Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-01 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/10/1 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com: On 1 October 2010 04:07, Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org wrote: While we are at it, why don't we rather include AdblockPlus enabled by default with EasyList+EasyPrivacy filters for Firefox? Blocking off ads and tracking scripts makes Firefox a

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-10-01 Thread Dick Gevers
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 00:49:34 + (UTC), André Machado wrote about Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?: Think in emotive computer. Think that user starts up your computer and sees a window with text: Good morning/afternon/night username!. And in another line,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-01 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 1 October 2010 10:44, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: Which extionsion a user wants to instaall should be left to the user's decision. Make the install easy but do not install any extensions by default. I've never used those extensions, except the developper bar. Somebody

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-01 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/10/1 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com: On 1 October 2010 10:44, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: Which extionsion a user wants to instaall should be left to the user's decision. Make the install easy but do not install any extensions by default. I've never used

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-01 Thread atilla ontas
2010/10/1 Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com: 2010/10/1 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com: On 1 October 2010 10:44, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: Which extionsion a user wants to instaall should be left to the user's decision. Make the install easy but do not

Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-01 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-01 06:38, Fabrice Facorat a écrit : I've been following closely all the Mandriva vs Mageia story. I found it unfortunate that we have to come to this way, but I guess there's a serious fracture between Mandriva and part of its community. We have no choice except to cope with this and

Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-01 Thread Fabrice Facorat
2010/10/1 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com: Somehow I have a feeling this thread will be a deja vu of the rpm vs. deb thread... Yes, the magic of mailists strikes again. And of course, the same arguments will be restated again because people can not browse back to the previous arguments. In a

Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-01 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 à 12:52 +0200, Olivier Blin a écrit : Fabrice Facorat fabrice.faco...@gmail.com writes: 1. host Mandriva tools on github or code.google.com. This will ease fork maintenance and tracking, to contribute back ( without having to have a Mandriva account ) Why

Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-01 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-01 07:23, Tux99 a écrit : On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Fabrice Facorat wrote: This is about making some decisions about some tools. Some of the Mandriva tools have outdate UI, cluttered UI and even are sometimes buggy. The situation persists since many years already, so at some point we

Re: [Mageia-dev] Hello

2010-10-01 Thread Gustavo Giampaoli
Hi zieduz Did you put your name in the wiki? www.mageia.org/wiki Cheers! Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-01 Thread Frank Griffin
I'm not sure what's going on with this ML. I responded to a post by Graham Lauder, and it ended up going to him but not the ML. He then responded to me privately, and we both agreed to repost to the ML. According to the gmane archives, he did, but I never received his repost, so I can't place

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-01 Thread Frederic Janssens
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 00:43, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Yup, the distro that make you become expert, something like that. One thing we must not forget is that we need people that contribute if we want to survive. A commercial distribution requires money ( and therefore users that

Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-01 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 1 October 2010 12:52, Olivier Blin mag...@blino.org wrote: But actually, just moving to git could make contributions easier, because of the ability for developpers to commit locally, and push incremental patchsets. It's easier for us developers but more difficult for translators that

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-01 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 1 October 2010 12:38, Fabrice Facorat fabrice.faco...@gmail.com wrote: As we know, one of the Mandriva strenght are the Mandriva tools, however Mandriva tools have some issues : - they are written in perl. Sorry for perl dev, but I do still think that perl is harder to understand than

Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-01 Thread Fabrice Facorat
2010/10/1 Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org: On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Fabrice Facorat wrote: This is about making some decisions about some tools. Some of the Mandriva tools have outdate UI, cluttered UI and even are sometimes buggy. The situation persists since many years already, so at some point we

Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-01 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le vendredi 1 octobre 2010 15:15:26, Fabrice Facorat a écrit : iPod and iPhones are inferirors products technically speaking, but they have better appearance ( good marketing, which is about appearance ) and so are successful. I don't want an iPod or an iPhone.

Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-01 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 15:15, Fabrice Facorat fabrice.faco...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/10/1 Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org: Substance counts a lot more than appearance to me. again you're somewhat wrong iPod and iPhones are inferirors products technically speaking, but they have better appearance

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-01 Thread Frank Griffin
Graham Lauder wrote: On Saturday 02 Oct 2010 01:14:36 Frank Griffin wrote: And you miss my point entirely, there is NO trumpeting, that's advertising, there is no exclusion, rather inclusion of a missed market Oh, come on. Trumpeting and advertising are essentially the same

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-01 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/10/1 Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.org: OK then let me put it another way, you have taught IT for 15 years. Teaching IT was only the smallest part. I was involved in selling, purchasing, advising - the whole area, not just that small marketing section. And I talked to people all over

Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-01 Thread Juan Luis Baptiste
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Samuel Verschelde sto...@laposte.net wrote: I don't want an iPod or an iPhone. I do but they're so expensive :P -- Juancho