Re: correct kernel source for RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2 ?

2008-01-02 Thread Dave Neuer
On Jan 2, 2008 1:06 AM, Terje Bergström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frantisek Dufka wrote: some time ago I noticed there is osso63.1 version of kernel source here http://repository.maemo.org/pool/chinook/free/source/k/kernel-source-rx-34/ and thought it is source of kernel for latest 2008

Re: correct kernel source for RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2 ?

2008-01-02 Thread Dave Neuer
On Jan 2, 2008 10:45 AM, inode0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2008 9:33 AM, Dave Neuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a pretty cavalier attitude to a clear legal obligation, IMO. If the alternative is to not get new firmware released until later when source is ready to go

Re: The encumberance of Ogg (was Re: How to add ogg to the supported codecs/containers list?)

2007-12-10 Thread Dave Neuer
On Dec 10, 2007 12:00 PM, Michael Wiktowy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Starting a new topic thread since I don't want to hijack the parent one: I really don't understand Nokia's hesitation wrt supporting ogg officially. In fact, they seem to be actively surpressing it as an emerging standard.

Re: DSME code?

2007-09-14 Thread Dave Neuer
On 9/14/07, Simon Pickering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, it is gone. Page not found. I was very interested in that :-( Still there for me: https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/dsm-commits/2006-July/00.html I can see listinfo here

Re: DSME code?

2007-09-14 Thread Dave Neuer
On 9/14/07, Dave Neuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/14/07, Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 11:15:52AM -0400, ext Dave Neuer wrote: If you still have it cached, and could describe how it works to someone who hasn't seen it, it would be an opportunity

Re: DSME code?

2007-09-14 Thread Dave Neuer
On 9/14/07, Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 11:15:52AM -0400, ext Dave Neuer wrote: If you still have it cached, and could describe how it works to someone who hasn't seen it, it would be an opportunity for the community to work on a replacement. The D-Bus

Re: DSME code?

2007-09-14 Thread Dave Neuer
On 9/14/07, Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, DSME doesn't do anything complex, really. Looking at the API, it's trivial to reimplement, but as far as I can tell, no-one's ever started. Of course, it should be open, but the fact that no-one's even tried probably says something about

Re: No more 770 bug activity?

2007-04-03 Thread Dave Neuer
On 4/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there any chance to have a community maintained release? If I remember correctly some drivers are missing to get there, any chance to get the open sourced? From a Nokia 770 customer point of view, any solution around this device

Re: [maemo-developers] Dream Scenario (Re: Maemo roadmap, SDK improvements...)

2007-02-08 Thread Dave Neuer
On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, the FIASCO generator would presumably have to be opened for this to happen. Carl said this too, and I'm unclear as to the dependency of an all-open-source FIASCO image on opening the flasher tool; it seems like I can already package

Re: [maemo-developers] Dream Scenario (Re: Maemo roadmap, SDK improvements...)

2007-02-07 Thread Dave Neuer
On 2/7/07, Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, the FIASCO generator would presumably have to be opened for this to happen. Carl said this too, and I'm unclear as to the dependency of an all-open-source FIASCO image on opening the flasher tool; it seems like I can already package up a

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo roadmap, SDK improvements...

2007-02-06 Thread Dave Neuer
On 2/4/07, Carl Worth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. An image built from only Free Software, that leads to as much functionality as possible, (even if not all hardware components are entirely functional) What exactly are asking for here: an official tarball release of everything in one

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo roadmap, SDK improvements...

2007-02-06 Thread Dave Neuer
On 2/6/07, Carl Worth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 14:58:02 -0500, Dave Neuer wrote: On 2/4/07, Carl Worth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. An image built from only Free Software, that leads to as much functionality as possible, (even if not all hardware components

Re: [maemo-developers] New list spin-off?

2007-02-05 Thread Dave Neuer
On 2/5/07, Ferenc Szekely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not against any good changes, on the contrary... But in this case I would like to hear to hear 100s of opinions! Come on, we have ~1000 people on this list! I'm a subscriber and I'm all for it. Dave

Re: [maemo-developers] New list spin-off?

2007-01-31 Thread Dave Neuer
On 1/31/07, Mike Lococo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mainly, I think people need to be meaner on maemo-developers about pushing non-development discussion over to the users list. Tommi explained that maemo-users was for application developers (which makes sense to me, very analogous to the way

Re: [maemo-developers] cx3110x source code is for the nokia800?

2007-01-31 Thread Dave Neuer
On 1/31/07, Dave Neuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/31/07, Komal Shah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/30/07, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is the cx3110x source code is for the nokia800 available somewhere? I don't think that it is available. It is binary only module because

Re: [maemo-developers] OS2006 roadmap

2007-01-10 Thread Dave Neuer
On 1/10/07, Ted Zlatanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the 770/N800 break with OS support from ITOS2006 to ITOS2007 is reasonable. The 770 was a first-generation device, really the first of its kind. I hope the N800 doesn't get deprecated in the same way, and I hope Nokia at least considers

Re: [maemo-developers] OS2006 roadmap

2007-01-10 Thread Dave Neuer
On 1/10/07, Ted Zlatanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, obviously there will be 500 such developers now :) I just think it should have been 1500 happy users with $100 discounts instead of 500 happy developers with $300 discounts. Those 500 developers are going to create applications which

Re: [maemo-developers] OS2006 roadmap

2007-01-10 Thread Dave Neuer
On 1/10/07, Christian F.K. Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I think the two devices are rather different and not really competing directly that much against eachother. The prices are almost the same, and the iPhone will do everything the n880 will do out of the box, plus much more. Who

Re: [maemo-developers] OS2006 roadmap

2007-01-10 Thread Dave Neuer
On 1/10/07, Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that sounds as if you haven't watched very closely what happened the last year or so. Claiming that Nokia did not provide hardware and (more importantly) code is - in the best case - just uninformed. Yes, I missed the post to the mailing

Re: [maemo-developers] build Kernel 06

2006-07-19 Thread Dave Neuer
On 7/19/06, skler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nobody can write a mini-howto for compiling kernel of 06? I build one with this commands: snip tar jxf kernel-source-2.6.16.tar.bz2 snip # I'm just making zImage, you can play with modules too.. You are building a kernel from vanilla kernel

[maemo-developers] Mount problem

2006-06-16 Thread Dave Neuer
Why would sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/mmc1 fail w/ no such device from osso-xterm on IT2006 beta when 1) there's a mmcblk0p1 /dev node, 2) ls /sys/block/mmcblk0 shows the partition, and the partition is really ext3? I also tried w/ -t ext2. I can mount the device via usb-storage

[maemo-developers] Nice work -- praise for IT2006 beta

2006-06-16 Thread Dave Neuer
Hi all, I have been somewhat critical on the list WRT Nokia's implementation of the Free Software paradigm. While I am still looking forward to being able to build a complete environment for my 770 from source and hacking every last piece of it, I just wanted to say that the IT2006 is much more

Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not complaining

2006-05-11 Thread Dave Neuer
On 5/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can you be more specific ??? I can remove all software for which I cannot access and re-publish the source code and all of the hardware capabilities (power management, DSP and whatever other little doodads Nokia packed in there) are

Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not complaining

2006-05-04 Thread Dave Neuer
On 5/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, since you brought up truely open product and expectation management, what are Nokia's expectations about when the 770 will be a truely open product (i.e., I can run all free software on the device Maemo 2.0 would take it closer,

Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not complaining

2006-05-02 Thread Dave Neuer
On 4/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no offense, it always look simpler from the other side. Developing and bringing a product to market (in all my experience) is no simple task combine that with new challenges working with open source, and OS communities, new processes and at

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: End User Software Agreement

2006-05-02 Thread Dave Neuer
On 4/21/06, Jerry Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/21/06, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This may be because of closed source software (i.e. the Opera web browser) included into the firmware bin image. All fine and dandy, except the agreement makes no provisions for the

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: End User Software Agreement

2006-05-02 Thread Dave Neuer
On 5/2/06, Dave Neuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/21/06, Jerry Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/21/06, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This may be because of closed source software (i.e. the Opera web browser) included into the firmware bin image. All fine and dandy

Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet

2006-02-24 Thread Dave Neuer
On 2/23/06, David D. Hagood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Koen Kooi wrote: Please tell me I'm reading this wrong: 'swap file on the internal flash'. You do know that flash is broken after ~100k writes/cell, right? And you know that will break your 770, right? I think you are living in the

Re: [maemo-developers] ssh login

2006-01-20 Thread Dave Neuer
On 1/20/06, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed OpenSSH according to the description at http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog#head- a9cdc5b8981db478bc554e3dc9b23c6c80b9d4f2 SNIP Warning: Permanently added '192.168.0.184' (RSA) to the list of known

Re: [maemo-developers] swapfile is a huge improvement!

2006-01-16 Thread Dave Neuer
On 1/14/06, Juha Yrjölä [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 10:33 +, ext Clemens Eisserer wrote: But keep in mind that a swap-file means meany reads/writes to the same areas of flash which will for sure lead to the death of the mmc later or sooner. Not really, since the

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo Alarm/Notifier Interface

2006-01-16 Thread Dave Neuer
On 1/16/06, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's not really desired in a consumer device. I can see I'm going to run a risk here of alienating myself early from the Nokia employees on the list, as I keep coming to this same point when reading a lot of the posts here, and think it still

Re: [maemo-developers] modifying root filesystem

2006-01-16 Thread Dave Neuer
On 1/16/06, Devesh Kothari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext Lorn Potter wrote: I tried the instructions and scripts for modifying the root filesystem, http://maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_use_flasher_rootfs.html It seems the rootfs.packages and sources.list are out of date, or there are

[maemo-developers] swapfile is a huge improvement!

2006-01-16 Thread Dave Neuer
On 1/16/06, Juha Yrjölä [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 11:12 -0500, Dave Neuer wrote: The users can make their devices as complex they want (and possibly as unstable). We're responsible of keeping the software _we_ ship stable. That's completely reasonable, and I'd expect

Re: [maemo-developers] swapfile is a huge improvement!

2006-01-16 Thread Dave Neuer
On 1/16/06, Dave Neuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E.g., I asked for pointers to info like the above before (even just a description of the FIASCO components and info like size constraints), and the only answer I got was someone I believe was not a Nokia employee and which said search the mail

Re: [maemo-developers] compiling kernel Re: Fwd: [maemo-users] howtouse the 770 as wlan-card replacement?

2006-01-13 Thread Dave Neuer
On 1/13/06, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Modules _can_ be compiled and _do_ work and IMHO using modules is better way for adding functionality then introducing bloat into kernel and possibly bricking device (flashing an oversized kernel image renders the device useless). This is

Fwd: [maemo-developers] Maemo Alarm/Notifier Interface

2006-01-12 Thread Dave Neuer
On 1/12/06, Florian Boor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Devesh Kothari wrote: - Events must be delivered regardless of the device state e.g sleep, deep sleep or poweroff state [but with battery plugged in] I'm not sure if poweroff is really necessary... it would be cool if it is

Re: [maemo-developers] Doubts about flash memories and frequent writing

2006-01-12 Thread Dave Neuer
On 1/12/06, Israel Herraiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, sorry if my question seems too evident. As far as I know, the Nokia 770 contains a flash memory (128 MB), a RAM memory (64 MB) and the MMC card. All the filesystem is stored in the flash memory, and the MMC is mounted in

[maemo-developers] Info on FIASCO components/hackers' guide to the N770

2006-01-05 Thread Dave Neuer
Hi all, and thank you Nokia for finally getting my lovely new 770 to me. I'm still in the process of familiarizing myself w/ the device and the Maemo/N770 environment. Let me first complement all of the people who have made this impressive little device so usable and compelling already. Great