Christine Liu wrote:
hi all -
thanks for being so helpful and putting up with my incessant
questions. trust me, i do try to rtfm as much as possible before
calling for help. :)
my question is, are the two lower buttons on the left of the 770 unit
(corresponding to 'menu key' and 'home key')
Hello,
This is probably caused by using wrong compiler in scratchbox. For C++
you should use default debian gcc 3.3 not the 3.4 compiler from
codesourcery. 3.3 uses older libstdc++ which _is_ present on the device.
If you insist on gcc 3.4 you may try to link libstdc++ statically or you
can
Devesh Kothari wrote:
Another reason, is we dont just want to push the Maemo 2.0 till we get the
public upgrade IT 2006. Since we know Maemo 2.0 would be binary
incompatible,
the applications cross compiled on the development environment would not
run
on the current IT 2005 edition (on device)
1)
Has anyone ever been making a kernel package for the Nokia 770 which can
be installed there with Application Installer rather than deploying
'zImage' of new kernel onto the device?
Probably not. It is not straightforward at all, maybe even imposible.
You would definitely need root
Frantisek Dufka wrote:
One solution is kexec
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-kexec.html
There even seems to be something done for ARM
http://lists.osdl.org/pipermail/fastboot/2005-March/001290.html
It is probably true that the idea is not very practical for end users
Andrey Khurri wrote:
Kernel compilation
procedure it's not straightforward itself so that would be nice to let
those people use our kernel. But as it seems to be the only way is to
make 'zImage' available for them.
Well, you can give them kernel binary but they currently need to flash
it
David D. Hagood wrote:
In short, clock per clock, I suspect the DSP can do more video work than
the ARM can.
Now, you *could* make the argument that if the workload of decoding
video could somehow be split between the 2 processor cores there might
be some benefit - maybe leave the video
Josep Torra Valles wrote:
/ $ cat /sus/bus/dsptask/devices/dsptask11/devname
mp2dec
Is it an mpeg2 audio decoder implemented on DSP ?
Can you give me info
about how I could use it in my project ?
Sources of gstreamer plugins which are using the DSP would be extremely
useful for this but
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Both of them works! : )
That's cool :)
Question:
1)Is it correct for me to use the dspfbsink directly? (Frame
buffer) Any pre-processing necessary?
I'd guess it isn't, but don't know. You would be missing the new window
so it looks like there should
David D. Hagood wrote:
Also,
many of the operations in video codecs are multiply-and-accumulate
operations ( a += b*c ), which DSPs have a single instruction to do.
In short, clock per clock, I suspect the DSP can do more video work than
the ARM can.
Well OMAP 1710 is ARM5-TEJ - the E
Brad Midgley wrote:
I noticed the rs-mmc has more connectors than a plain mmc card. In
theory, requiring rs-mmc might make it so the nokia doesn't have to run
the card in a slower compatibility mode.
Well, not exactly. RS-MMC is what is says 'reduced size' MMC. I've got
few MMC and RS-MMC
Philippe Laporte wrote:
Hi,
What is the quick and cleanest way to hack the app db on place by
combining sdk and product image?
Something about this in in the wiki, follow link in
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/4910
As you can see I already asked for this but got
Hello Igor,
can you comment on idea mentioned in this thread about charging the
battery fully and then measuring DC current from charger? Is this
nonsense or not? Is the battery used when already charged and device is
still connected to the charger? I thought most laptops and PDAs work
this
Heike C. Zimmerer wrote:
I don't know of any mobile or
laptop which does some real detection.
Well it doesn't mater how much it is real (=accurate) but whether there
is such circuit which simply stops charging and cuts also the input from
battery to not discharge it when you have AC
Claudio Scordino wrote:
Does anybody have an idea about how to make the Nokia 770 work without the
battery (just with the electric cable) or how to make such a measurement ?
When the battery is fully charged you can start measuring current in the
cable since the battery is probably not
Hello,
It looks like /etc/resolv.conf contains only localhost, yet when I
connect to wlan network DNS works fine. So the information is kept
elsewhere (probably some dns server is running on 127.0.0.1?). How
exactly it works?
I'm asking because I'm trying to use pptp client and when I
Sorry, I asked too early. There is dnsmasq running and it is configured
to use /var/run/resolv.conf.ppp0 and /var/run/resolv.conf.wlan0 so in
theory it should work.
But it is a bit strange. It doesn't work. Once I start the pptp tunnel
and add internal dns to /var/run/resolv.conf.ppp0 it is
You may check this long conversation
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/3910#3910
Looks like turning off WiFi is currently hardcoded but according to
David Weinehall it will be redesigned in future to be more flexible.
I suppose you can intercept this by checking device
Clemens Eisserer wrote:
Yes of course I did, but this howto doesn't work as all other manuals
don't work.
It is a wiki, you may fix it instead of whining :-)
It start with the install script which does not work
You mean it does not work _for you_ not that it does not work. Do you
think
Check this
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/3409#3409
Roger Books wrote:
I have followed the tutorial up to the point where I am building the
package. Everything works great to this point. Then I do:
[sbox-SDK_PC: ~maemopad] dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b
Benno Senoner wrote:
Since Opera is a Qt app and is installed on the Nokia 770 I assume the
Opera guys found a way to compile Qt.
I guess Opera on N770 does not use QT at all. The rendering core is
probably toolkit independent and the menu and other UI is done with GTK.
Using QT together
Benno Senoner wrote:
Hi all,
I got Qt working on the Nokia 770 (ran the examples/widgets example),
but I would like to start the application in fullscreen mode, without
the top and lateral desktop toolbars.
This is nothing GTK-specific. You can do it even from SDL-based app on
N770. The
Hello,
would it be possible to make package metadata available somewhere before
they get stripped from final firmware images (for space reasons I suppose)?
I've seen wiki page here http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowTo_InstallAptGet
but I suppose the best would be to have original metadata.
From the API as presented and from current device behaviour I suspect
that is is possible to have only one connection active. I think this is
quite big limitation.
1. home wlan adhoc network (laptop) with no internet connectivity +
mobile phone - you can access media streamed from laptop and
I think this limitation has something to do with the word 'Internet' in
the API name. Because for simplicity there is only one 'Internet' you
want to connect to. What I am missing is generic networking or
connectivity settings like the 'Network connections' panel in MS
Windows. I hoped the
Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote:
Also on the information track, the Tremor plugin in GStreamer 0.10 works
fine on the 770.
Interesting. So what exactly can I do to let the n770 video and audio
player recognize ogg vorbis audio data?
Frantisek
Hi Fabrice,
this was already discussed. There are searchable mailing list archives
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine?list=maemo
You can check it for 'java' before asking further questions.
Also generally is not good idea to cross-post to multiple lists. Where
should I send my
Ed Bartosh wrote:
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 00:51 -0700, ext Greg Morgan wrote:
Oh is the flasher
source available?
* It looks like some params have secret handshakes too. I could not
find the correct values for -flash-only arg
Possible options are nolo,kernel,initfs and rootfs.
nolo is for
Hello,
I just tried to compile my own kernel with backlight changes and found this:
- my kernel works in the device without any ill effects and without
messing with initfs, great :) I used kernel from
http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo1.1/free/k/kernel-source-2.6.12.3/
I removed
Frantisek Dufka wrote:
It means that either UI dynamically
adjusts itself to the value of sysfs backlight_max or it uses directly
tahvo.
Yes, it uses sysfs. I implemented translation table and also hardcoded
values for level 1 and 2 to values 1 and 2 (instead of 8 and 16) and it
works like
Kuisma Salonen wrote:
ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just wanted to install usb camera for N770,the model I used is the
Logetich quickcam pro4000,the driver is pwc.However
when I installed the module pwc.ko ,it says invalid format.Is there
anyone have isntalled a usb camera for N770?
John
I hope the darkest level won't be too bright either. I see darker level
when writing 1 via sysfs then it is possible via gui. When writing 2 it
is same level as possible with GUI. But when writing 2 via sysfs it
immediatelly returns 1 on read (and the brightness is same). I'll try
the ioctl
Looks like it can be controlled via ioctl on the framebuffer device.
http://maemo.org/lxr/source/osso-af-utils/src/omapfb.h
struct lcd_panel has pointer
int (*set_bklight_level)(struct lcd_panel *panel,unsigned int level);
I'll try to figure out how it can be called. If anyone knows, don't
Aaron Levinson wrote:
It is unclear what causes
this switch to occur because I could find no mention of xim in the
source code for the plugin, and a cursory examination of the GTK source
code didn't turn up anything.
It is not in plugin but on different level. With non-HID keyboards using
Hello,
it looks like when there is no service and non-maemo specific process is
launched it runs with nice value of -1 i.e. it has higher priority than
normal (example scummvm port). If it has service defined it has normal
priority (example gaim). Both have similar .desktop files but the
Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote:
If it was launched by one of the DBus daemons then it seems a bug. What
version of DBus you have?
Sorry, should have said it before. It is on the device, official 51
firmware. Looks like I should report it in buzilla then, right?
Frantisek
Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) wrote:
We already do the power saving part, we already have all the positive
side effects of keeping alive -- but *if* the user wants to do a proper
shutdown, which will allow him to keep the device alive even longer than
usual -- let them. It's not going to
As for the backlight - the default minimum is too bright at night. Is
this hardware or software limitation? I cannot find API for this and for
volume control in libOSSO. Is it elsewhere?
Frantisek
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Well it is solvable but hard. You could halt everything and display
something like 'Poor human, give me my card back or I will reboot'. But
this has to be done in low level (kernel thread?, direct framebuffer
access?) because anything in userspace can segfault when swap is removed.
I know
Nils Faerber wrote:
I also guess that most
Palms and alike behave the same - off is off. Only exception from that
rule I know of are (some) mobile phones.
No in PalmOS off is not off. On Tungsten T2 you can set it to be waked
up by initiating bluetooth connection with it when it is 'off'.
Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) wrote:
No in PalmOS off is not off. On Tungsten T2 you can set it to be waked
up by initiating bluetooth connection with it when it is 'off'. You can
also schedule alarm procedure which gets executed and the display is
even not waked up if you wish. Unlike
Brad Midgley wrote:
- activate the keyboard with something other than the xterm in the
foreground or switch between apps once (enter key won't work)
Should be enough to unfocus xterm window by opening and closing
application menu on left. Works for me.
Frantisek
Hello,
the howto is good but the part 'Compiling Modules' is confusing. It
looks like you are suggesting to put everything in kernel because
modules cannot be compiled.
Modules _can_ be compiled and _do_ work and IMHO using modules is better
way for adding functionality then introducing
BTW, did you think about using main CPU for decoding multimedia too? I
was a bit shocked when playing the Ice Age trailer and saw in load
plugin that main CPU is completely idle and both video and audio is
decoded by DSP. I have no benchmarks or practical experience so far but
from the
Clemens Eisserer wrote:
I don't feel that comfortable with compiling my own kernel
with all the nokia patches for this exotic device ;)
It is not so hard. N770 specific kernel sources are here
http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo1.1rc6/free/k/kernel-source-2.6.12.3/
original kernel config
Clemens Eisserer wrote:
So no way arround compiling my own kernel if I want to use
masquerading with iptables?
Not sure about this.
But shouldn't it be possible to compile the whole kernel with the
netfilter-stuff built as modules and then just copy the modules and
load them?
Probably yes.
Tomas Junnonen wrote:
The dsme daemon on the device polls the event queues in /dev/input and
resets the timer used for screen blanking on activity. Unfortunately it
only checks the touchscreen and hardware key queues.
I would be interested in fixing this. I'm using bluetooth keyboard with
Ralph Giles wrote:
I believe they have a free signup where you can download a trial
version of their compiler[2] for the DSP target. This would be the main
advantage I'm aware of (assuming you meant DSP accelleration, not just
ARM asm), since there's no working gcc port and otherwise one has
uinput module to standard N770 kernel.
Regards,
Frantisek
Frantisek Dufka wrote:
Tomas Junnonen wrote:
However, the kbdd program (http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/kbdd)
mentions supporting your keyboard, and I can't think of any immediate
reasons why this would not work on the 770 with a bit
Hello,
is there some binary on N770 that would just pop up a dialog of specific
type and returned result to standard output? It would great for simple
shell scripting. Or is there some project that already provides gtk
'shell bindings' as a binary?
Frantisek
Yes zenity or gdialod is what I wanted. Thanks for the link. By binary I
mean executable you can run from shell with arguments and parse its
output or check return code. One can do a lot with this quickly.
Python is too heavy. Shell is already on the device and is enough for
most of the
Tomas Junnonen wrote:
However, the kbdd
program (http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/kbdd) mentions supporting
your keyboard, and I can't think of any immediate reasons why this would
not work on the 770 with a bit of hacking.
Just tried binary from
Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote:
It could be also that closing of the MMC cover is not detected; there's
a switch in the MMC cover that could be damaged. If that is the
case, you can mount the MMC manually by typing sudo mount /media/mmc1
in the X terminal (which you'd need to install). Unmounting
Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote:
Sorry I was little confused about this: the 770 cannot use normal size
MMCs because the kernel does not recognize the MMC until the signal from
the MMC cover comes (when it's closed). So, the kernel would need to be
modified to poll for MMC even when the MMC cover is open
Paul Mundt wrote:
It's already possible to do this, sort of:
$ echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/mmci-omap.2/enable_poll
$ mount /media/mmc1
Thanks for the tip. I'll make partition on card and try this. If
polling eats battery it would be nice to be able to trigger this event
via sysfs
Koen Kooi wrote:
Matthew Allum pointed me to a patch that can help with this sort of
thing: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4537
We are using an adapted patch for kdrive in OpenEmbedded for devices
where the real framebuffer doesn't match the orientation of the screen.
regards,
Just a warning. SuperWaba is very good but no longer free. Since version
5.x authors invented new business model and started to charge for LGPLed
version (approx. 500$ per year). The version they call GPLed is still
free but mostly only as in beer and the future is not bright. It works a
bit
Hello,
anyone still waiting for his/her discount code? With all the photos of
shipping devices I am a bit afraid about being forgotten. I can't
believe I'm the only one so impatient to actually ask here :)
In July I got the 'Thank you for your participation in Nokia 770
developer device
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