On 03/01/12 10:09, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
2012/1/3 Michael Schererm...@zarb.org:
Le lundi 02 janvier 2012 à 22:17 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
Op maandag 02 januari 2012 21:40:31 schreef Michael Scherer:
Le lundi 02 janvier 2012 à 19:41 +0100, Marja van Waes a écrit :
Hi everyone,
Can
Am 11.01.2012 08:57, schrieb Buchan Milne:
On Wednesday, 11 January 2012 06:32:50 Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
On Wednesday 11 January 2012 03:28, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote:
I mean, stop asking updates for mageia 1 just because there is another
newversion.
May I suggest that next time, say it
'Twas brillig, and Oliver Burger at 11/01/12 07:56 did gyre and gimble:
as you might already know from previous mails or from the blog post published
yesterday, Mageia is (again) attending Fosdem this year.
http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/01/10/happy-new-mageia-year/
Aside from
2012/1/11 Marja van Waes marj...@xs4all.nl:
On 03/01/12 10:09, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
2012/1/3 Michael Schererm...@zarb.org:
Le lundi 02 janvier 2012 à 22:17 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
Op maandag 02 januari 2012 21:40:31 schreef Michael Scherer:
Le lundi 02 janvier 2012 à 19:41
Am Mittwoch, 11. Januar 2012, 10:54:58 schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
Why? IMHO this complete issue is going out of proportions. Let's
remember why we *seem to need* this MOD in the first place. And what
will we find? The time-to-edit discussion, again. In the council
meeting where it was decided
On 11/01/12 10:15, Colin Guthrie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and Oliver Burger at 11/01/12 07:56 did gyre and gimble:
as you might already know from previous mails or from the blog post published
yesterday, Mageia is (again) attending Fosdem this year.
'Twas brillig, and Oliver Burger at 11/01/12 07:56 did gyre and gimble:
[...]
Looking forward to meeting many people there,
In a stunning break from the norm, I've actually managed to not plan a
skiing holiday over the FOSDEM weekend... Misc won't believe me but I
WILL be there!
Added my
Am 11.01.2012 10:54, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
2012/1/11 Marja van Waes marj...@xs4all.nl:
On 03/01/12 10:09, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
2012/1/3 Michael Schererm...@zarb.org:
Le lundi 02 janvier 2012 à 22:17 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
Op maandag 02 januari 2012 21:40:31 schreef Michael
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:56, Anssi Hannula an...@mageia.org wrote:
On 10.01.2012 15:07, Pascal Terjan wrote:
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 03:20, Anssi Hannula an...@mageia.org wrote:
The problem is that that balance was achieved by sticking packages in
PLF/main/contrib semi-randomly. For example,
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:28:15 -0600
Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
dlu...@okay.com.mx wrote:
You dont get me,
I mean, stop asking updates for mageia 1 just because there is another
newversion.
Uh.
As a Mageia user I would expect Mageia to package significant *bugfix
releases* and ship them in
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Florian Hubold doktor5...@arcor.de wrote:
Well, 2) and 3) are not valid reasons here, because backports should get
a similar amount of QA testing as normal update candidates, and for
the updates policy require a bugreport for validation through QA.
I think this
On 11/01/12 10:54, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
2012/1/11 Marja van Waesmarj...@xs4all.nl:
On 03/01/12 10:09, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
Le lundi 02 janvier 2012 à 19:41 +0100, Marja van Waes a écrit :
Hi everyone,
Can someone please help to fix bug 1956?
IMHO the best way in this case here
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:51:55 +0100
Guillaume Rousse
guillomovi...@gmail.com wrote:
Le 11/01/2012 16:09, Antoine Pitrou a écrit :
As a Mageia user I would expect Mageia to package significant *bugfix
releases* and ship them in the updates for the stable distro.
You'd rather read the current
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Christian Lohmaier
lohmaier+mag...@googlemail.com wrote:
Welcome to distro-isolation, putting burden on maintainers, giving
them all the reason to deny a reasonable request for a bugfix release
because it just is too much work to hunt for a specific commit that
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:43:35 -0500
Juan Luis Baptiste juan...@mageia.org
wrote:
Sure, you cannot be save of regressions, but what makes you think you
are smarter than upstream? What makes you so sure that not the one
commit you add as a patch to your package is the one that causes the
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:43:35 -0500
But how do you choose which patches you want to backport from the
stream of bugfixes done by upstream?
Because normally a single commit fixes a single bug and the commit
message says
Le mercredi 11 janvier 2012 à 11:24 -0500, Juan Luis Baptiste a écrit :
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Florian Hubold doktor5...@arcor.de wrote:
Well, 2) and 3) are not valid reasons here, because backports should get
a similar amount of QA testing as normal update candidates, and for
the
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 13:33:41 -0500
Juan Luis Baptiste juan...@mageia.org
wrote:
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:43:35 -0500
But how do you choose which patches you want to backport from the
stream of bugfixes done by
Le mercredi 11 janvier 2012 à 17:48 +0100, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Guillaume Rousse
guillomovi...@gmail.com wrote:
Le 11/01/2012 16:09, Antoine Pitrou a écrit :
As a Mageia user I would expect Mageia to package significant *bugfix
releases* and ship
On Wednesday 11 January 2012 19:33, Juan Luis Baptiste wrote:
Should the packager monitor all
bug fixing activity?
No we don't need to, we just need to look for the fix we are
interested in as I described before.
And how do one do that without monitoring most bugfixing activity or
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 13:33:41 -0500
No we don't need to, we just need to look for the fix we are
interested in as I described before.
Uh, you have a hard time understanding a question don't you?
And you a hard time
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Johnny A. Solbu coo...@solbu.net wrote:
On Wednesday 11 January 2012 19:33, Juan Luis Baptiste wrote:
And how do one do that without monitoring most bugfixing activity or
reviewing them, hunting for a particular fix?
To some people, that magic trick is not
Le mercredi 11 janvier 2012 à 16:09 +0100, Antoine Pitrou a écrit :
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:28:15 -0600
Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
dlu...@okay.com.mx wrote:
You dont get me,
I mean, stop asking updates for mageia 1 just because there is another
newversion.
Uh.
As a Mageia user I
Le mercredi 11 janvier 2012 19:22:23, Antoine Pitrou a écrit :
Just because someone doesn't file a bug against Mageia doesn't mean the
bug doesn't bother anybody, because many users don't report upstream
bugs to the distro's tracker.
(also, other users don't bother reporting bugs at all :-))
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:41:54 -0500
Juan Luis Baptiste juan...@mageia.org
wrote:
As I said, when there's a bug report on mga, we start investigating
the problem and go and look at upstream for a bug report there for
*that* particular bug.
So let me repeat myself from two messages above (!):
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote:
Le mercredi 11 janvier 2012 à 11:24 -0500, Juan Luis Baptiste a écrit :
So trusting and having bugs are totally unrelated. And if you doubt that
bugs appear, just see our bugzilla.
We trust upstream ( most of them ), and
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
“Just because someone doesn't file a bug against Mageia doesn't mean the
bug doesn't bother anybody, because many users don't report upstream
bugs to the distro's tracker.”
Simple, we won't fix bugs that aren't
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012, Marja van Waes wrote:
I can't talk for that minority, of course. However, I can talk for myself:
In such circumstances it is very possible that I'd agree to do something to
later find out I can't concentrate on the task no matter how hard I try.
I regret it wasn't
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 15:13:05 -0500
Juan Luis Baptiste juan...@mageia.org
wrote:
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
“Just because someone doesn't file a bug against Mageia doesn't mean the
bug doesn't bother anybody, because many users don't report
Op woensdag 11 januari 2012 21:13:50 schreef nicolas vigier:
[...]
But the main problem is not edit time, I don't really care about edit
time myself. The main problem is that there seems to be a majority of
people who think it should be enabled, that there is no good reason to
not do it, or at
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Juan Luis Baptiste juan...@mageia.org wrote:
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Christian Lohmaier
lohmaier+mag...@googlemail.com wrote:
[...]
You don't do packaging, right ?
Wrong. I do packaging, although not for any distro.
it isn't that hard and is how
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 8:56 PM, zezinho lists.jjo...@free.fr wrote:
Le mercredi 11 janvier 2012 19:22:23, Antoine Pitrou a écrit :
Just because someone doesn't file a bug against Mageia doesn't mean the
bug doesn't bother anybody, because many users don't report upstream
bugs to the distro's
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote:
Le mercredi 11 janvier 2012 à 17:48 +0100, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Guillaume Rousse
guillomovi...@gmail.com wrote:
Le 11/01/2012 16:09, Antoine Pitrou a écrit :
As a Mageia user I
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
And my point is that these bugs are fixed automatically if you follow
bugfix releases from upstream...
Apparently you like to create work for yourself, though :)
No, it seems that you like to read what you like to
2012/1/11 Maarten Vanraes al...@rmail.be:
Op woensdag 11 januari 2012 21:13:50 schreef nicolas vigier:
[...]
But the main problem is not edit time, I don't really care about edit
time myself. The main problem is that there seems to be a majority of
people who think it should be enabled, that
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Christian Lohmaier
lohmaier+mag...@googlemail.com wrote:
adding patches to the packages and releasing them instead of waiting
for a new upstream release is different from having the policy to
stick with whatever release was used when releasing the distro and
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 21:13, nicolas vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org wrote:
The main problem is that there seems to be a majority of
people who think it should be enabled, that there is no good reason to
not do it, or at least try it for a few months (as was proposed several
times by different
Le samedi 07 janvier 2012 14:53:59, vous avez écrit :
Le samedi 07 janvier 2012 13:58:05, Luc Menut a écrit :
Le 07/01/2012 13:23, Florent Monnier a écrit :
Hi,
In Mandriva I was using this command to make proper attribution of
imported .spec files:
$ mdvsys import
On 11.01.2012 16:01, Pascal Terjan wrote:
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:56, Anssi Hannula an...@mageia.org wrote:
On 10.01.2012 15:07, Pascal Terjan wrote:
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 03:20, Anssi Hannula an...@mageia.org wrote:
The problem is that that balance was achieved by sticking packages in
andre999 wrote:
We're talking about codecs, essentially the decoders which are used to
read encoded files.
If the patent claims are valid/enforceable (and most aren't), it is up
to the patent holder to decide if it is in their interest to enforce the
patent claims.
Since they will
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 09:23:20PM -0500, David Walser wrote:
andre999 wrote:
However I do agree that we should put encoders that seem to be covered
by valid patents in some countries in tainted.
If we really want a hard and fast rule, I agree that this makes the most
sense.
If you
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