RE: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-12-18 Thread Carlos.Guerreiro
Is there some specific reason why instructions tell to select CPU-transparency in the devkits when creating a i386 target? I think that shouldn't be needed, but it should cause any problems either since no CPU-transparency method is selected. No. It really should not be needed.

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Carlos Guerreiro
Hi Klassjan, On 11/30/06, *Carlos Guerreiro* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Hildon Application Framework that is being polished in Herring will be used in the next major 3.0 release of Maemo which will be called Bora. By porting your application to

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 11/30/06, Carlos Guerreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Klassjan, Since you state applications have to be ported to Maemo 3, will Maemo 3 be backward compatible with Maemo 2.x applications? [snip] We are working on documenting the changes and on a porting guide. Stay tuned. How far off

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Flegg schreef: On 11/30/06, Carlos Guerreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Klassjan, Since you state applications have to be ported to Maemo 3, will Maemo 3 be backward compatible with Maemo 2.x applications? [snip] We are working on

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Peter Robinson
Andrew Flegg schreef: On 11/30/06, Carlos Guerreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Klassjan, Since you state applications have to be ported to Maemo 3, will Maemo 3 be backward compatible with Maemo 2.x applications? [snip] We are working on documenting the changes and on a porting guide.

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 11/30/06, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Flegg schreef: How far off is Bora? If it's next week, there's little point in continuing to port existing applications; if it's 6 months, then I'll carry on :-) You mean like the 'Roadmap' we both have been asking for in the past? I

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Carlos Guerreiro
ext Andrew Flegg wrote: On 11/30/06, Carlos Guerreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Klassjan, Since you state applications have to be ported to Maemo 3, will Maemo 3 be backward compatible with Maemo 2.x applications? [snip] We are working on documenting the changes and on a porting guide.

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread David Weinehall
On tor, 2006-11-30 at 10:36 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: [snip] If Maemo is to be an open and community participated effort, rather than just an open source Nokia SDK[1], the leaders of the project (i.e. Nokia) need to start informing the community of their plans for the platform. When

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 11/30/06, Carlos Guerreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext Andrew Flegg wrote: How far off is Bora? If it's next week, there's little point in continuing to port existing applications; if it's 6 months, then I'll carry on :-) Something in between. Unfortunately I cannot reveal the target

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 11/30/06, David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On tor, 2006-11-30 at 10:36 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: [snip] If Maemo is to be an open and community participated effort, rather than just an open source Nokia SDK[1], the leaders of the project (i.e. Nokia) need to start informing

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Carlos Guerreiro
ext Andrew Flegg wrote: On 11/30/06, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Flegg schreef: How far off is Bora? If it's next week, there's little point in continuing to port existing applications; if it's 6 months, then I'll carry on :-) You mean like the 'Roadmap' we both have been

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Murray Cumming
I think it's natural that, at first, the platform and the products that use it will be tightly bound. When the platform and products are more mature, it'll be easier to separate their schedules. But as long as they are bound, we can't expect companies to indirectly announce their product release

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread David Weinehall
On tor, 2006-11-30 at 10:53 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: On 11/30/06, David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On tor, 2006-11-30 at 10:36 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: [snip] If Maemo is to be an open and community participated effort, rather than just an open source Nokia

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [I'm subscribed to this list, so quit with the reply-all nonsense] Carlos Guerreiro schreef: Officially Maemo is still that, an application development platform with SDKs, but we are experimenting with community development and eventually Maemo

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 12:57:50PM +0100, ext Koen Kooi wrote: [I'm subscribed to this list, so quit with the reply-all nonsense] http://www.google.com/search?q=mail-followup-to Carlos Guerreiro schreef: Officially Maemo is still that, an application development platform with SDKs, but we

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 11/30/06, Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David's mail is pretty good. Carlos is obviously doing his best, so all I can do is suggest to you that maybe doing your best to irritate the people trying to help you despite a large corporate structure that has never attempted this sort of

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread David Weinehall
On tor, 2006-11-30 at 13:05 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: On 11/30/06, Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David's mail is pretty good. Carlos is obviously doing his best, so all I can do is suggest to you that maybe doing your best to irritate the people trying to help you despite a

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Miko Nieminen
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 01:30 +0200, Carlos Guerreiro wrote: Hi, Like Sardine, Herring is meant for application developers, hackers and tinkerers, not for end-users. To taste it, follow the step by step instructions in http://maemo.org/maemowiki/SardineGettingStarted replacing 'sardine'

Re: [maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-30 Thread Murray Cumming
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 15:35 +0200, David Weinehall wrote: Well, the amount of people working on this project isn't exactly staggering. Each day we face the choice - spend a few hours on reading the maemo-developers list and answering to questions about our schedule, thereby delaying future

[maemo-developers] Taste the Herring!

2006-11-29 Thread Carlos Guerreiro
Hi, A bit over 4 months ago the Maemo project released Sardine, a fresh and tasty bleeding edge distribution of the Hildon Application Framework for the Nokia 770 Internet Tablet. Sardine contains the latest versions of HAF components and some key dependencies. Have you wanted to get a