Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread Matthieu P
+1 It is very important for beginner and old people. It would be configure during the installation. Matthieu Le 29/09/2010 03:13, Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior a écrit : Andre, This a great idea. Júnior 2010/9/28 Andre Machado afmach...@dcemail.com mailto:afmach...@dcemail.com

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread Maât
Le 29/09/2010 03:03, Andre Machado a écrit : We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux because of the differences between these two environments. A critical point is the difference between the programs used to perform common tasks. Thinking about it, I had the idea of

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread P. Christeas
On Wednesday 29 September 2010, Maât wrote: http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png i like this idea ! I like it too. But it reminds me of the Mandriva welcome page: The welcome center could well be the Mageia welcome page, in the same sense that the Mandriva welcome

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/9/29 Maât maat...@vilarem.net: Le 29/09/2010 03:03, Andre Machado a écrit : http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png i like this idea ! I like it only for this special case (first time user, etc.). I could imagine it as replacement of the Mandriva Galaxy Welcome screen,

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread Maât
Le 29/09/2010 09:35, P. Christeas a écrit : On Wednesday 29 September 2010, Maât wrote: http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png i like this idea ! I like it too. But it reminds me of the Mandriva welcome page: The welcome center could well be the

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread Robert Xu
2010/9/29 André Machado afmach...@dcemail.com:    The welcome center could well be the Mageia welcome page, in the same sense that the Mandriva welcome page had appeared. It could have your suggested layout, and a help tab/pane/button that would go to the welcome text + have links to help

Re: [Mageia-dev] So?

2010-09-29 Thread Robert Xu
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 07:40, Gustavo Giampaoli giampaoli.gust...@gmail.com wrote: i know you mean well, but would you please (pretty please with sugar on top), calm the f*** down. I am VERY f***ing calm. If I was some kind of crybaby, maybe I should feel disrespect because you wrote f***?

Re: [Mageia-dev] So?

2010-09-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/9/29 Robert Xu rob...@gmail.com: A good idea would be to keep a wiki page listing all the aspects of Mageia we want... like, We want RPM, we want plain-text mails only, we want a cool logo, etc... If you do that, people can go there for reference, and if we agree on stuff, you can

Re: [Mageia-dev] So?

2010-09-29 Thread Oliver Burger
Robert Xu rob...@gmail.com schrieb am 2010-09-29 Let's keep on topic, yes? This thread has no real topic, has it? A good idea would be to keep a wiki page listing all the aspects of Mageia we want... like, We want RPM There are technical reasons for some things, in the rpm vs. deb threads it

Re: [Mageia-dev] So?

2010-09-29 Thread Gustavo Giampaoli
A good idea would be to keep a wiki page listing all the aspects of Mageia we want... like, We want RPM, we want plain-text mails only, we want a cool logo, etc... IMHO that people is going too far in this moment. I mean, far in the future. Think that we have almost nothing yet. Not even

[Mageia-dev] Provisional Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct

2010-09-29 Thread Gustavo Giampaoli
Founders of Mageia project are working hard in many fields. One of those fields is to write founding documents. IMHO that we could/should provisionally rely on these: * Etiquette for mailing lists: http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Support/Mailinglists/Etiquette * Code of conduct:

[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer

2010-09-29 Thread Maât
If you run fast enough to http://donate.mageia.com you'll see something amusing... ...the last donator made a humoristic donation that raised the amount to show three times the Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything :) Fun enough to notice :) Cheers, Maât

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer

2010-09-29 Thread Tux99
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, [UTF-8] Maât wrote: If you run fast enough to http://donate.mageia.com you'll see something amusing... mageia.org !!! ___ Mageia-dev mailing list Mageia-dev@mageia.org https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev

Re: [Mageia-dev] So?

2010-09-29 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 15:25 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : 2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli giampaoli.gust...@gmail.com: IMHO that wiki is to slow. IRC is too real time. MLs are the right mix between both. With MLs you have enough time to think and write your idea very clear. And

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer

2010-09-29 Thread Maât
Le 29/09/2010 15:36, Michael Scherer a écrit : Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 15:34 +0200, Maât a écrit : If you run fast enough to http://donate.mageia.com you'll see something amusing... fast enough and with the crrect url of http://donate.mageia.org/ Ooop's

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread Juan Luis Baptiste
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:12 AM, atilla ontas tarakbu...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest to look at Pardus Linux's Kaptan tool. It shows up to assist desktop/system configuration to new user. Such as from network setup to icon theme. Tough it is only KDE app. Wow, this kaptan app looks really

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread Marek Laane
2010/9/29 Juan Luis Baptiste juan.bapti...@gmail.com On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:12 AM, atilla ontas tarakbu...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest to look at Pardus Linux's Kaptan tool. It shows up to assist desktop/system configuration to new user. Such as from network setup to icon theme. Tough

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread Thomas Lottmann
I guess the Welcome Center could also be a place to offer two other links/tools : - A button to link directly to the community page, introducing the forums and all the other community services. - Display on the welcome screen basic hardware information : Processor, RAM, video card and the

[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

2010-09-29 Thread André Salaün
OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ? http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg0.html http://www.documentfoundation.org/ -- A.Salaün ___ Mageia-dev mailing list Mageia-dev@mageia.org https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread Gustavo Giampaoli
Maybe firts, you should decide what would the Welcome Center do. I mean, Kaptan is a configuration tool. Display links is more a kind of information page. So, the Welcome Center should be an info page, or a full featured tool that can set most common things for newbies? Personally, I like the

Re: [Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

2010-09-29 Thread Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior
IMHO, LibreOffice! Adjamilton Júnior 2010/9/29 André Salaün andresal...@aliceadsl.fr OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ? http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg0.html http://www.documentfoundation.org/ -- A.Salaün ___

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread Juan Luis Baptiste
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Gustavo Giampaoli giampaoli.gust...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I like the Kaptan idea. Don't know if it's possible to port it to Mageia from developers' POV. Me too, I'm downoading the iso right now to take a look at it. -- Juancho

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread atilla ontas
2010/9/29 Marek Laane b...@smail.ee: 2010/9/29 Juan Luis Baptiste juan.bapti...@gmail.com On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:12 AM, atilla ontas tarakbu...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest to look at Pardus Linux's Kaptan tool. It shows up to assist desktop/system configuration to new user. Such as

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli giampaoli.gust...@gmail.com: I mean, Kaptan is a configuration tool. Display links is more a kind of information page. So, the Welcome Center should be an info page, or a full featured tool that can set most common things for newbies? I'd put more weight on the

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

2010-09-29 Thread Dubeau, Patrick
boun...@mageia.org] De la part de Gustavo Giampaoli Envoyé : 29 septembre 2010 12:51 À : Mageia development mailing-list Objet : Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter? Maybe firts, you should decide what would the Welcome Center do. I mean, Kaptan is a

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 29 September 2010 19:50, Gustavo Giampaoli giampaoli.gust...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe firts, you should decide what would the Welcome Center do. I mean, Kaptan is a configuration tool. Display links is more a kind of information page. So, the Welcome Center should be an info page, or a

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

2010-09-29 Thread Gustavo Giampaoli
I found both aproaches really atractive and useful. Kaptan looks very intuitive, easy and centralize most (if not all) the most common and basic settings that a person with basic knowledge could need after the first boot. However, wobo's aproach is also important. What happends if

Re: [Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

2010-09-29 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 29 September 2010 21:57, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 à 06:43 +1300, Graham Lauder a écrit : On Thursday 30 Sep 2010 05:42:48 André Salaün wrote: OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ? http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg0.html

Re: [Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

2010-09-29 Thread Gustavo Giampaoli
2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli giampaoli.gust...@gmail.com: we can have both packages :) +1 Of course. It's the most logical decision. I was wrong. After visit the LibreOffice web http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/ I've found that English is the only language besides this: This beta

Re: [Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

2010-09-29 Thread Thomas Lottmann
Le 29/09/2010 21:23, Gustavo Giampaoli a écrit : 2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoligiampaoli.gust...@gmail.com: we can have both packages :) +1 Of course. It's the most logical decision. I was wrong. After visit the LibreOffice web http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/ I've found that

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

2010-09-29 Thread Dubeau, Patrick
This is a nice idea Another moment to give information is when installing. Currently there are several images for promoting Mandriva (they are available on any mirrors, for example here : ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.mandriva.com/MandrivaLinux/official/2010

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread André Machado
Hey guys, I've read almost all topics of this thread, gathered some ideas and created a non-functional HTML prototype of Mageia Welcome Center. I would like you to do download it at http://www.sendspace.com/file/n29kae and read the README file and get their views for me here. Let's start

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread alktodostemen alko
Es al estilo de la pantalla de bienvenida de jolicloud, es una idea muy acertada, buen trabajo ;) It is the style of the splash screen Jolicloud is a very wise idea, good job;) 2010/9/29 André Machado afmach...@dcemail.com Hey guys, I've read almost all topics of this thread, gathered some

[Mageia-dev] Mageia, alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail.

2010-09-29 Thread alktodostemen alko
Soy usuario de Gmail y he pensado que quizás te gustaría probarlo. Te envío una invitación para que crees tu propia cuenta. ¡Has recibido una invitación para usar Gmail! alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail. Gmail es el servicio de correo electrónico gratuito de

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread André Machado
- Display on the welcome screen basic hardware information : Processor, RAM, video card and the driver currently activated. Can this be done using HTML pages or need some extra tool? - A link to sysinfo:// that offers some hardware information that could fit inside the welcome center as

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia, alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail.

2010-09-29 Thread Robert Xu
2010/9/29 alktodostemen alko alktodoste...@gmail.com Soy usuario de Gmail y he pensado que quizás te gustaría probarlo. Te envío una invitación para que crees tu propia cuenta. ¡Has recibido una invitación para usar Gmail! alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail.

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

2010-09-29 Thread atilla ontas
2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli giampaoli.gust...@gmail.com: I found both aproaches really atractive and useful. Kaptan looks very intuitive, easy and centralize most (if not all) the most common and basic settings that a person with basic knowledge could need after the first boot. However,

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

2010-09-29 Thread atilla ontas
2010/9/29 André Machado afmach...@dcemail.com: I'd say that Gustavo is right on this one. What do we really want : a setup/configuration tool to help newbies or a welcome page to help newbies recognized what the different apps in linux are for? Maybe both: we can start showing a page with

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

2010-09-29 Thread André Machado
Hi Olivier, The idea here is not only to give general information during installation but to create a welcome screen that'll help newbies get around a linux distro : what are the major softs to use to cruise de net, create text document, listen to music, configure PC, desktop and such.

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread André Machado
I remembered now that Welcome center will lead to creation of more two pages: http://welcome.mageia.org - the online version of Welcome Center, acessible from the same with news and links to frequent questions what will be at: http://kb.mageia.org - A full knowledge base in the form of questions

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread Thomas Lottmann
Le 29/09/2010 22:37, André Machado a écrit : I remembered now that Welcome center will lead to creation of more two pages: http://welcome.mageia.org - the online version of Welcome Center, acessible from the same with news and links to frequent questions what will be at: http://kb.mageia.org

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/9/29 André Machado afmach...@dcemail.com: I remembered now that Welcome center will lead to creation of more two pages: http://welcome.mageia.org - the online version of Welcome Center, acessible from the same with news and links to frequent questions what will be at: It will lead to the

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread Dick Gevers
Dear Andre! On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:03:05 + (UTC), Andre Machado wrote about [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?: http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png And this is supposed to cover my whole desktop? Please: no. I don't mean to be

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia We lcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread André Machado
OK, but we need put a online version of WC. Maybe, instead of put a FAQ list, put links to random wiki artcles. As to the knowledge base, I recognize that with the wiki, it really is not necessary. ___ Mageia-dev mailing list Mageia-dev@mageia.org

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread André Machado
Dick Gevers dvgev...@... writes: Dear Andre! On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:03:05 + (UTC), Andre Machado wrote about [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?: http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png And this is supposed to cover my whole

Re: [Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

2010-09-29 Thread André Machado
Nooo! unless you want the guy maintaining the go-oo/libreoffice packages to commit suicide :) There may be a maintainer for each suite, as there may be a regular for the Linux kernel and other kernel for Free. In the latter case, we do a poll;)

Re: [Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

2010-09-29 Thread André Machado
we can have both packages :) I say more: we SHOULD have both packages :) And shoud have too OxygenOffice and BROffice, this, the same OpenOffice but the Brazilian version, that changed its name due to a legal question with a local enterprise what is a ownership to OpenOffice name in this

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread Dick Gevers
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 21:07:02 + (UTC), André Machado wrote about Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?: The Audience is that users that are having your first contacts with GNU/Linux. I remembered ages ago a certain Redmond product asking me What do you want

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread André Machado
guys, I just found out that Linux Mint has something similar to what we want to implement, but the difference is that theirs has only links to the websites of our community and will have links to the most common tasks that the user will perform:

Re: [Mageia-dev] So?

2010-09-29 Thread nicolas vigier
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010, nicolas vigier wrote: On Tue, 28 Sep 2010, Lucien-Henry Horvath wrote: The kind of responses I expected was just : - Ex-employes are making the governance (oopps, you have responded thanks for that ;-) ) - We have in prevision to make a meeting in 1-2 weeks (or

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread Gustavo Giampaoli
I regret that I do not very much like the idea. But if everyone on this list wants it: okay. I think this Welcome center would appear in the very first boot. Just as the welcome page of Mandriva. And with a click, in the X, you remove it and it never appears again. You wouldn't see it in

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia We lcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread André Machado
I agree with Dick, for me the whole idea seems patronising. I have seen this described as being for newbies or old users, well at 67 tears old I certainly do not feel the need for this. Think in emotive computer. Think that user starts up your computer and sees a window with text: Good

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread Ireneusz Gierlach
I just hope there won't be a survey when you first install, because if you have no internet it doesn't let you do anything. You have to like go to console and do not cool stuff. I guess as long as it is not invasive it will be fine. ___ Mageia-dev

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia We lcome Center?

2010-09-29 Thread André Machado
Gustavo Giampaoli giampaoli.gust...@... writes: I think this Welcome center would appear in the very first boot. Just as the welcome page of Mandriva. And with a click, in the X, you remove it and it never appears again. You wouldn't see it in every boot. That's the point: user can