On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 08:59 +0300, Alberto Mardegan wrote:
Thomas Perl wrote:
2010/4/15 Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com:
I am now using HeAboutDialog as well... only issue is that it doesn't
properly render in portrait mode :)
Patches are welcome :p
No patches should be necessary
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:55, Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org wrote:
Similarly, as Ovi takes off, it is interesting to think about how
micro-payments for ones software could make one a bit of money (100
users at $1 each is a nice present); but whilst still having our
software as open source.
Inspired by TouchSearch, I've started to implement a standardized way
in my widgets some weeks ago. This includes handling donations:
The option window always has four buttons arranged 2x2:
- Settings: brings you the to app-specific settings
- Help: Opens the app help page, which is a maemo wiki
Hi,
While thats nice for app/widget developers, it sadly does not work in all
cases. For example both two of my apps currently in Extras (cpumem-applet,
Cellular Modem Control Buttons) do not have a menu, a dialog or app window of
any sort to place Donate button :( So the website or HAM should
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 16:50, Tuomo Tanskanen t...@tumi.fi wrote:
While thats nice for app/widget developers, it sadly does not work
in all cases. For example both two of my apps currently in Extras
(cpumem-applet, Cellular Modem Control Buttons) do not have a menu,
a dialog or app window of
You might also be interested in HeAboutDialog. It's in hildon-extras and
provides a new about dialog. The dialog has the optional buttons
Donate, Report bug and Visit website. For each of those buttons
you can register an URL.
Cheers!
Conny
On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 16:40 +0200, Thomas Wälti wrote:
I am now using HeAboutDialog as well... only issue is that it doesn't
properly render in portrait mode :)
On 15 April 2010 09:33, Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de wrote:
You might also be interested in HeAboutDialog. It's in hildon-extras and
provides a new about dialog. The dialog has the
2010/4/15 Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com:
I am now using HeAboutDialog as well... only issue is that it doesn't
properly render in portrait mode :)
Patches are welcome :p I've also ported the HeAboutDialog to Python for
use in Panucci, so if anybody wants to use HeAboutDialog from Panucci
On 15 April 2010 17:23, Thomas Perl th.p...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/4/15 Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com:
I am now using HeAboutDialog as well... only issue is that it doesn't
properly render in portrait mode :)
Patches are welcome :p I've also ported the HeAboutDialog to Python for
use in
Thomas Perl wrote:
2010/4/15 Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com:
I am now using HeAboutDialog as well... only issue is that it doesn't
properly render in portrait mode :)
Patches are welcome :p
No patches should be necessary since PR1.2:
Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
For example, looking at this page:
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/vim/
I see that you (together with Marius Gedminas) wrote this marvelous text
editor, which in my estimation took thousands of work hours, so I'll
happily donate to you. Does this sound fair?
Andrew Flegg wrote:
Do you know of any global-micropayment systems which have a simple
API?
I don't know about the API, but maybe one can have a look at Google
Checkout. It also supports donations:
https://checkout.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=105654
Ciao,
Alberto
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BACKGROUND
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A number of articles recently have talked about Ovi Store as the only
real app store for Maemo; massively overlooking
http://maemo.org/downloads/
Similarly, as Ovi takes off, it is interesting to think about how
micro-payments for ones software could make one a bit of money
Yes, I would definitely be in favour of a centralised donation system.
However, instead of the suggested amount set by the author, why not
have a general minimum amount (say like €1) accepted per app? Then the
the user who wants to donate, would select the amount and the app(s).
Thanks,
Sascha
Hey,
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Sascha Mäkelä sascha.mak...@gmail.comwrote:
Yes, I would definitely be in favour of a centralised donation system.
However, instead of the suggested amount set by the author, why not
have a general minimum amount (say like €1) accepted per app? Then the
Hi,
it's a nice idea, but... why user has do go to maemo.org website to
donate? Shouldn't we integrate this even in Application Manager and/or
in the About dialog of every application?
Having to pass from a website is a non-sense for me, just like the
actual Ovi Store :P
I wish that (for example)
Hey,
I would love any way, as everything is better than the situation now.
I tried to discuss it in 2008
http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:donation_on_download_page
I have a donation button on the garage home page of my product, but this
has very low success. A donation button in Appmanager would be
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:31, Valerio Valerio vdv...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Sascha Mäkelä sascha.mak...@gmail.com
wrote:
Yes, I would definitely be in favour of a centralised donation system.
However, instead of the suggested amount set by the author, why not
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:35, Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com wrote:
it's a nice idea, but... why user has do go to maemo.org website to
donate? Shouldn't we integrate this even in Application Manager and/or
in the About dialog of every application?
App Manager has a long lead time to get
Hi,
2010/1/22 Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org:
By having an amount suggested, it'll feel more like an app store - and
I *think* users who don't have to decide how much to donate (is such
a low amount derisory?) will donate, on average, more.
yes, that is good. I'd like to find, for example, 1€
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:37, Matan Ziv-Av ma...@svgalib.org wrote:
One immediate issue comes to mind - the actual connection of the donation
seeker to the project needs to be prominently displayed, while now it can't
be known.
Most of the time, I'm expecting there to be a one-to-one
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, Andrew Flegg wrote:
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:37, Matan Ziv-Av ma...@svgalib.org wrote:
One immediate issue comes to mind - the actual connection of the donation
seeker to the project needs to be prominently displayed, while now it can't
be known.
Most of the time, I'm
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, ds wrote:
Hey,
I would love any way, as everything is better than the situation now.
I tried to discuss it in 2008
http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:donation_on_download_page
I have a donation button on the garage home page of my product, but this
has very low success. A
I thought maemo was supposed to be a free software community. The
standard way of supporting applications should be patches.
I do not think so, we have end users who might want to support.
and
I never received a patch to vncviewer:-)
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:58, Matan Ziv-Av ma...@svgalib.org wrote:
Do you not think that if you ask for a donation (be it 1$ or 100$) for this
work, it should be clear what this work is? Currently the page claims that
you wrote vim. If you add a donation button to that, it becomes fraud.
A donation is voluntary. No one should feel obligated to do it and
it's not a requirement for using the app. Yet, if someone wants to
show appreciation to the developer, no matter if it's new app, a port
or just mod, with a monetary donation, it shouldn't be too difficult
for him/her to do it. Any
O Ven, 22-01-2010 ás 15:01 +0200, Matan Ziv-Av escribiu:
I thought maemo was supposed to be a free software community. The
standard way of supporting applications should be patches.
Indeed.
--
Xabier Rodríguez Calvar
Computer Engineer
IGALIA http://www.igalia.com
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 13:01, Matan Ziv-Av ma...@svgalib.org wrote:
I thought maemo was supposed to be a free software community. The standard
way of supporting applications should be patches.
And testing, documentation, bug triaging, icon design, user support, ...
However, you're now
Dnia piątek, 22 stycznia 2010 o 13:35:42 Andrea Grandi napisał(a):
it's a nice idea, but... why user has do go to maemo.org website to
donate?
Shouldn't we integrate this even in Application Manager and/or
in the About dialog of every application?
Why not adding big requester on each start
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 13:27, Marcin Juszkiewicz
mar...@juszkiewicz.com.pl wrote:
[snip]
But having Donate button in each and each Maemo app looks strange for me. If
author (not packager, but author) wants money for his application then let we
talk with nokia to make Ovi store more open for
Dnia piątek, 22 stycznia 2010 o 14:32:34 Andrew Flegg napisał(a):
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 13:27, Marcin Juszkiewicz
mar...@juszkiewicz.com.pl wrote:
[snip]
But having Donate button in each and each Maemo app looks strange for
me. If author (not packager, but author) wants money for his
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 13:41, Marcin Juszkiewicz
mar...@juszkiewicz.com.pl wrote:
Give them a choice? There are apps in AppStore which are available in
basically same version for free and for few euros so user can choose.
Maintaining the same version in two different places, with different
From various on-line dictionaries:
Donate (Verb)
To present as a gift to a fund or cause; contribute.
to present as a gift, grant, or contribution; make a donation of, as
to a fund or cause
to give; to contribute; to grant; to bestow
[INTRANSITIVE/TRANSITIVE] to give something such as money
Interesting question. I was asked by a friend at Red Hat if the value
proposition of the N900 was that it was Linux based or Open Source. In his
mind there was a very important distinction. Linux based means a more
reliable OS. Open Source means access to the source code. Neither of which
Hi,
2010/1/22 Matan Ziv-Av ma...@svgalib.org:
I thought maemo was supposed to be a free software community. The standard
way of supporting applications should be patches.
not all users are developers and patches are not the only things that
developers want.
--
Andrea Grandi
email: a.grandi
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 13:35, Aldon Hynes aldon.hy...@orient-lodge.com wrote:
That said, there are lots of issues that such a system would run into, as
the N900 is distributed in many different countries with many different
payment systems and for that matter, many different tax laws. My gut
donate? Shouldn't we integrate this even in Application Manager and/or
in the About dialog of every application?
Having to pass from a website is a non-sense for me, just like the
actual Ovi Store :P
i agree about the ovi store, but it isn't the same.
You don't show support by donating
It should also be a well known and trusted system. Unfortunately, the
only one I know is PayPal, which is not that great for micro-payment.
But it's better than nothing and many users already have a PayPal
account, so it's fairly fast to use.
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 15:58, Andrew Flegg
Hi,
2010/1/22 Jeroen Schelhaas ma...@jeroenschelhaas.eu:
If you want a donation button, add it on your about dialog or the
maemo.org/download page.
But like it's a free choice for the user to donate, patch, simple thanks the
writer or do nothing, it's also free for the writer to prefer one
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 14:04, Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com wrote:
my suggestion at this point is: someone write a working piece of code
(C, C++, Python) that developers can reuse to integrate a Donate
button in their About dialogs. The user will be able to customize it
with his PayPal
Hi,
2010/1/22 Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org:
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 14:04, Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com wrote:
my suggestion at this point is: someone write a working piece of code
(C, C++, Python) that developers can reuse to integrate a Donate
button in their About dialogs. The user
Am Freitag, den 22.01.2010, 15:01 +0100 schrieb Jeroen Schelhaas:
If you want a donation button, add it on your about dialog or the
maemo.org/download page.
maemo.org/download would be quite fine, but it is not possible at the
moment. This was my first suggestion 15 month ago:-)
Detlef
On Friday 22 January 2010 14:04:59 Andrea Grandi wrote:
my suggestion at this point is: someone write a working piece of code
(C, C++, Python) that developers can reuse to integrate a Donate
button in their About dialogs. The user will be able to customize it
with his PayPal account, the
Hi
Andrea Grandi wrote:
2010/1/22 Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org:
And what about packages which don't *have* an About box, or even a
UI? e.g. plugins for gstreamer Telepathy; Catorise etc.?
I agree. What if someone writes a wonderful media framework
for Maemo and someone else a little GUI
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