On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 20:58 +0100, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote:
...
Yes, but the question is not only about hacking, it is about end users.
Can end users somehow get such system (not called 2007) so developers
can ship one application (with Bora functionality) that work both on
such N770 and
Did a SIR transmitter make in into the N800? I have a Phillips RC9800i
remote control and I would like to replace it with my N770 or a N800.
http://www.hometheatermag.com/accessories/0406philips/
I've been looking around for a IR transmitter/receiver in the form of
a USB dongle and can't
ext Urho Konttori [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Could this be part of the .install file?
One debian for 770 and one for N800.
Yes, a .install file can specify individual repositories for different
IT OS releases. It could look like this (untested):
[install]
repo_name = maemo Extras
Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote:
Even without any OS update for N770, you could do an application that
works both in N770 and N800, if you avoid using some API. I think most
N770 applications worked with small or non-existent changes in N800.
(You just have to compile it in N770 SDK and test it in N800,
On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 10:09 +0100, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote:
Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote:
Even without any OS update for N770, you could do an application that
works both in N770 and N800, if you avoid using some API. I think most
N770 applications worked with small or non-existent changes in
On 1/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That will not be the case. Having participated in the 770 developer
program is neither a precondition nor an impediment for the N800
developer program.
Nokia will invite developers based on their Maemo/770
related activities.
And,
On Wed Jan 10 02:58:24 2007, Jon Smirl wrote:
The other trouble with using radio is the you have to tell the
remote
which room it is in. IR doesn't travel between rooms. If you carry
an
IR remote to another room, it won't still control the TV in the
first
room.
You could use a GPS receiver
El Martes, 9 de Enero de 2007 21:54, Daniel Stone escribió:
The developer device program is not done with an application, as with
the 770's, but instead you will be contacted if you've been selected.
Mmmmh...
Perhaps somebody should edit the developer program announce at
You could use a GPS receiver to sort that out, then have your music
follow you about the house.
I guess it is cheaper and does not require you to carry a gps receiver
to have a few wifi spots or bt receivers and measure the signal
strength on the wifi spot/bt reciever.
Dave. (Now scared
Hi, I'm Jaime Frutos Morales, a Systems Engineer from Madrid, Spain and
I'm looking forward to being part of the Developer Device Program.
I have some Open Source Software experience as a programmer, mainly with
the GTK+ toolkit (C++ and Python bindings too) and Gnome/FreeDesktop
technologies. I
Hi,
ext Igor Stoppa wrote:
As Amit wrote, when you move to 3rd party applications it's very
likely that one of those is buggy and does not behave properly
(i.e. drains the battery while doing nothing).
Process should not be doing anything (except sit in select() without
timeouts) when it's
Hello!
Mmmmh...
Perhaps somebody should edit the developer program announce at http://maemo.org/#date_07012007a , or add another entry to explain that this time the developers will be chosen and there is no need to apply as with the 770 developer program.
Otherwise, we will have a very
Am 9 Jan 2007 um 21:52 hat Jon Smirl geschrieben:
Is it no power at all, or just not very much power? With no power you
No power. Rumors said, that it is because there is nowehere inside the N770 +5
Volt, the
device runs with 3.3 V or less. Since I don't have the schematics, I can't
prove
Hello, I'm Jose Antonio Vico Palomino, a Consultant and systems engineer
from Madrid, Spain.
It wanted to comprise of the DEveloper Device Program.
I have thought to carry some applications for the new N800 and as well
for the N770 which I have at the moment. It is necessary to me to have
this
Jorge Salamero Sanz wrote:
hi all,
i've packaged gpe-mini-browser for maemo.
you can find the packages in http://bencer.cauterized.net/nokia770/
*warning*: there are very very dirty and quick packages. this weekend i'll
have much cleaner and well done packages in a repository.
i'll try to
Alp Toker wrote:
A few weeks back I updated the WebKit Gdk port from Apple's SVN. With
some days hacking it was rendering pages, and was easily cross-compiled
to the 770: http://www.ndesk.org/tmp/WebKit-Gdk-Nokia770.jpg
It is a bit of work and you need to know your way around Gtk+/gdk, but
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 14:01, Alp Toker wrote:
Why distribute a browser engine that is practically unchanged since
2004? You lose out on almost three years of performance, compatibility
and security updates.
gtk-webcore last svn commit was 12 days ago:
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Alp Toker wrote:
A few weeks back I updated the WebKit Gdk port from Apple's SVN. With
some days hacking it was rendering pages, and was easily cross-compiled
to the 770: http://www.ndesk.org/tmp/WebKit-Gdk-Nokia770.jpg
It is a bit of work and you need to know
Jorge Salamero Sanz wrote:
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 14:01, Alp Toker wrote:
Why distribute a browser engine that is practically unchanged since
2004? You lose out on almost three years of performance, compatibility
and security updates.
gtk-webcore last svn commit was 12 days ago:
Hello all,
First of all a big thank you to Jorge for his willingness to package
gpe-mini-browser for maemo. I didn't feel like jumping through all the
hoops/problems to get the maemo SDK to work with a recent kernel (as I need it
to use my RAID controller).
Jorge Salamero Sanz wrote:
On
Philippe De Swert wrote:
and well, this is the most usable *free* browser (might after minimo) ...
I reviewed the commit you mentioned. It seems to be a compile fix
necessary because nobody has attempted to compile the code for so long
that modern compilers won't build it.
That is correct.
Hello,
We are trying to write a single C script, not a gtk+/hildon application, to
listen for the connectivity DBUS signals.
We are using the IC API as shown in the Maemo Connectivity Architecture
document and we have managed to open and close WLan connections without
problems.
Things changed
I tried to install package maemo-explicit as described at INSTALL.txt at
Bora release page. However, this package seems to not exist.
[sbox-SDK_X86: ~] fakeroot apt-get install maemo-explicit
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package maemo-explicit
I think the 770/N800 break with OS support from ITOS2006 to ITOS2007
is reasonable. The 770 was a first-generation device, really the
first of its kind. I hope the N800 doesn't get deprecated in the same
way, and I hope Nokia at least considers giving some discount to
people buying the N800 that
On 1/10/07, Ted Zlatanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the 770/N800 break with OS support from ITOS2006 to ITOS2007
is reasonable. The 770 was a first-generation device, really the
first of its kind. I hope the N800 doesn't get deprecated in the same
way, and I hope Nokia at least considers
On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 12:30 -0500, Dave Neuer wrote:
...
Well put, thanks. I agreed with every word.
Andrew
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On 10 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What's amazing to me is that someone in charge at Nokia thinks that
independant developers are going to flock to develop a market-creating
software ecosystem for a $400-$500 half-open platform, especially in
light of Apple's recent announcement of the
Hi,
I just want to know whether or not Doing localization on maemo works.
I created a new po file (ja.po) as tutorial above using maemopad_1.5,
and installed to my X86 platform, and then execute maemopad as follow.
LC_ALL=ja run-standalone.sh ./maemopad
But it uses en_GB info instead of ja. I
Hi,
I think the two devices are rather different and not really competing
directly that much against eachother. Also based on Apple's track record
I think their openness will be much less than Nokia's in regards to this
device. The whole Darwin joke hasn't exactly shown Apple to really give
a
Hi,
An interesting thread about the iPhone arch
http://lists.immunitysec.com/pipermail/dailydave/2007-January/003932.html
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On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 19:45 +0100, Christian F.K. Schaller wrote:
I think the two devices are rather different and not really competing
directly that much against eachother. Also based on Apple's track record
I think their openness will be much less than Nokia's in regards to this
device. The
I am quite disappointed too. If 770 software would be fully open
sourced, there would be no problem. But I feel like i've been cheated,
and now I'm trapped with a device with unsupported software (opera,
flash, etc.), and I guess main 770 developers will move to N800
attracted by the 99€ offer.
On 1/10/07, Ted Zlatanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, obviously there will be 500 such developers now :) I just think
it should have been 1500 happy users with $100 discounts instead of
500 happy developers with $300 discounts.
Those 500 developers are going to create applications which
On 1/10/07, Christian F.K. Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I think the two devices are rather different and not really competing
directly that much against eachother.
The prices are almost the same, and the iPhone will do everything the
n880 will do out of the box, plus much more. Who
Hello!
Is it possible to initialize our C application (non GTK+/Hildon app.) and
attach it to D-Bus with libOSSO library?
IMHO libOSSO is intermixed with Gtk so you must user Gtk somehow if you
want libOSSO. Depending on your needs if might be enough to just
initialize Gtk main event loop to
Dave Neuer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Nokia was counting on the community to provide
that level of functionality for them, but won't pay us w/ the only
thing the open-source community cares about: code and documentation of
hardware.
Now that sounds as if you haven't watched very closely what
On 1/10/07, Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now that sounds as if you haven't watched very closely what happened the
last year or so. Claiming that Nokia did not provide hardware and (more
importantly) code is - in the best case - just uninformed.
Yes, I missed the post to the mailing
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 16:33, Tomas wrote:
Where can we get an exemple on how to write a little C script to listen
D-Bus signals?
Search the mailing list archives for any of dbus-monitor, dbus-s or
dbus-scripts -- all three do what you need (and are variants of the same
program). Do
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Correct. But since the selection criteria are quite unclear it looks
like everybody fears that he might not be detected. Since I'm interested
in participating, too, I would be happy to at least have some private
Nokia email adress where I can write a short summery what
Dave Neuer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On 1/10/07, Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now that sounds as if you haven't watched very closely what happened the
last year or so. Claiming that Nokia did not provide hardware and (more
importantly) code is - in the best case - just uninformed.
Hello,
I had a quite pleasant surprise today when I noticed that fakeroot just
works with SB2. This means that it is possible that debian packaging tools
could work. I'm not saying they do, and I can't test them myself, but
anyone who has experience in working with them, and who is not afraid
On 1/10/07, Andrew Flegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
Commit and update both work fine, but adding new files doesn't work:
8
[snip]
svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/mud-builder/trunk/packages/cmatrix.xml'
svn: PROPFIND of
Hi all,
I just bought an N800 (after wanting a 770 for some time and then
seeing the new one, I couldn't resist) and wanted to get started
developing some stuff for it.
I see that the new bora sdk has some python support. The docs say to
download the Python runtime from maemo.org, but I can't
Hi,
The developer rootfs and the repositories configured with its
/etc/apt/sources.list do not have pkg-config; if I follow the
recommended steps of doing 'fakeroot apt-get -f install', all the
development packages that depend on pkg-config gets scheduled for
removal.
Am I supposed to add
Hello,
I want to port an existing gtk program to the 770. When I launch the
./configure script, some packages are required and are not present in
rootstrap (i386 and armel).
My 2 questions :
1. Who to install the needeed packages? On .deb (where is the good
repository ?) or with tar file
What's the point to announce such a program so late and with
so little details? To irritate people? I would like to have my
discount right now, if I'm eligible, so that I could buy the
device right away, or to know that I'm not eligible so that I
could plan $399 into my budget for gadgets. At
Hi,
This won't work - run-standalone.sh reads /etc/osso-af-init/locale and
sets the language according to it.
Br,
--jakub
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Kimitake Abe
Sent: 10 January, 2007 20:44
To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Hello
I have been looking at the responses to the Developer Program Application
with great interests. It looks like people are ready to invest time in maemo
if they get rewarded. I enjoy spending time developing but I would also be ready
to pay bounties if some piece of software can be developed
On 1/11/07, Jean-Luc Biord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I want to port an existing gtk program to the 770. When I launch the
./configure script, some packages are required and are not present in
rootstrap (i386 and armel).
Hi Jean-Luc
My 2 questions :
1. Who to install the needeed
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