Re: Maemo-mapper vector data backend follow-up

2008-09-24 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Andrew Zabolotny wrote: I would strongly suggest against using Python and MySQL for such a project. Python has a very large memory overhead compared to C/C++, and a NIT doesn't have much memory to waste (I'd rather use the memory to launch some extra program). MySQL is not easy to set

RE: Maemo-mapper vector data backend follow-up

2008-09-24 Thread Simon Pickering
Hi Till, do you want an honest reply: Don't do that. Maemo-Mapper isn't meant to handle vector data. Period. Indeed, but maemo-mapper will not be handling the vector data, that will be the job of the render/routing server; maemo-mapper will continue handling bitmap data. These are my

Re: Maemo-mapper vector data backend follow-up

2008-09-24 Thread Chris Lord
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 12:59 +0200, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: Hi Simon, Am Mittwoch 24 September 2008 schrieb Simon Pickering: I fully support the work on Navit and other navigation/mapping programmes, this is simply looking at an expansion of the abilities of maemo-mapper. I still think

Maemo-mapper vector data backend follow-up

2008-09-23 Thread Simon Pickering
Hi all, A few of us sat down with John Costigan (aka Gnuite) after his presentation at the Maemo Summit and as well as drinking a few beers/vodkas discussed how to achieve the end goal. I just thought I'd start the conversation going here and summarise my thoughts (John has probably not even made

Re: Maemo-mapper vector data backend follow-up

2008-09-23 Thread pierre . amadio
Hola ! I have been looking at pyrender and did try recently to have a on the fly vector map rendering in python. It was so slow i decided to use pre made tiles instead. I also used most part of pyroute to try to make off line route calculation: http://sayhoo.garage.maemo.org/ It works but it

Re: Maemo-mapper vector data backend follow-up

2008-09-23 Thread Simon Budig
Simon Pickering ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Tile rendering == There's a list of OSM rendering programs here [0]. Mapnik [1] is the program which renders the map tiles currently downloaded by Maemo-mapper. This requires that the OSM MySQL database be processed and turned into a

Re: Maemo-mapper vector data backend follow-up

2008-09-23 Thread Simon Pickering
Hi Pierre, I have been looking at pyrender and did try recently to have a on the fly vector map rendering in python. It was so slow i decided to use pre made tiles instead. Hmm, ok, well that's indicating that we should use C then. I also used most part of pyroute to try to make off line

Re: Maemo-mapper vector data backend follow-up

2008-09-23 Thread Jamie Bennett
On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 14:13 +0100, Simon Pickering wrote: Anyway, good to see that there are others interested in the topic :) Judging by the various discussions on/off line I think there are many people interested in navigation on the tablets. It's a very worthwhile project and one that I will

Re: Maemo-mapper vector data backend follow-up

2008-09-23 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, do you want an honest reply: Don't do that. Maemo-Mapper isn't meant to handle vector data. Period. These are my concerns: - Plenty of duplicate data will get stored that isn't required since Maemo-Mapper will locally cache tiles that have been generated on the device itself. -

Re: Maemo-mapper vector data backend follow-up

2008-09-23 Thread Andrew Zabolotny
From Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:29:06 +0100 Simon Pickering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My two cents. I would strongly suggest against using Python and MySQL for such a project. Python has a very large memory overhead compared to C/C++, and a NIT doesn't have much memory to waste (I'd rather use the

Re: Maemo-mapper vector data backend follow-up

2008-09-23 Thread pierre . amadio
Hi there ! On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 02:13:34PM +0100, Simon Pickering wrote: http://sayhoo.garage.maemo.org/ It works but it eats too much memory. Thanks, I'll take a look at that - is it because it stores the data in memory rather than using a db? It stores the data in memory (to be

Re: Maemo-mapper vector data backend follow-up

2008-09-23 Thread nelson-lists
Till Harbaum / Lists writes: do you want an honest reply: Don't do that. Maemo-Mapper isn't meant to handle vector data. Period. True, but it does ... and it could do it better. I have a 200K point route (every railroad ever built in New York State) which takes about 20 minutes to load,