On Wednesday 22 September 2010 00:38:01 Tomasz Paweł Gajc wrote:
Dnia 2010-09-21, o godz. 23:34:07
Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi napisał(a):
On Monday 20 September 2010 23:31:21 Tomasz Paweł Gajc wrote:
Dnia 2010-09-20, o godz. 11:36:01
André Machado afmach...@dcemail.com
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nonfree/linux-firmware-nonfree_1.8/linux-firmware-nonfree.copyright
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On Tuesday 12 October 2010 17:34:34 Thierry Vignaud wrote:
On 12 October 2010 17:02, Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi wrote:
Restrictions:
- packages can only depend or builddepend on packages in main itself
- packages need to have an open source license
o unwritten exception
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 18:18:41 Jerome Quelin wrote:
On 10/10/12 18:02 +0300, Anssi Hannula wrote:
Do people have any thoughts on what kind of repository/media sectioning
we should use on Mageia, and what should those sections contain?
== Do we want a separated core repository
practically all codecs (like Fedora), or have them all in the
repository (like Ubuntu)?
I thought that PLF were on board with the Mageia project. Does anyone know?
They are.
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be held legally responsible for marketing software in
countries where the laws do not permit this. I don't really think would
be a wise decision.
Like Ubuntu has been? :)
I do see your point, though.
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, just
noting this fact)
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Anssi Hannula kirjoitti torstai, 14. lokakuuta 2010 11:07:04:
Michael Scherer kirjoitti:
Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 à 20:06 +0200, Olivier Méjean a écrit :
Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 19:31:44, Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le mardi 12 octobre 2010 à 17:53 +0200, Olivier Méjean a écrit
On Wednesday 13 October 2010 20:54:45 Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
About codecs Codeina will be available in Mageia ? I find it very
comfortable for new and advanced users.
Yes. It is available on Mandriva and I don't see any reason to drop it from
Mageia.
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, they really shouldn't be
mirroring those other distributions either).
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problems for users if not corrected.
Indeed. I think that the current policy already tries to enforce that. Those
uploads to backports before upload to cooker were mistakes.
What about when cooker is in freeze?
I guess we should allow backports to cooker backports then?
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by 64bit users, and
those are in main/backports (core/backports for us).
Or is there an alternative approach that I can't think of?
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On 01.12.2010 22:29, Anssi Hannula wrote:
On 30.11.2010 12:37, Thomas Backlund wrote:
[...]
Can we reach an agreement that this is the way to start the distro?
Yes.
and for refernece: The suggested layout for is:
* core
* nonfree
* tainted
For the record, I'm not a big fan
On 03.12.2010 11:45, Ahmad Samir wrote:
On 2 December 2010 18:43, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote:
Le jeudi 02 décembre 2010 à 16:26 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
2010/12/2 Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi:
For the record, I'm not a big fan of tainted name (too negative), but
I
what's meant.
The license of the packages is not in question (they are free), the
patent (etc) situation is.
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On 05.12.2010 21:47, Daniel Kreuter wrote:
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi
mailto:anssi.hann...@iki.fi wrote:
On 05.12.2010 19:36, Daniel Kreuter wrote:
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 9:32 PM, andre999 and...@laposte.net
mailto:and
restricted is
used by distros that offer a commercial repo as in pay to use some
more stuff.
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Do they have a patent on the name?
No, but it will cause confusion among users if we use the same name for
a different thing than they do.
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ffmpeg with all decoders/encoders) in their
main repository, like Debian does. Also, their universe repository
(similar to Mandriva's contrib) does not contain such limitations
either, containing stuff like x264 and mp3lame.
What about Fedora?
Fedora does not have such software.
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. They are in universe,
which contains all the non-core packages (like mdv contrib).
(Some patent-covered stuff, like ffmpeg, are in ubuntu main)
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Ahmad Samir kirjoitti:
Debian has a non-US repo... etc
There hasn't been a non-US repo in Debian releases in years. It existed
due to cryptographic regulations in the US, IIRC.
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However, given that RedHat sells their versions of Linux (with support),
one could question the motivation of the Fedora policy.
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. merging both
rpm-mandriva-setup and rpm-manbo-setup to rpm-setup),
but I guess that really depends on how the rpm*setup maintainer/importer
handles it :)
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On 10.01.2011 10:11, Daniel Kreuter wrote:
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi
mailto:anssi.hann...@iki.fi wrote:
On 08.01.2011 11:39, Farfouille wrote:
My suggestion would be to look at how Mandriva packages are done, as we
will probably
adopting the Fedora policy (with small changes like java=%java,
ant=%ant etc) seems like the best course of action, at least for the
time being.
I don't see any problem with the Fedora policy license.
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template says licence is 'CC Attribution-Share
Alike 3.0 Unported' but web application policy
(http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web_applications_policy) claims 'Creative
Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License' (end of the page)
Cheers
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to work, however mdv mirrors seem to currently include
a complete file-deps file.
Haven't really looked into this, though.
I am currently workarounding this by resurrecting a small file-deps file
in media_info.
BS should be working again now that I added /bin/rm (for procps)
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On 14.01.2011 17:00, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
* Anssi Hannula (anssi.hann...@iki.fi) wrote:
On 14.01.2011 15:53, Olivier Blin wrote:
Another common error these days is that file dependencies are not added
automatically in hdlist.
According to genhdlist doc, this should be done automatically
.
Would it have helped to remove it ?
It would have helped if triggered every hour, which does not seem
reasonable (I guess it was every 7 days at Mandriva).
AFAIK daily.
Anyway, my iurt fix helps not to encounter this issue anymore, with no
other trick.
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triggered for me yet, and I've imported kernels with big
tarballs...
I am maintaining a non-free game that has a 400MB binary ..
I wonder if we should have some size limit for such non-free stuff...
I don't have a strong opinion on this one, though, what do other people
think?
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/?p=linux/kernel/git/dwmw2/linux-firmware.git;a=blob;f=WHENCE;h=d807e25c5515d05ffe5fe949b480ae661eb079fb;hb=HEAD
[2] http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/licensing
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blino disagreed with this, and he thinks we should not
have these macros at all.
What do other people think?
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( translate : use mad h4x0r
skill ).
So sorry, especially for ennael that I let do the work.
Unfortunately I'll miss the meeting as well.
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of it as an external tool and see no
reason in importing it into our svn
I did not read the full list but I guess there are other standalone
tools that we don't need to fork into our svn.
Opinions?
+1 for no-fork for now.
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:
http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20110121084807.philippem.valstar.23877/log/botcmd.1295599743.jonund.log
thanks
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Sorry for the delay.
On 29.01.2011 16:30, nicolas vigier wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011, Anssi Hannula wrote:
AFAICS the above branch scheme doesn't work well with changelog
generation. As changelog is generated from [packagename]/releases, one
of two things seems bound to happen
in their taskbar or desktop (or just use ALT+F2).
I can speak only for myself, but I also preferred the two-level tree.
It has been long in my TODO to implement an alternative menu style file
that would make the menu like that, but unfortunately my TODO is too
crowded by other stuff...
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drakmenustyle.
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On 25.02.2011 02:12, Michael Scherer wrote:
Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 00:09 +0200, Anssi Hannula a écrit :
On 24.02.2011 21:15, Michael Scherer wrote:
Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 20:30 +0200, Anssi Hannula a écrit :
With a two-level system it would be considerably less and closer to the
~7
uses restricted and/or multiverse (which include mostly
non-free packages), and there were a lot of other suggestions.
There was only ONE that seemed inappropriate.
Ubuntu's multiverse and restricted contain non-free packages only.
Packages in tainted are all free packages.
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On 26.02.2011 22:20, andre999 wrote:
Anssi Hannula a écrit :
On 26.02.2011 07:35, andre999 wrote:
...
actually, any of those suggestions would be an improvement ;)
I did suggest contrained.
Ubuntu uses restricted and/or multiverse (which include mostly
non-free packages), and there were
, i.e. most of the names in the list are different from the ones we
actually use.
Also, a link to the Fedora list is missing.
Thanks in advance for reviewing this policy
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).
What is at stake is the accountability for each contributor, hence for
the whole project. What will matter is what one does and how.
And again, let's have this point discussed in a cool, informative,
constructive and efficient way, please.
Cheers,
Romain
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different
thing?
I don't understand what you mean.
Changelog is a log of changes made to the package.
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On 05.03.2011 11:38, Remy CLOUARD wrote:
On Sat, Mar 05, 2011 at 01:23:25AM +0200, Anssi Hannula wrote:
On 28.02.2011 03:51, Anssi Hannula wrote:
On 09.01.2011 01:15, Remy CLOUARD wrote:
Hello,
I just started to import the Licensing policy from the Mandriva wiki.
Here are notable changes
, but how can one subscribe to changelog@ ?
I wasn't aware we had one, and I don't see it mentioned anywhere in the
website...
Do we happen to have one from commits as well? It is something I've been
waiting for for quite some time now...
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repositories (mdv didn't have a non-free section until 5 years ago,
explaining why they are in plf), or
b) are completely unredistributable, and thus uneligible for any mga/mdv
repository.
[1]
http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/plf/mandriva/cooker/non-fre
e/binary/i586/
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that do not claim conformance to MPEG-2
NBC/MPEG-4 standards.
Actually faac is what this thread is about.
Where will we put these in Mangeia? 'tainted' or 'non-free' or a new
'tainted+non-free' repo?
amrnb - dropped, replaced by opencore-amr
faac - tainted
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those ? Is the requires on wine the problem ?
Best regards
Samuel Verschelde
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A depending on B, B on C, and C again on A, which I personally
don't believe are in the need of solving.
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license) and tainted
(contains sw. that is covered by patents in some parts of the world).
Should a non-free+tainted package go in tainted, i.e. is the tainted repo
for all tainted packages, both free and non-free
tainted, as thats a bigger issue than nonfree
I agree.
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On 14.03.2011 15:30, Tux99 wrote:
Quote: Anssi Hannula wrote on Mon, 14 March 2011 00:35
On 14.03.2011 01:01, Tux99 wrote:
Personally I also think 'tainted' would be the better choice than
'non-free' since potential patent issues are a more serious concern
than a
non-FOSS license
, so why prefer
that?
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by OSI/FSF/Debian.
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On 24.03.2011 14:41, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
2011/3/24 Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi:
On 24.03.2011 12:39, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
care about
On 25.03.2011 14:04, Frank Griffin wrote:
Presumably, FLOSS supporters are satisfied with the state of the current
ISOs,
I'd not presume that, as as previously stated they contain firmware
files without source code even now.
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On 24.03.2011 22:27, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 20:08, Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi wrote:
On 24.03.2011 19:35, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
Summary (from http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy):
* core: stuff that is not Free/Open Source according to OSI
this weekend...
(unless someone beats me to it for libdrm libva part)
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if that is not set
(note: initrds do not contain proprietary drivers).
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for others to be upgraded:
wine-1.3.17-1.mga1.i586
(due to unsatisfied wine32 == 1:1.3.17-1.mga1) (y/N)
Try --debug to see why is it trying to install both wine and wine64.
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On 22.04.2011 23:05, Anssi Hannula wrote:
On 16.04.2011 21:19, Anssi Hannula wrote:
Hi all!
I've now completed the implementation of the points from my earlier KMS
+ plymouth + DKMS + harddrake + speedboot + XFdrake + initrd stuff RFC
at http://lists.mandriva.com/cooker/2011-01/msg00107.php
Please push fglrx, it is an update to final 8.84 / 11.4, we currently
have a prerelease from Ubuntu.
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to do this?
I'd rename it to the more logical kde4-config-netbook and add an
obsoletes entry (this also avoids bumping epoch).
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configurations.
fix: crash with incorrect maps.
add: away log.
add: attack filter.
new tab in social window.
new chat commands /addattack, /removeattack, /addignoreattack,
/addpriorityattack
add: reset yellow bar context menu item.
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#1059)
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obvious, no?
Else wouldnt be there any complain.
They didn't complain because they simply used PLF freetype.
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(it tries to mv libraries around manually; not sure how cleanly it fails
with our alternatives), confusing users.
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This is an upgrade to flash player 10.3, which we always need the latest
version of (security etc).
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Single trivial bugfix:
- run ldconfig after alternatives call in PowerXpress switcher script
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this package.
I guess the most likely reason is that the driver isn't enabled/configured.
Use XFdrake to reconfigure the graphics driver.
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... and
for the transparency of every discussion !
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), and nobody has had the time to
update and/or clean+push the changes upstream.
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a version update.
Maybe the correct phrasing would be something like:
- Packages where some functions no longer work due to remote server
changes, requiring a newer version of the package.
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the version 2.mga1. Therefore, rpmdrake only lists packages of the
activated repos.
Core-testing is not backports. The behavior depends on media name.
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is not %ghost.
Also BTW, here is a package of mine for gootleearth from 2006 that uses
a similar system:
http://www.zarb.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/plf/SPECS/non-free/googleearth/
No need to make it like that, just pointing it out in case there are
some ideas you'd like to use.
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On 11.06.2011 03:05, Barry Jackson wrote:
On 10/06/11 18:06, Anssi Hannula wrote:
3. You cp files to %_datadir using a wildcard (*), but these
files may not be removed on uninstallation as you only have filename
lists for avatars/sounds/langs. While it may work now (I didn't
test
On 11.06.2011 19:13, Barry Jackson wrote:
On 11/06/11 09:14, Anssi Hannula wrote:
-snip-
Probably the easiest way is to use a fixed location under
%{_localstatedir}/lib/%{name} for the tarball instead. Then you can use
mktemp locally in %post.
Also, is there a need to use -q
On 12.06.2011 02:37, Barry Jackson wrote:
On 11/06/11 18:03, Anssi Hannula wrote:
- Best to add a comment in the %post script to remind that any new files
need to have a %ghost entry created.
(btw: an alternative idea is to create a post-script and the filelist
at the same time
/ rpm can help please?
cpio errors are normal during debug info extraction. They are most
likely unrelated to your issue.
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On 13.06.2011 17:31, Barry Jackson wrote:
On 13/06/11 13:24, Anssi Hannula wrote:
Note that your if ! [[ -d %{tmpdir} ]]; then check is not 100%
necessary, as %tmpdir not existing is unlikely and causes no side
effects.
I added that as the dir is created by tar, so if the tarball had
/dependencies.html
perl found with incorrect range == 2:5.14.1-1.mga2 (needed ==
2:5.14.0)
Is this a youri error or a real issue ?
Applications dynamically linked to perl need to be rebuilt for new perl
versions as the perl library is in a versioned directory.
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version. any help to find those packages is welcome.
e.g. to find packages depending on 2:5.14.0:
$ urpmf --requires :perl\[== 2:5.14.0
or to find all packages having a version-specific require on another
version than 5.14.1:
$ urpmf --requires ':perl\[== (?!2:5.14.1[-\]])'
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freeze.
So this will prevent backporting anything to mga1 if it is not in mga2
release/updates ?
Also, I don't see the advantage in preventing backports during freeze.
The backports are re-allowed soon anyway, and the upgradeability goes
away anyway.
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On 26.06.2011 01:34, Michael Scherer wrote:
Le vendredi 24 juin 2011 à 17:33 +0300, Anssi Hannula a écrit :
On 24.06.2011 03:10, Michael Scherer wrote:
Another rule that we could add is that cauldron should always be newer
than backports, in order to ensure upgradability. The same goes for n-2
On 02.07.2011 13:00, Sander Lepik wrote:
Hey,
i'm having some trouble with adding get-skype into backports_testing. blino
told me to cp
get-skype into updates/1 as i can't submit it from cauldron. So i did.
updates/1 is meant for updates, not backports.
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nonfree and tainted (yet the
pkg is in core)?
Also, the package downloads source tarballs during %build. Shouldn't
this be disallowed?
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consistent solution is acceptable to
me (including put-in-nonfree, put-in-tainted, put-in-nowhere).
There was opposition (from e.g. misc) to having nonfree stuff in
tainted, though.
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scheme (one or the other
or both).
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, it is considered as tainted.
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On 16.07.2011 15:17, Ahmad Samir wrote:
On 16 July 2011 14:02, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote:
On 16 July 2011 11:11, Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi wrote:
On 15.07.2011 11:10, Ahmad Samir wrote:
Hello.
As you've seen the thread, posted by Charles A Edwards, there's a new
- imported package flash-player-plugin11
Why does it try to pull phonon and half KDE ?
Fixed and resubmitted, thanks.
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On 18.07.2011 08:20, Ahmad Samir wrote:
On 18 July 2011 00:48, Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi wrote:
On 18.07.2011 00:04, JA Magallón wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:06:12 +0200 (CEST), Mageia Team
buildsystem-dae...@mageia.org wrote:
Name: flash-player-plugin11Relocations
/lib64/ in the x86_64 package and /usr/lib/ in
the i586 one.
(I think the email to the changelog ML resolves %_libdir/ depending on
the machine that generated the email, not sure though).
It depends on whether the src.rpm is from i586 or x86_64 build.
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, it is possible, with some added complexity (extraction of the
KDE files from the file downloaded by the main pkg in the -kde subpkg
%post script.
I'll look into it.
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of the
description is giving users useful info.
Maybe it can be moved to a README.urpmi, Anssi?
IMO it can be removed, Real content plays fine without real-codecs
(which is non-redistributable).
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when he moved files between
packages.
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source.
I slightly prefer a) to avoid complicating the policy for the rare
cases, but either solution is fine to me.
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.i586 be a solution so that the distrelease tag has higher
precedence than the numbers ?
If I'm forgetting something important that invalidates what I'm saying, just
let me know, it will just improve my understanding of RPM versioning :)
Best regards
Samuel Verschelde
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-2.mga1, while mga1 gets 1.0-1.1.mga1.
We used to do 0 releases in Mandriva quite often, and I don't think this
is necessarily problematic. If a package is a prerelease, the release
itself will likely contain the word git or svn etc.
Col
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-devel. For x86-64 the packages
are called lib64foo-devel so the rpmlint warning doesn't show up there.
Indeed.
Somewhat related:
http://rpm.org/ticket/80
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