Re: [maemo-developers] Does camera in N800 support X11 Xv extension?

2007-02-06 Thread koos vriezen
2007/2/6, Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:17:48PM +0100, ext koos vriezen wrote: 4 Feb 2007 19:47:02 +0100, Tim Teulings [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Subject says it all: Does the camera in the N800 support the X11 Xv extension, that mean can I use this extension for

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: what's a libconic0?

2007-02-06 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Kalle Vahlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does this mean the proprietary osso-ic stuff is gone in IT2007? At least they are present on my N800... And since osso-ic is a daemon and libconic is a library, I guess the former is just a frontend for the latter. Someone who really knows can

[maemo-developers] What kind of tools and utilities you want in ARM

2007-02-06 Thread mika.k.leppinen
Hi, We are currently thinking what kind of tools and utilities would be the most useful for ARM based Maemo developers. Idea is that we would host some basic tools and utilities from common repository and hopefully when new platform version comes these tools work ASAP and fun can start

[maemo-developers] Unpacked OS 2007 source available

2007-02-06 Thread Andrew Flegg
Hi, As Jakub's revealed[1] the OS 2007 components' source is now available. In the same large tarball that the OS 2006 components were released in. As Koen did for OS 2006, I'd like to announce the unpacked versions are available now: http://www.bleb.org/software/n800/os2007-src/ HTH,

RE: [maemo-developers] Maemo roadmap, SDK improvements...

2007-02-06 Thread quim.gil
Hi Sean, respect. I think on part of the challenge is the perception versus the intention. This is a very good point. We can improve clarifying our intentions and communicating them. One problem here is the novelty of the process in many senses: we are sharing a project and a context that is

[maemo-developers] Kernel guide for maemo (and other devel docs)

2007-02-06 Thread quim.gil
This is a call to kernel lovers, http://maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_kernel_guide_bora.html Any suggestions to improve this documentation? If you see a clear gap please tell us. PS: If you know about a clear gap in our developer documentation, tell us as well. Yes, I know there has been

Re: [maemo-developers] Kernel guide for maemo (and other devel docs)

2007-02-06 Thread Komal Shah
On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a call to kernel lovers, http://maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_kernel_guide_bora.html Any suggestions to improve this documentation? If you see a clear gap please tell us. PS: If you know about a clear gap in our developer

Re: [maemo-developers] How to learn DSP development for N800?

2007-02-06 Thread Klaus Rotter
Hanno Zulla wrote: I want to learn how to add new codecs to Maemo. So: Yes, I want direct access to the DSP. - example of simple hello world dsp task with working makefile including linking phase with dsp bios used on device - source of example audio/video sink - i.e. how to produce

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo roadmap, SDK improvements...

2007-02-06 Thread Komal Shah
On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sean, respect. I think on part of the challenge is the perception versus the intention. This is a very good point. We can improve clarifying our intentions and communicating them. One problem here is the novelty of the process in many

Re: [maemo-developers] Kernel guide for maemo (and other devel docs)

2007-02-06 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Komal Shah wrote: Why on the world we can't do make menuconfig? You can, but there was a bug with linking ncurses. Maybe that's why it is not mentioned in the document at all. Not sure if this is still in 3.0 ARM target. It was still there when I recompiled RX-34 kernel but I'm not sure

Re: [maemo-developers] What kind of tools and utilities you want

2007-02-06 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Hi, We are currently thinking what kind of tools and utilities would be the most useful for ARM based Maemo developers. Idea is that we would host some basic tools and utilities from common repository and hopefully when new platform version comes these tools work ASAP and fun can start

Re: [maemo-developers] Kernel guide for maemo (and other devel docs)

2007-02-06 Thread Frantisek Dufka
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a call to kernel lovers, _http://maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_kernel_guide_bora.html_ Any suggestions to improve this documentation? If you see a clear gap please tell us. Noticed this some time ago. Thanks. Looks like is is based on or contains

Re: [maemo-developers] New list spin-off?

2007-02-06 Thread Antonio Gomes
Seconded. Further, do you want a single reasonable reason to reduce (at least) this string from msg titles ? Try reading you gmail from your n800/n770 ! On 2/6/07, Kalle Valo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As far as removing the tag from the subject in favor

Re: [maemo-developers] New list spin-off?

2007-02-06 Thread Kees Jongenburger
Yay for Mutt and single-keystroke reply-to-list! I agree, change default reply-to to the list address. I think I could deal with both, but if the mailing list software mangles the reply-to header, sooner or later I *will* post a personal message to the list by accident. You are right, I

Re: [maemo-developers] debhelper

2007-02-06 Thread Graham Cobb
On Monday 05 February 2007 04:32, Andrew Barr wrote: It seems a lot of Debian source packages now require debhelper = 5. This is a PITA because Scratchbox only has 4.2.32 and as far as I can tell building it is going to be no small task...I am failing to build the dependency

Re: [maemo-developers] high CPU consuption caused by udhcp

2007-02-06 Thread Kalle Valo
william maddler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've noticed udhcp is firing up *multiple* (it's actually and endless loop) instances of udhcpc.script, which contains dbus references. As a result CPU usage increases to about 100%. That's strange behaviour. Of course that happens only if dymanic

Re: [maemo-developers] What kind of tools and utilities you want

2007-02-06 Thread Hanno Zulla
Stefan Englhardt schrieb: I would like to see perl and mysql client lib as this is the platform I'm used to. Have a look at http://mud-builder.garage.maemo.org/index.php I plan to add a perl perl libraries recipe there, but maybe you will be faster than I am. Perl is relatively easy to build

Re: [maemo-developers] What kind of tools and utilities you want

2007-02-06 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 2/6/07, Hanno Zulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefan Englhardt schrieb: I would like to see perl and mysql client lib as this is the platform I'm used to. Have a look at http://mud-builder.garage.maemo.org/index.php I plan to add a perl perl libraries recipe there, but maybe you will be

[maemo-developers] avahi port

2007-02-06 Thread Andrew J. Barr
Hello, As I mentioned previously, I am porting avahi to the N800 and later the 770. I have packages built, but there is a small problem that prevents them from working--when they are configured by dpkg they cause a lifeguard reset. My working theory is this is caused by this command issued by the

[maemo-developers] Problems installing Scratchbox

2007-02-06 Thread Andy Mulhearn
This weekend I decided to brush up my meagre developer skills, starting by seeing if I could build one of the hello world style apps to run on my N800. Unfortunately it proved to be an almost completely fruitless exercise, other than providing me with a working Debian installation in a

[maemo-developers] Re: Kernel guide for maemo (and other devel docs)

2007-02-06 Thread Zoran Kolic
I suggest that you don't advocate following steps of manual editing of .config files. It is considered as bad practice even though it works. With complete howto, it must be easier. There is linux kernel nutshell for free on the net. Bsd breed use this approach. Zoran

Re: [maemo-developers] high CPU consuption caused by udhcp

2007-02-06 Thread william maddler
Kalle Valo wrote: william maddler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've noticed udhcp is firing up *multiple* (it's actually and endless loop) instances of udhcpc.script, which contains dbus references. As a result CPU usage increases to about 100%. That's strange behaviour. I know. :) Of

Re: [maemo-developers] high CPU consuption caused by udhcp

2007-02-06 Thread Kalle Valo
william maddler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I haven't heard anything like this. Patrik, what about you? I'll investigate more as soon as I'll reflash N800. This way I can exclude my fault. Most probably the problem goes away after a reflash. But it would be great if you could find a bit more

[maemo-developers] A package some of you might want.

2007-02-06 Thread Jason Monroe Martin
It allows you to connect to postgresql with python2.5. I probably will not add it to the Application Catalog. http://my.opera.com/monroe/blog/maemo-postgresql ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org

Re: [maemo-developers] avahi port

2007-02-06 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 09:47 -0500, ext Andrew J. Barr wrote: Hello, As I mentioned previously, I am porting avahi to the N800 and later the 770. I have packages built, but there is a small problem that prevents them from working--when they are configured by dpkg they cause a lifeguard

[maemo-developers] armel-debs.applieddata

2007-02-06 Thread Zoran Kolic
Howdy! Any experience with armel-debs.applieddata.net/debian/pool/main ? Would be nice to use some precompiled binaries without bricking the device. Zoran ___ maemo-developers mailing list

Re: [maemo-developers] What kind of tools and utilities you want

2007-02-06 Thread Hanno Zulla
Andrew Flegg schrieb: I've had no problems `apt-get install perl perl-modules' on my 770 from the maemo repository. Not tried it on my N800, but - worryingly - the packages don't seem to be there: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo3.0/free/binary/ Whoever built it didn't do that for

Re: [maemo-developers] What kind of tools and utilities you want in ARM

2007-02-06 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Am Dienstag, 6. Februar 2007 11:47 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, We are currently thinking what kind of tools and utilities would be the most useful for ARM based Maemo developers. Idea is that we would host some basic tools and utilities from common repository and hopefully when new

Re: [maemo-developers] What kind of tools and utilities you want

2007-02-06 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 2/6/07, Hanno Zulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Perl in Maemo repository] Whoever built it didn't do that for the N800. So I guess it's a perfect candidate for a MUD recipe so that this doesn't happen again. MUD patches always welcome on the mailing list:

Re: [maemo-developers] Problems installing Scratchbox

2007-02-06 Thread Levi Bard
As an aside , installing xephyr on Debian from unstable seems to be a complete non-starter without ripping out all of your other x apps and windowing system and a replacing a whole host of other packages as well. So I tried XNest instead which has the benefit of being installable and working.

[maemo-developers] Media Streamer: Object Not Found

2007-02-06 Thread Andrew J. Barr
Hi, I have been playing with the Nokia media streamer app on both my 770 and N800 and I am having an issue with it. I have MythTV 0.20 installed on my home network and it exports its TV recordings and music as UPnP AV shares. This is picked up by the Nokia app but when I try to play something I

Re: [maemo-developers] Problems installing Scratchbox

2007-02-06 Thread Andy Mulhearn
On Tuesday, February 06, 2007, at 04:19PM, Levi Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an aside , installing xephyr on Debian from unstable seems to be a complete non-starter without ripping out all of your other x apps and windowing system and a replacing a whole host of other packages as well.

Re: [maemo-developers] Media Streamer: Object Not Found

2007-02-06 Thread Mike Klein
I thought most recent myth had upnp problems where it showed folders only and no file content inside? Are you using cvs builds? I see this behaviour with all my upnp clients against myth (.20). I have tested Phillips upnp remote, N800, PepperPad3, fuse/djmount and moreno files with

Re: [maemo-developers] What kind of tools and utilities you want in ARM

2007-02-06 Thread Acadia Secure Networks
Mika, how about the following utilities which are already quite standard for most Linux distributions: 1. Wireshark (aka Ethereal) running on the OS, at least with the capability to gather packet/frame streams so that they can be later analyzed on a PC with a richer (i.e. Bigger) screen

Re: [maemo-developers] Media Streamer: Object Not Found

2007-02-06 Thread Michael Thompson
On 06/02/07, Mike Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought most recent myth had upnp problems where it showed folders only and no file content inside? Are you using cvs builds? I see this behaviour with all my upnp clients against myth (.20). I have tested Phillips upnp remote, N800,

Re: [maemo-developers] What kind of tools and utilities you want in ARM

2007-02-06 Thread Hanno Zulla
Acadia Secure Networks schrieb: how about the following utilities which are already quite standard for most Linux distributions: All three are not development tools, but applications. You might want to port them, but I doubt that they are absolutely necessairy for development. I see your need

Re: [maemo-developers] Media Streamer: Object Not Found

2007-02-06 Thread Alessandro Pasotti
I'm using fuppes too, it works well with media streamer on N800 but I see the same problem (folder files listing don't work) when accessing from the media player. 2007/2/6, Michael Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 06/02/07, Mike Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought most recent myth had

Re: [maemo-developers] What kind of tools and utilities you want in ARM

2007-02-06 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 12:47:47PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are currently thinking what kind of tools and utilities would be the most useful for ARM based Maemo developers. Idea is that we would host some basic tools and utilities from common repository and hopefully when new

[maemo-developers] MMH project started

2007-02-06 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
Hallo guys, I have started a new project on the garage.maemo.org, MMH [1] MMH stands for Maemo Mail Handler and it consists of a suite of open source programs put together to provide a complete mail handling system. MMH will also offer an integrate built-from-scratch user interface for these

Re: [maemo-developers] New list spin-off?

2007-02-06 Thread Murray Cumming
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 09:59 -0600, Levi Bard wrote: [snip] most webmail clients (gmail at least) don't allow you to filter on these headers [snip] In gmail, you can filter on the recipients using the labels feature. It's not perfect but it mostly works. -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [maemo-developers] New list spin-off?

2007-02-06 Thread Levi Bard
[snip] most webmail clients (gmail at least) don't allow you to filter on these headers [snip] In gmail, you can filter on the recipients using the labels feature. It's not perfect but it mostly works. I agree - that's my first method, and the subject line filtering catches anything that

Re: [maemo-developers] high CPU consuption caused by udhcp

2007-02-06 Thread william maddler
Kalle Valo wrote: william maddler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I haven't heard anything like this. Patrik, what about you? I'll investigate more as soon as I'll reflash N800. This way I can exclude my fault. Most probably the problem goes away after a reflash. But it would be great if you

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo roadmap, SDK improvements...

2007-02-06 Thread Dave Neuer
On 2/4/07, Carl Worth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. An image built from only Free Software, that leads to as much functionality as possible, (even if not all hardware components are entirely functional) What exactly are asking for here: an official tarball release of everything in one

Re: [maemo-developers] Problems installing Scratchbox

2007-02-06 Thread Piotr Pokora
Hi, This is contrary to my experience. I was able to install xephyr on debian/sid with zero problems ( apt-get install xserver-xephyr ). Considering I'm not running the unstable sid release I'd expect this to be the case. It would appear that trying to install Xephyr on stable results in a

Re: [maemo-developers] osso-xterm issue

2007-02-06 Thread Piotr Pokora
Hi! I have scratchbox 1.0.7 installed from debian packages. I try to run osso-xterm ( from extras menu ), but all I have is X Terminal Loading message for a while only. In scratchbox console: * maemo_af_desktop[4743]: We could not read lowmem page stats. * execl: No such file or

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo roadmap, SDK improvements...

2007-02-06 Thread Carl Worth
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 14:58:02 -0500, Dave Neuer wrote: On 2/4/07, Carl Worth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. An image built from only Free Software, that leads to as much functionality as possible, (even if not all hardware components are entirely functional) What exactly are asking for

Re: [maemo-developers] Ogg Vorbis and the N800

2007-02-06 Thread Krischan Keitsch
Am Mittwoch, 31. Januar 2007 schrieb Simon Pickering: Hi as far as I can tell the n800 with the OMAP2420 processor has a vfp (vector floating point unit; see [1] ) Based on this I wanted to find out if vorbis could take advantage of this unit by default. To make it short: Yes

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo roadmap, SDK improvements...

2007-02-06 Thread Dave Neuer
On 2/6/07, Carl Worth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 14:58:02 -0500, Dave Neuer wrote: On 2/4/07, Carl Worth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. An image built from only Free Software, that leads to as much functionality as possible, (even if not all hardware components are

Re: [maemo-developers] SDL library repositories for 2.0/2.1/2.2

2007-02-06 Thread lamikr
Kees Jongenburger wrote: Hello I failed to find the location providing the deb packages for the libsdl development packages even thought there seems already be a quite many sdl based games for the maemo. Are there some repository for the official SDL development library deb files or are

Re: [maemo-developers] SDL library repositories for 2.0/2.1/2.2

2007-02-06 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 11:46:56PM +0200, lamikr wrote: both the dev and lib (for it2007) are in this repository: http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Packages and they are called libsdl1.2 and libsdl1.2-dev .They where installed by default on my install, perhaps you are missing more

[maemo-developers] How to change font

2007-02-06 Thread 刘慧杰
I can’t display chinese font in the scratchbox environment when I edit using gedit, but I can input using gedit in the ubuntu. how to solve ? Thanks/ By the way , is there a good input Chinese method?

Re: [maemo-developers] How to change font

2007-02-06 Thread Wahlau -
Hi 慧杰, as far as i know, there is so far no chinese input support (yet). the most you can have is just viewing chinese characters using chinese fonts. hope this helps. wahlau. On 07/02/07, 刘慧杰 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't display chinese font in the scratchbox environment

[maemo-developers] Re: What kind of tools and utilities you want in ARM

2007-02-06 Thread Anuj Verma (Kevin)
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:47:47 +0200, mika.k.leppinen wrote: Hi, We are currently thinking what kind of tools and utilities would be the most useful for ARM based Maemo developers. Idea is that we would host some basic tools and utilities from common repository and hopefully when new

[maemo-developers] Bluetooth GPRS settings

2007-02-06 Thread Jae Stutzman
I have been unable to get the N800 to BT dialup successfully to my Moto ROKR E2. The N800 successfully connects with my Moto V540. I've verified that the E2 works as a bluetooth modem with my XP laptop. The N800 connects and then disconnects right away. I've looked through the ppp options file

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo roadmap, SDK improvements...

2007-02-06 Thread Jae Stutzman
On 2/4/07, Carl Worth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. An image built from only Free Software, that leads to as much functionality as possible, (even if not all hardware components are entirely functional) I think that this is a great idea for many reasons. If there is a free

[maemo-developers] radio?!

2007-02-06 Thread Andrew J. Barr
Am I crazy or does the N800 have an FM radio in it? /sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-0/0-0010 # cat name TEA5761 FM-Radio Andrew ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers

Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

2007-02-06 Thread Andrew J. Barr
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 22:05 -0500, John B. Holmblad wrote: Andrew, maybe that is the hardware equivalent/ instantiation of an easter egg! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg_(virtual) Nope. radio-tea5761.c is a real driver as far as I can tell. It lives in drivers/media/radio

Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

2007-02-06 Thread inode0
On 2/6/07, Paul Klapperich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this a TI chip? I know TI has some bluetooth/FM tuner dual purpose chips [1]. Maybe this is related? I doubt the antenna is hooked up, though, but maybe it shares the antenna with the BT and we can just have one or the other operating...

Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

2007-02-06 Thread Acadia Secure Networks
Andrew, actually what I mean is easter eggs in the hardware, waiting to be discovered. Best Regards, John Holmblad Andrew J. Barr wrote: On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 22:05 -0500, John B. Holmblad wrote: Andrew, maybe that is the hardware equivalent/ instantiation of an easter egg!

Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

2007-02-06 Thread Paul Klapperich
On 2/6/07, inode0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/6/07, Paul Klapperich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this a TI chip? I know TI has some bluetooth/FM tuner dual purpose chips [1]. Maybe this is related? I doubt the antenna is hooked up, though, but maybe it shares the antenna with the BT and we

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: What kind of tools and utilities you want in ARM

2007-02-06 Thread Kees Jongenburger
7. Snapshot/Video application - none available as of now. Hello Kevin I installed x11vnc (from mud) on my n800 a few day's ago because I wanted to create a screencast for xmoto. Just installing and running x11vnc exports the display and makes it available to vnc. This combined with vnc2swf (on

[maemo-developers] Do you want to install as many applications as you like?

2007-02-06 Thread sebastian maemo
Hi, I finally was able to succeed booting my 770 from MMC. Thanks to the help of Frantisec and others at this list. As I promised, and for the benefit of those who haven't done it yet, I've rather simplified the Wikis about partition of the mmc, and dual booting. Here's what I've written:

[maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-users] Do you want to install as many applications as you like?

2007-02-06 Thread Jonathan Greene
I love the idea of twice as fast and full backup... any chance this works on the N800? On 2/6/07, sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I finally was able to succeed booting my 770 from MMC. Thanks to the help of Frantisec and others at this list. As I promised, and for the benefit of

Re: [maemo-developers] high CPU consuption caused by udhcp

2007-02-06 Thread Kalle Valo
william maddler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No way, just reflashed and nothing changed. CPU goes down as soon as I assign a static IP to N800. Oh man :( From what I discovered the udhcpc.script is being called in what looks like and almost endless loop, and as a side effect dbus eats CPU

RE: [maemo-developers] New list spin-off?

2007-02-06 Thread quim.gil
Thanks for the feedback. Still not 100 responses ;) but definitely we have a wider opinion now. New iteration: - No new list created. - Current lists are not renamed. - Flags in the subject are wiped out. - Reply-To is kept as it is. - maemo-developers is for... developers hacking either