I think this thread is starting to derail from a simple technical question
limted to a specific issue (reenabling qt-dev) to an ideological argument
based greatly on fear and paranoia.
Adding TrinityDE to Mageia, like adding any bigger software, is a gradual
step by step process.
I don't think
Am Donnerstag 24 März 2011, 08:23:18 schrieb Tux99:
I think this thread is starting to derail from a simple technical question
limted to a specific issue (reenabling qt-dev) to an ideological argument
based greatly on fear and paranoia.
It is? I don't think so. Unless you think considerations
2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com:
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan dmorga...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com
wrote:
Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
No, but the question is more , will
Quote: Balcaen John wrote on Thu, 10 March 2011 17:41
Le Thursday 10 March 2011 12:19:52, Tux99 a écrit :
The same question also applies to mplayer, which I just noticed
also
doesn't include codecs like h.264 and aac.
For the moment there's a work in progress regarding the BS so the
Wolfgang Bornath skrev 24.3.2011 10:57:
2011/3/24 Ahmad Samirahmadsamir3...@gmail.com:
It can't be free and have non-free firmware... previously the
firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has been
changed in that regard (i.e. I didn't see the matter get discussed
yet).
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Robert Xu wrote:
As I reiterate, Trinity does not interfere with KDE4 in any way, if
you keep /opt/kde3
Are you sure ?
For libs installed in /opt/kde3/lib, rpm find-provides will add the
provides for the libs on the packages. When an other package require
this library,
I opened https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523
--
wobo
Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com writes:
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan dmorga...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com
wrote:
Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
No, but the question is more , will we
Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
2011/3/24 Ahmad Samirahmadsamir3...@gmail.com:
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgandmorga...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samirahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote:
Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free
Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com writes:
It can't be free and have non-free firmware... previously the
firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has been
changed in that regard (i.e. I didn't see the matter get discussed
yet).
They were also on the PowerPack images,
2011/3/24 Thorsten van Lil tv...@gmx.de:
Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
2011/3/24 Ahmad Samirahmadsamir3...@gmail.com:
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgandmorga...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samirahmadsamir3...@gmail.com
wrote:
Has the
2011/3/24 Olivier Blin mag...@blino.org:
Thorsten van Lil tv...@gmx.de writes:
Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
2011/3/24 Ahmad Samirahmadsamir3...@gmail.com:
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgandmorga...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad
Donald Stewart skrev 24.3.2011 11:39:
I've never installed with more than one cd, but from memory, the
installer asks for extra media, surely if your installing from the
free dvd and have to eject it to add a non-free cd then that would
cause problems, or have I misunderstood?
Nope,
Installer
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:39, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote:
But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
care about the issue does not mean we should not care either. We
should
Am Donnerstag 24 März 2011, 11:43:57 schrieb Rémi Verschelde:
2011/3/24 Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com:
We already made such a difference by using different repositories, we
not continue this in our product line? We use a different repo for
non-free, we also should use a different
Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 11:15 +0100, Thorsten van Lil a écrit :
Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
2011/3/24 Ahmad Samirahmadsamir3...@gmail.com:
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgandmorga...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samirahmadsamir3...@gmail.com
On 03/24/2011 04:57 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
A possible solution for people with such a setup could be a non-free
driver cd ISO which they could include in the installation process.
Excellent suggestion, and it dovetails with another problem: being able
to do a network install over a
2011/3/24 Oliver Burger oliver@googlemail.com:
Am Donnerstag 24 März 2011, 11:43:57 schrieb Rémi Verschelde:
2011/3/24 Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com:
We already made such a difference by using different repositories, we
not continue this in our product line? We use a different
2011/3/24 Romain d'Alverny rdalve...@gmail.com:
Well, that's precisely debatable (and why I'll try to setup a relevant
survey through marcom). The ISO can be seen as a static commodity
storage; that it holds core and nonfree makes no such difference as
that those two media are available from
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:03, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote:
In the public appearance this would make a difference. As soon as
there is non-free contents on the ISO it is a non-free ISO. That we
provide non-free on the mirrors doesn't make Mageia a non-free distro,
only what
'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 23/03/11 21:38 did gyre and gimble:
I updated cauldron this morning, and later rebooted my desktop. My
r8169 on eth0 is suddenly having problems, maybe due to the new kernel.
There should be a new kernel later today (or maybe tomorrow). Fingers
crossed that
On Thursday, 24 March 2011 12:48:22 Romain d'Alverny wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:39, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com
wrote:
But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
care about
On Thursday, 24 March 2011 13:03:08 Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
2011/3/24 Romain d'Alverny rdalve...@gmail.com:
Well, that's precisely debatable (and why I'll try to setup a relevant
survey through marcom). The ISO can be seen as a static commodity
storage; that it holds core and nonfree makes
Am 24.03.2011 11:53, schrieb Michael Scherer:
Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 11:15 +0100, Thorsten van Lil a écrit :
What about a DVD including non-free packages but has the option to not
install them?
I think the majority of the users don't care that much about proprietary
issues, they just need them
Colin Guthrie skrev 24.3.2011 13:18:
'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 23/03/11 21:38 did gyre and gimble:
I updated cauldron this morning, and later rebooted my desktop. My
r8169 on eth0 is suddenly having problems, maybe due to the new kernel.
There should be a new kernel later today (or
On 24.03.2011 12:53, Michael Scherer wrote:
Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 11:15 +0100, Thorsten van Lil a écrit :
Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
2011/3/24 Ahmad Samirahmadsamir3...@gmail.com:
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgandmorga...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at
On 24.03.2011 12:39, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
care about the issue does not mean we should not care either. We
should rather stress the point.
Note that
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:13, Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org wrote:
Like I said before, KDE3.5 coexisted very well with KDE4 since 2009.1 on
Mandriva and Trinity is even more so being developed with coexistence in
mind, so there shouldn't be any unsolvable issues.
Maybe it did coexist well at a
Quote: rdalverny wrote on Thu, 24 March 2011 14:45
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 14:39, Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com
wrote:
On 03/24/2011 05:14 AM, Tux99 wrote:
Can you (or anyone) tell us when the build system will be ready to
deal
On 24 March 2011 11:56, Olivier Blin mag...@blino.org wrote:
nicolas vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org writes:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Robert Xu wrote:
As I reiterate, Trinity does not interfere with KDE4 in any way, if
you keep /opt/kde3
Are you sure ?
For libs installed in /opt/kde3/lib, rpm
On 24.03.2011 14:41, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
2011/3/24 Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi:
On 24.03.2011 12:39, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
care about the
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:18:03 +0100, Olivier Blin mag...@blino.org wrote:
Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com writes:
It can't be free and have non-free firmware... previously the
firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has been
changed in that regard (i.e. I
On 03/24/2011 12:41 PM, andre999 wrote:
Frank Griffin a écrit :
Is there an rpm or urpmq query
that will highlight conflicts between installed packages on a system ?
For example, if I installed dkms-virtualbox and then installed
dkms-vboxadditions with --force, is there a query which would
Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
2011/3/24 Olivier Blinmag...@blino.org:
Thorsten van Liltv...@gmx.de writes:
Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
2011/3/24 Ahmad Samirahmadsamir3...@gmail.com:
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgandmorga...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at
Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 16:22:15 schreef Ahmad Samir:
On 24 March 2011 11:56, Olivier Blin mag...@blino.org wrote:
nicolas vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org writes:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Robert Xu wrote:
As I reiterate, Trinity does not interfere with KDE4 in any way, if
you keep /opt/kde3
On 24 March 2011 21:36, Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote:
Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 14:10:39 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:13, Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org wrote:
Like I said before, KDE3.5 coexisted very well with KDE4 since 2009.1 on
Mandriva and
Romain d'Alverny a écrit :
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:39, Wolfgang Bornathmolc...@googlemail.com wrote:
But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
care about the issue does not mean we should not
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 20:08, Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi wrote:
On 24.03.2011 19:35, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
Summary (from http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy):
* core: stuff that is not Free/Open Source according to OSI/FSF does
not belong here. Not even
On 03/24/2011 04:37 PM, Thomas Backlund wrote:
I'm not sure it's broken.
Realtek is known to have somewhat crappy NICs that can tend to lock up
in a middle state if a driver probe comes too fast, and then they
dont react to any link or driver loading anymore.
One way that might help is to
Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 20:55:47 schreef Ahmad Samir:
On 24 March 2011 21:36, Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote:
Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 14:10:39 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:13, Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org wrote:
Like I said before, KDE3.5
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Maarten Vanraes
maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote:
Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 20:55:47 schreef Ahmad Samir:
On 24 March 2011 21:36, Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote:
Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 14:10:39 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
On Thu, Mar 24,
Romain d'Alverny a écrit :
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 20:08, Anssi Hannulaanssi.hann...@iki.fi wrote:
On 24.03.2011 19:35, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
Summary (from http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy):
* core: stuff that is not Free/Open Source according to OSI/FSF does
not
On Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:24:44 am Romain d'Alverny wrote:
Cool. Thanks to pterjan and boklm we now have a post on maintdb test
platform on each upload. That will help setting things up further.
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 20:45, Maarten Vanraes
maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote:
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