Scratchbox cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7 toolchain support?

2008-05-07 Thread Ben Martin
Hi, After my tinkering with trying to get a more recent ld I realized that I needed to install a scratchbox package or patch an existing one with ld features to get what I wanted. Having an updated binutils inside scratchbox was all fine and dandy for compiling using qemu to run the ARM ld

RE: Scratchbox cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7 toolchain support?

2008-05-07 Thread josh.soref
Ben wrote: Trying to run this on an n810 gets [EMAIL PROTECTED] hello-world $ ./hello ./hello: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by ./hello) Welcome to the wonderful world of c++ and glib versioning. FWIW the normal C only hello-world compiled with the

RE: Keeping Glib up to date

2008-05-07 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 17:57 +0100, ext Graham Cobb wrote: ... My issue isn't just with glib, by the way, the same problem exists for all libraries. In fact the previous out of date system library issue I had to deal with was a new entry point in libxml2. In this case I had to take (most

Who's who in maemo

2008-05-07 Thread Dave Neary
Hi all, I've been looking for a Who's who in maemo - a list of active developers (Nokia and otherwise) and what they specialise in. I haven't found one. I think that such a list would be very useful. In particular, I'd like to know when I see a nokia.com email address replying to a subject about

RE: Keeping Glib up to date

2008-05-07 Thread Graham Cobb
On Wednesday 07 May 2008 09:07:16 Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: Please make a bug for me to update libxml2 at some point. Usually I'm adhering to the well-known principle do not fix it if it's not broken, because of years of experience has taught me there's some truth in it (when people come spank

RE: Corporate ownership of open source projects [LWN]

2008-05-07 Thread Simon Pickering
About silence, in fact a lot of it has not to do with confidentiality but lack of priority (or too many top priorities in the hands of us able to respond). Sounds promising :) What about a short term plan with common objectives: - Raise in a structured way the topics that matter to

RE: Who's who in maemo

2008-05-07 Thread josh.soref
Dave Neary wrote: I've been looking for a Who's who in maemo - a list of active developers (Nokia and otherwise) and what they specialise in. I haven't found one. I wrote one for the browser team: http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/5/ I think that such a list would be very useful. In

Re: Who's who in maemo

2008-05-07 Thread Quim Gil
That's a good one. ext Dave Neary wrote: What do people think about this? Should I just get started and see how far I get? Some background: Bugzilla users who are Nokia employees should be noted https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2035 Also in the user profiles there is a simple and non

Re: Who's who in maemo

2008-05-07 Thread Quim Gil
ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried making a map showing where we worked and to whom we reported. It was valid for at most three months (technically, I believe it was out of date before it was printed) Nokia is a company that encourages changing roles and then it has this tendency to

Re: Who's who in maemo

2008-05-07 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've been looking for a Who's who in maemo - a list of active developers (Nokia and otherwise) and what they specialise in. I haven't found one. Yeah, I think there's no such list. We all know who's who but only

RE: Keeping Glib up to date

2008-05-07 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
Good day, On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 10:40 +0100, ext Graham Cobb wrote: On Wednesday 07 May 2008 09:07:16 Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: Please make a bug for me to update libxml2 at some point. Usually I'm adhering to the well-known principle do not fix it if it's not broken, because of years of

Re: Keeping Glib up to date (was RE: Diablo, do we need a separate repository?)

2008-05-07 Thread Quim Gil
ext Graham Cobb wrote: Nokia should be keeping all system libraries up to date and should be scheduling testing, to verify that the updated libraries do not break anything, as part of the release cycle. It is part of Nokia's responsibilities to its development community. Sure, and

Re: Corporate ownership of open source projects [LWN]

2008-05-07 Thread Quim Gil
ext Dave Neary wrote: We could do this in a wiki page, or we could put creating a brainstorm-type site in the TODO list for May, and use that. We discussed this possibility at https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo2midgard-discussion/2008-April/000258.html In the short term, a mailing

Re: Who's who in maemo

2008-05-07 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Aniello Del Sorbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that such a list would be very useful. In particular, I'd like to know when I see a nokia.com email address replying to a subject about the roadmap whether the person is a decision maker, a developer, or

Would like to know the status of (was RE: Corporate ownership of open source projects [LWN])

2008-05-07 Thread Simon Pickering
Hi Dave, Let's use this list as a template, then. Can people identify very specific things (and please, assume I don't know what the acronyms mean, and don't know the history behind the issues ;) and I'll get started on a wiki page? Okay, I'll get started then: 1. DSP SBC task - In the

Re: Would like to know the status of (was RE: Corporate ownership of open source projects [LWN])

2008-05-07 Thread Johan Hedberg
On May 7, 2008, at 14:18, Simon Pickering wrote: 1. DSP SBC task - In the roadmap there used to be (what I interpreted as) mention of implementing a DSP task to handle encoding audio for A2DP use (where A2DP stands for Advanced Audio Distribution Protocol and is a Bluetooth protocol for

Re: Would like to know the status of (was RE: Corporate ownership of open source projects [LWN])

2008-05-07 Thread nick loeve
Hi! On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Simon Pickering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave, Let's use this list as a template, then. Can people identify very specific things (and please, assume I don't know what the acronyms mean, and don't know the history behind the issues ;) and I'll get

RE: Would like to know the status of (was RE: Corporate ownership ofopen source projects [LWN])

2008-05-07 Thread Simon Pickering
Hi Johan, On May 7, 2008, at 14:18, Simon Pickering wrote: 1. DSP SBC task - In the roadmap there used to be (what I interpreted as) mention of implementing a DSP task to handle encoding audio for A2DP use (where A2DP stands for Advanced Audio Distribution Protocol and is a

Re: Would like to know the status of (was RE: Corporate ownership of open source projects [LWN])

2008-05-07 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
Hello, On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 12:18 +0100, ext Simon Pickering wrote: ... 4. AGPS - Assisted GPS [6]. We have an AGPS chip in the N8x0, it doesn't use the assistance feature. Is this being worked on? This is something we as the community could do some work on, if we had some sort of API to

Re: Who's who in maemo

2008-05-07 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Quim Gil wrote: ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It'd be nice if your address was @maemo.org, it sounds like Quim could help make that happen. Actually Niels, Dave, Andre, Karsten and you can discuss this and make it happen. Is there a policy on getting maemo.org email addresses? I

Re: Who's who in maemo

2008-05-07 Thread Murray Cumming
On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 10:58 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Hi all, I've been looking for a Who's who in maemo - a list of active developers (Nokia and otherwise) and what they specialise in. I haven't found one. I think that such a list would be very useful. In particular, I'd like to know

Re: dsme, Re: Would like to know the status of (was RE: Corporate ownership of open source projects [LWN])

2008-05-07 Thread nick loeve
Hi! On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nick loeve wrote: 2. Is it possible to at least get some basic documentation of what bme and dsme are doing (beyond obvious basics)? There is a lot of info. Search list archives for dsme (or bme)

Re: dsme, Re: Would like to know the status of (was RE: Corporate ownership of open source projects [LWN])

2008-05-07 Thread Frantisek Dufka
nick loeve wrote: Yep, I have been reading the archives and have compiled a shortlist of info based on past discussions (mainly that you have started! ). I guess I might start documenting what is known already and try and get it all in one place. Yes, please do if you can. I am guilty of not

Re: dsme, Re: Would like to know the status of (was RE: Corporate ownership of open source projects [LWN])

2008-05-07 Thread DJ Delorie
Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for bme and figuring out how battery charging works, one could strace it and see what tahvo/retu register it uses, I did this once for the 770 (by modding the kernel, same basic results). There are some undocumented RETU and TAHVO ports that

Re: Keeping Glib up to date

2008-05-07 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: Nokia's top priority are the products and the SW that goes into the sales release. Libraries such as Glib clearly move too fast for Nokia, because the APIs and code should be stabilised well before (several months) the sales release, and also because some

Re: Corporate ownership of open source projects [LWN]

2008-05-07 Thread Dave Neary
(Excuse me, many of you saw the follow-ups to this mail earlier, but I posted from an unsubscribed address, so resending for posterity) Hi Simon, Simon Pickering wrote: What about a short term plan with common objectives: - Raise in a structured way the topics that matter to you where you

openafs package install weirdness

2008-05-07 Thread Jason Edgecombe
I'm seeing something weird when installing my openafs package from maemo-extras. It installs cleanly from apt-get on the command line and works fine, but it gives an error when installing via the gui application manager and application manager exits with an error. The strange thing is that