behaviour of the hardware menu key to open the main apps menu instead of the Home context menu while @ the home screen? No. Although

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread David Weinehall
On tor, 2006-11-30 at 13:05 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: On 11/30/06, Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David's mail is pretty good. Carlos is obviously doing his best, so all I can do is suggest to you that maybe doing your best to irritate the people trying to help you despite a

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Miko Nieminen
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 01:30 +0200, Carlos Guerreiro wrote: Hi, Like Sardine, Herring is meant for application developers, hackers and tinkerers, not for end-users. To taste it, follow the step by step instructions in http://maemo.org/maemowiki/SardineGettingStarted replacing 'sardine'

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Murray Cumming
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 15:35 +0200, David Weinehall wrote: Well, the amount of people working on this project isn't exactly staggering. Each day we face the choice - spend a few hours on reading the maemo-developers list and answering to questions about our schedule, thereby delaying future

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Proper documentation (was Re: HildonProgram input to gtk_widget_show()?)

2006-11-30 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Marius Gedminas wrote: [and /scratchbox/ is a bad place to put scratchbox to, am I the only one to have almost all the harddisk space on /home/ and almost none on / ?] I used to do that, but then I've learned and now I just put everything into one big partition. When I was using

Re: Proper documentation (was Re: [maemo-developers] HildonProgram input to gtk_widget_show()?)

2006-11-30 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Levi Bard wrote: * For SDL programs you need to export one environment variable BTW, what is this variable? Apparently, I haven't been exporting it. ;-) See: http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-users/2006-March/000892.html You can either export it in shell script invoking the SDL

Re: Proper documentation (was Re: [maemo-developers] HildonProgram input to gtk_widget_show()?)

2006-11-30 Thread David Weinehall
On tor, 2006-11-30 at 16:06 +0200, ext Eero Tamminen wrote: Hi, ext Levi Bard wrote: * For SDL programs you need to export one environment variable BTW, what is this variable? Apparently, I haven't been exporting it. ;-) See:

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Re: star atlas for maemo

2006-11-30 Thread alessandro pasotti
Thank Ross, your advice was successfull, now I've ported and packaged stars for maemo!!! Before releasing I would like to solve some minor problems: 1 - how to go full screen when the user press the full-screen button 2 - how to connect the arrows hardware buttons to the srollbars While I dig

Re: [maemo-developers] Up-to-date documentation for a working Sardine

2006-11-30 Thread Murray Cumming
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 12:11 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: Enjoy: http://sardine.garage.maemo.org/ Thank you. Works for me. However, I'm now getting these errors when starting some simple examples: process 21335: D-Bus library appears to be incorrectly set up; failed to read machine uuid:

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Scratchbox 1.x with scirocco/mistral

2006-11-30 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hi Carlos, you wrote (I've selected qemu-arm-0.8.1-sb2) I am new to scratchbox, is qemu-arm a separate debian package or is it part of the scatchbox installation? Thanks, Rainer Am Donnerstag, 23. November 2006 20:44 schrieb Carlos Sanmartin Dominguez: Hi, I'm wondering if anyone has

[maemo-developers] Re: Re: high speed (52/48Mhz) MMC mode added

2006-11-30 Thread Danny Milosavljevic
Hi, On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 17:19:57 +0100, Frantisek Dufka wrote: I have added source diff for newer kernel to http://fanoush.webpark.cz/maemo/#mmcplus It contains also code multiblock writes but disabled. Nice! Works fine for me: time dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=/dev/null bs=8192 count=10240 real

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Re: Re: star atlas for maemo

2006-11-30 Thread alessandro pasotti
Thanks everybody, while I work on some more fixes, Stars prerelease is still useable and can be found here: http://www.itopen.it/2006/11/30/finalmente-anche-maemo-puo-guardare-le-stelle/ I will announce it on the applications catalog when the fixes will be ready: 1 - scrollbars are now