Re: Double checking free/nonfree packages

2009-12-01 Thread Carsten Valdemar Munk
Quoting Christopher Allan Webber cweb...@dustycloud.org: While researching this list, I found some components that are currently marked as nonfree here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/Top_Level_Architecture ... but which now appear to be free

Re: Debian on the n900 / Configuring NOLO

2009-12-01 Thread Carsten Valdemar Munk
Quoting Christopher Allan Webber cweb...@dustycloud.org: It is good to hear that bootmenu is working on the n900, but IMO this is just a workaround for the root of the problem: the NOLO bootloader clearly sucks, is non-free, and is just plain unconfigurable (or if it is configurable, there

Re: Double checking free/nonfree packages

2009-12-01 Thread Alberto Mardegan
Christopher Allan Webber wrote: Mission control --- Marked as nonfree on the graph, however irc conversation reveals: wjt paroneayea: MC itself is LGPL [15:13] wjt paroneayea: Maemo uses osso-mission-control, which is upstream MC plus some proprietary bits Any

Re: Debian on the n900 / Configuring NOLO

2009-12-01 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Carsten Valdemar Munk wrote: . Or allow for flashing the NAND/eMMC through USB. Oh, right, if it can flash eMMC then the mmc code is in, so loading kernel from mmc is one NOLO bugzilla enhancement away ;-) In this case, noone says you cannot include a bootmenu in that zImage that

Re: Debian on the n900 / Configuring NOLO

2009-12-01 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Frantisek Dufka wrote: Oh, right, if it can flash eMMC then the mmc code is in, so loading kernel from mmc is one NOLO bugzilla enhancement away ;-) Again, having kernel commandline stored inside config partition and NOLO using it instead of builtin command line would be ideal situation.

Maemo superstars wanted on stackoverflow

2009-12-01 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hi, Do any Maemo superstars want to post to Stackoverflow? There are some Maemo related questions there and they are not necessarily being answered by those who have the most knowledge in our community. I know that we can be pretty hermetic at times, sticking to our forums and

extras-devel - extras-testing auto-promotion not working?

2009-12-01 Thread Anderson Lizardo
Hi, A long time ago I was informed by Niels on this list that packages dependencies (i.e. not user application or packages under user/* categories) would be automatically promoted from extras-devel to extras-testing (and to extras FWIW) if an application that depends on it is promoted. Well, it

Re: extras-devel - extras-testing auto-promotion not working?

2009-12-01 Thread Mikko Vartiainen
Well, it *used* to work like that some time ago, but in the last weeks I've noticed that no newer versions of PyMaemo packages (which are all dependencies from various user/* application) got promoted as before. Packages don't get updated in promotion process if earlier version satisfies

Re: extras-devel - extras-testing auto-promotion not working?

2009-12-01 Thread Anderson Lizardo
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Mikko Vartiainen mvartiai...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it *used* to work like that some time ago, but in the last weeks I've noticed that no newer versions of PyMaemo packages (which are all dependencies from various user/* application) got promoted as before.

Re: extras-devel - extras-testing auto-promotion not working?

2009-12-01 Thread Mikko Vartiainen
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Anderson Lizardo anderson.liza...@openbossa.org wrote: Should I proceed and promote the missing PyMaemo packages to extras-testing ? You can promote PyMaemo packages to extras-testing but it's not the solution, because it doesn't help getting them to Extras (you

Re: Debian on the n900 / Configuring NOLO

2009-12-01 Thread Christopher Allan Webber
Great! Thank you Frantisek! Frantisek Dufka duf...@seznam.cz writes: Frantisek Dufka wrote: Oh, right, if it can flash eMMC then the mmc code is in, so loading kernel from mmc is one NOLO bugzilla enhancement away ;-) Again, having kernel commandline stored inside config partition and

Re: extras-devel - extras-testing auto-promotion not working?

2009-12-01 Thread Igor Stoppa
ext Mikko Vartiainen wrote: You can promote PyMaemo packages to extras-testing but it's not the solution, because it doesn't help getting them to Extras (you can't promote them there). Even if newer versions of non user/ packages were promoted to Extras it doesn't help much getting them to

Re: contribution to projects in Garage

2009-12-01 Thread Cornelius Hald
Reshma Prasanna wrote: Hi, I think there are a lot of people who could need a help. But what is your back-ground, which is the kind of project to be interested in, in which kind of work do you think you could help out? I think a good approach would be

Re: extras-devel - extras-testing auto-promotion not working?

2009-12-01 Thread Mikko Vartiainen
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Igor Stoppa igor.sto...@nokia.com wrote: But if here there is a clear bug (not using /opt) which gets fixed by the newer version, what more is needed? And why? For this particular case there isn't anything else needed (imo). But generally if you can't promote

QA Process for non user/* packages and how Application Manager handles upgrades (was: Re: extras-devel - extras-testing auto-promotion not working?)

2009-12-01 Thread Anderson Lizardo
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Mikko Vartiainen mvartiai...@gmail.com wrote: You can promote PyMaemo packages to extras-testing but it's not the solution, because it doesn't help getting them to Extras (you can't promote them there). Even if newer versions of non user/ packages were promoted

Re: Double checking free/nonfree packages

2009-12-01 Thread Christopher Allan Webber
So first of all, I'd like to note that I was very happy to wake up to thse replies, particularly this one. It does raise a lot of confidence. Can it be that we start having several iniciatives like this spread in different places? At the end the goal is the same: Maemo as open as technically

Re: Double checking free/nonfree packages

2009-12-01 Thread Christopher Allan Webber
Carsten Valdemar Munk c...@cs.au.dk writes: Did you in your research run into Mer, btw? http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer - we strive towards having a 100% OSS platform on the software side (our views probably differ on the HW support side but so it goes) I did run across Mer, and I was

Re: QA Process for non user/* packages and how Application Manager handles upgrades (was: Re: extras-devel - extras-testing auto-promotion not working?)

2009-12-01 Thread Henrik Hedberg
Anderson Lizardo wrote: Some user suggested once creating meta user/* packages for libraries, python modules etc. that need updates, but I think this just too hackish, and even if we proceed and do this, how do we convince the end user to install it? I still suggest meta user/* packages.

Re: Double checking free/nonfree packages

2009-12-01 Thread David Greaves
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 22:16 -0600, Christopher Allan Webber wrote: Hello, I'm compiling a list on the Libre Planet wiki to determine what packages are nonfree, and what steps would need to be taken to make the n900 a fully free phone: http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/FreeMaemo Hi Christopher

Re: QA Process for non user/* packages and how Application Manager handles upgrades (was: Re: extras-devel - extras-testing auto-promotion not working?)

2009-12-01 Thread Mikko Vartiainen
I still suggest meta user/* packages. Nokia is actually using meta user/* packages (for example, Maemo 5 package is a meta package pulling the platform non user/* packages when upgraded). Meta packages are unfortunately the only working way get library updates to users. I still would

Re: QA Process for non user/* packages and how Application Manager handles upgrades (was: Re: extras-devel - extras-testing auto-promotion not working?)

2009-12-01 Thread Anderson Lizardo
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Mikko Vartiainen mvartiai...@gmail.com wrote:     I still suggest meta user/* packages. Nokia is actually using meta user/* packages (for example, Maemo 5 package is a meta package pulling the platform non user/* packages when upgraded). Meta packages are

Re: Double checking free/nonfree packages

2009-12-01 Thread Christopher Allan Webber
Heya David, David Greaves da...@dgreaves.com writes: If this is a reasonable compromise then it would be great to see this work integrated with the maemo community efforts - IIRC there have been other initiatives to investigate this kind of data so maybe they could be dug up? That's my

Re: QA Process for non user/* packages and how Application Manager handles upgrades (was: Re: extras-devel - extras-testing auto-promotion not working?)

2009-12-01 Thread Mikko Vartiainen
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Anderson Lizardo anderson.liza...@openbossa.org wrote: The problem being that the meta-package will pull *all* PyMaemo packages and not just what the user wants/needs :/ Yes, meta packages would bring more problems than solve them. Unless Application Manager

Re: Uploading homepage using GIT

2009-12-01 Thread Kees Jongenburger
Hi Akshey On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Akshey Jawa aksheyj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I need help in creating homepage for my project hosted at https://garage.maemo.org/projects/smartclassrooms/. For this I need to upload webpages using Version Control System. I have configured the project

Re: Uploading homepage using GIT

2009-12-01 Thread Kees Jongenburger
Hi Akshey On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Akshey Jawa aksheyj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I need help in creating homepage for my project hosted at https://garage.maemo.org/projects/smartclassrooms/. For this I need to upload webpages using Version Control System. I have configured the project

Re: Uploading homepage using GIT

2009-12-01 Thread Ferenc Szekely
Hello, Kees Jongenburger wrote: Hi Akshey On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Akshey Jawa aksheyj...@gmail.com mailto:aksheyj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I need help in creating homepage for my project hosted at https://garage.maemo.org/projects/smartclassrooms/. For this I need

Re: Uploading homepage using GIT

2009-12-01 Thread Kees Jongenburger
Hi Ferenc On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Ferenc Szekely fer...@maemo.org wrote: Isn't the SCM page of the particular project helpful enough? In this case: https://garage.maemo.org/scm/?group_id=1123 I don't think so About setting up the web space: