Re: [Mageia-dev] youri/check (was Re: Updating python-lxml)

2012-11-27 Thread Romain d'Alverny
2012/11/27 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com: On 27 November 2012 04:31, David Walser luigiwal...@yahoo.com wrote: can you update python-lxml to 3.0.1 or is there any reason it wasn't updated yet? just because http://check.mageia.org did not told me to update it ;) It's missing an

Re: [Mageia-dev] what is this ????

2012-11-24 Thread Romain d'Alverny
2012/11/24 PhilippeDidier philippedid...@laposte.net: Is it a joke ? https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Paid_projects That's interesting. Someone want to be paid for his work on Mageia Does it mean that he will give some money back to Mageia ? Such a page might need an agreement before being

Re: [Mageia-dev] what is this ????

2012-11-24 Thread Romain d'Alverny
2012/11/24 Johnny A. Solbu coo...@solbu.net: On Saturday 24. November 2012 15.06, Romain d'Alverny wrote: - is it appropriate to host it/link it from mageia.org? Whats more, the article author have linked to the articles from the wikis Front page. https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Main_Page

Re: [Mageia-dev] what is this ????

2012-11-24 Thread Romain d'Alverny
2012/11/24 PhilippeDidier philippedid...@laposte.net: Sander Lepik a écrit : 24.11.2012 18:55, PhilippeDidier kirjutas: NO ! You mean someone is paid and create a third repo for something Mageia doesn't want to import... If that thing brings a mess into Mageia, we will see bug reports in

Re: [Mageia-dev] what is this ????

2012-11-24 Thread Romain d'Alverny
2012/11/24 AL13N al...@rmail.be: like: requiring that the fixes are done in Mageia itself (no 3rd party repository), and as usual that the fixes are done in accordance to our policies. You can't: 1) it's free software. 2) those changes will be first done on a separate repository before being

Re: [Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6430] Do not mix tabs and spaces

2012-11-11 Thread Romain d'Alverny
2012/11/11 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com: On 9 November 2012 21:44, r...@mageia.org wrote: Revision 6430 Author neoclust Date 2012-11-09 21:44:52 +0100 (Fri, 09 Nov 2012) Log Message Do not mix tabs and spaces Please refrain to do this on soft you don't maintain. What's more

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 final set of isos

2012-09-19 Thread Romain d'Alverny
2012/9/19 Pascal Terjan pter...@gmail.com: On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: Is that necessary? Instead you could have a checkbox install optional proprietary software in the installer. This allows for example magazines to distribute it Are paper

Re: [Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [5642] skip packages with no name

2012-09-05 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Pascal Terjan at 04/09/12 17:57 did gyre and gimble: On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Romain d'Alverny rdalve...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, there are some builds that get a strangely reported build

Re: [Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [5642] skip packages with no name

2012-09-04 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 September 2012 16:11, r...@mageia.org wrote: Revision 5642 Author rda Date 2012-09-04 16:11:36 +0200 (Tue, 04 Sep 2012) Log Message skip packages with no name Is that possible? Well, I am guilty of not

Re: [Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [5663] debugging...

2012-09-04 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 September 2012 19:29, r...@mageia.org wrote: debugging... Err... You can debug w/o commiting that... Agreed, I would welcome a way to get a sample of the files tree (what's under /home/schedbot/uploads) to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Marja van Waes marj...@xs4all.nl wrote: Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla. Couldn't we use another method than this? Like using Bugzilla's native whining feature, or an equivalent where each assignee only get notified of his assigned bugs

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Marja van Waes marj...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 06/07/2012 13:59, Romain d'Alverny wrote: On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Marja van Waesmarj...@xs4all.nl wrote: Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla. Couldn't we use another method than

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Romain d'Alverny
(removed -discuss from the discussion) On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Marja van Waes marj...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 06/07/2012 14:22, Romain d'Alverny wrote: Maybe it works better in upgraded Bugzilla :) No, it works in the current setup. A monthly (or every 2 months) reminder of bugs fitting

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Marja van Waes marj...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 06/07/2012 16:49, Romain d'Alverny wrote: Shall we try that? Well, if you replace bi-monthly by twice a month (that seems to be what you mean), then: yes, please! Yes. Ok, test will go in a few minutes to all current

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push

2012-04-05 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 08:11, Maarten Vanraes al...@rmail.be wrote: Op woensdag 04 april 2012 22:59:30 schreef Florian Hubold: As there was no real objection, and no other comments or votes for iceape, i've dropped it from cauldron. FWIW i'm quite unhappy with this. Related, i've also not got

Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline

2012-03-16 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 01:10, Anssi Hannula an...@mageia.org wrote: 15.03.2012 22:07, Dan Fandrich kirjoitti: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:25:40PM +0100, n...@gmx.com wrote: * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590) * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in

Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline

2012-03-15 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 21:07, Dan Fandrich d...@coneharvesters.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:25:40PM +0100, n...@gmx.com wrote: * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590) * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop * replace MIME

Re: [Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache

2012-03-15 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 21:51, Guillaume Rousse guillomovi...@gmail.com wrote: So I'd rather revert the change, and make lighttpd autonomous also. Unless someone can convince me there is an advantage having lighttpd executing as 'apache' :) Ah, interesting point. Should two or more different

Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline

2012-03-15 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 22:15, Kamil Rytarowski n...@gmx.com wrote: I'm in favor of removing all unneeded parts from mgaonline. There were many parts related to megapacks, server editions, club membership. If the .bundle is unused then it too can be removed. Yes, but cutting code out of

Re: [Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache

2012-03-08 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 16:48, Guillaume Rousse guillomovi...@gmail.com wrote: My point was just 'if only a directory is needed, just add it to basesystem, and don't create another package just for this'. Ah, yes. Why not too. It doesn't take much room.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] GSOC 2012

2012-02-16 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Ping. Any other input, mentor candidate or project idea for a potential candidacy to this GSOC? https://wiki.mageia.org/en/SummerOfCode2012 On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 23:38, Romain d'Alverny rdalve...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 13:24, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Google

Re: [Mageia-dev] stardict 3.0.3

2012-01-31 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 23:29, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Unfortunately, that's not really the opinion of the sourceforge lawyers. Where is this opinion documented? Are there source/reference/details about said copyright infringement reports? (without which the claim does not stand) I

[Mageia-dev] Servers downtime scheduled from Feb. 1 to 2 for maintenance

2012-01-30 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Hello everyone, some Mageia servers will be down from Wednesday Feb. 1st to Thursday Feb. 2nd for maintenance. Particularly, the following services will be unavailable: - our LDAP/user identity db, - build system, - Bugzilla, - all mailing-lists hosted on ml.mageia.org, - Wiki, - forums. So...

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fosdem 2012 - Mageia stand

2012-01-29 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 21:36, Bernard Siaud alias Troumad li...@siaud.org wrote: Can someone from mageia go to this meeting for speak with the developer of Mandriva ? Of course, if welcome *. But there's no time/place/invitation set and apart from this wiki page, no one heard of this meeting.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fosdem 2012 - Mageia stand

2012-01-28 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 09:39, Bernard Siaud alias Troumad li...@siaud.org wrote: Is it possible to work together again? The right question is: do we go the same road? partial answer is: we don't know about theirs at this time. If they take the time to build such an alternative, it might be

Re: [Mageia-dev] Official VM images for Mageia 2?

2012-01-26 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 18:35, zezinho lists.jjo...@free.fr wrote: Le mercredi 25 janvier 2012 16:30:23, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : I'd like to discuss/plan how we can build and distribute ready to use VM images of Mageia 2 along with original ISOs, from our download pages. I use LiveCD

Re: [Mageia-dev] Official VM images for Mageia 2?

2012-01-26 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:16, Buchan Milne bgmi...@staff.telkomsa.net wrote: On Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:30:23 Romain d'Alverny wrote: Generic VM images, or ones targetted at specific uses? If specific uses, it might be worthwhile considering live ISOs targetted at the use case

[Mageia-dev] Official VM images for Mageia 2?

2012-01-25 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Hi there, I'd like to discuss/plan how we can build and distribute ready to use VM images of Mageia 2 along with original ISOs, from our download pages. Target VMs: Xen, VMWare, Virtualbox, Vagrant (with a minimal install + specific config), other, you name it, as long as it can be managed (best

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mozilla is switching to MPLv2

2012-01-17 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 09:10, Florian Hubold doktor5...@arcor.de wrote: Am 17.01.2012 01:20, schrieb Kamil Rytarowski: Please be aware of licenses. http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/01/06/1752240/mozilla-public-license-20-released https://www.mozilla.org/MPL/2.0/

Re: [Mageia-dev] please stop doing bugs for updating magia 1

2012-01-12 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 21:25, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+mag...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Florian Hubold doktor5...@arcor.de wrote: Am 12.01.2012 19:01, schrieb Christian Lohmaier: [..] PS: Maybe next time you could improve on your wording, the policy may

Re: [Mageia-dev] PHP + phpBB mod capabilities needed to fix bug 1956 - please help

2012-01-11 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 21:13, nicolas vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org wrote: The main problem is that there seems to be a majority of people who think it should be enabled, that there is no good reason to not do it, or at least try it for a few months (as was proposed several times by different

[Mageia-dev] references to outside web sites/wiki

2012-01-04 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Hi! (same post sent to mageia-dev) If you find, or wrote, in our wiki (http://wiki.mageia.org/en/ ) stuff that references documentation hosted on the MDV wiki (http://wiki.mandriva.com/ ), it is a good idea to not only reference it now, but to really import the content into our own wiki, now.

Re: [Mageia-dev] references to outside web sites/wiki

2012-01-04 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 22:36, Johnny A. Solbu coo...@solbu.net wrote: On Wednesday 04 January 2012 21:06, Romain d'Alverny wrote: wiki.mandriva.com may be shut down for good in just a few days What? Are Mandriva serisouly considering closing down the Wiki? Mandriva is on the path to filing

[Mageia-dev] isocheck, quick basic checks for built ISOs

2011-12-16 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Hello there, Damien and I uploaded soft/isocheck (http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/isocheck/trunk/) several days ago. It tests for basic rule-based things in a built ISO (name, size, checksums, headers, and some contents so far) and can start to save a lot of time. While it still needs

Re: [Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2359] coding style update (perl_checker)

2011-12-10 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 18:59, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 December 2011 18:29,  r...@mageia.org wrote: coding style update (perl_checker) uh? Tools.pm doesn't currently pass perl_checker Right; but I couldn't see why that was a syntax error at that point (and the

Re: [Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2359] coding style update (perl_checker)

2011-12-10 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 20:37, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 December 2011 20:25, Romain d'Alverny rdalve...@gmail.com wrote:    if ((@info{qw(name version release variant arch medium build ext)}) = $name =~         m/^(Mageia)-(\d+)-((?:alpha|beta|RC)\d

Re: [Mageia-dev] Teamviewer and X86_64 build . . .

2011-11-28 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Bringing a small bit of controversy, not on the very topic, sorry, but on a few remarks. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 15:25, Oliver Burger oliver@googlemail.com wrote: Am Montag, 28. November 2011, 15:10:01 schrieb Florian Hubold: I don't agree. I do think our main goal should be to provide a

Re: [Mageia-dev] alpha 1 release info preparation

2011-11-24 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 20:58, Dick Gevers dvgev...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:04:56 +0100, Romain d'Alverny wrote about Re: So please see https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_alpha1 as the canvas and update as you see fit. Ping? Alpha 1 release is in 3 days, and it cannot go

Re: [Mageia-dev] alpha 1 release info preparation

2011-11-22 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 17:43, Romain d'Alverny rdalve...@gmail.com wrote: alpha1 ISOs are on their way for this Friday (Nov. 25th) and we need to gather and prepare info about:  - what ISOs will be available,  - what's new and how to handle it (systemd, but not only)  - what's is already

[Mageia-dev] alpha 1 release info preparation

2011-11-21 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Hi there, alpha1 ISOs are on their way for this Friday (Nov. 25th) and we need to gather and prepare info about: - what ISOs will be available, - what's new and how to handle it (systemd, but not only) - what's is already known not to work, - what to test and how to report bugs. So please

Re: [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bug statuses and workflow

2011-10-20 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 23:30, Samuel Verschelde sto...@laposte.net wrote: CLOSED replaces RESOLVED, because I think it's nicer for the bug reporter if we close bugs rather than consider them resolved when the reason for closing is WONT-FIX, DUPLICATE, OLD, etc., statuses that obviously don't

Re: [Mageia-dev] Proposal for bug statuses and workflow

2011-10-20 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:43, Guillaume Rousse guillomovi...@gmail.com wrote: Le 20/10/2011 10:26, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : If the RESOLVED status in Bugzilla had been understood as SOLVED, then RESOLVED - FIXED would be a pleonasm. You can solve a problem differently than fixing

Re: [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?

2011-07-12 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 23:08, Balcaen John mik...@mageia.org wrote: On Tuesday 12 July 2011 16:48:58 andre999 wrote: [...] For all these reasons, I think that it is much more appropriate to wait to be approached by the patent holder. (If not ourselves, then some other distro.) I hope

Re: [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?

2011-07-09 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Speaking of the software patent stuff, the Debian Project just released a Community Distribution Patent Policy FAQ here: http://www.debian.org/reports/patent-faq (announce: http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110709 ). Romain

Re: [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?

2011-07-06 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:10, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: If we go back to the beginning of the discussion where to put such packages which were in PLF we made a clear difference: 1. All non-free goes into non-free 2. Software which may be illegal in some countries (mostly

Re: [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?

2011-07-06 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 14:04, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 July 2011 13:58, Romain d'Alverny rdalve...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:10, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: If we go back to the beginning of the discussion where to put such packages

Re: [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?

2011-07-06 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 15:04, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 July 2011 14:27, Romain d'Alverny rdalve...@gmail.com wrote: I understand this as: software that might be free or open source = can be not free or open source. might expressed the possibility, not the requirement

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia Advisories Database

2011-06-28 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Hi, On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 15:34, Samuel Verschelde sto...@laposte.net wrote: Le mardi 28 juin 2011 15:20:33, nicolas vigier a écrit : In order to send updates advisories, and have a web page listing all previous advisories, we need to create a database to store them. So I think it should

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

2011-06-14 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 15:38, Lee Forest lee...@gmail.com wrote: And keeping one golden rule of software development in mind, don't let your system do redundant tasks. As golden as the need to not to have redundancy: it depends. Redundancy can be very, very appreciated. But not always in a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tainted build

2011-05-31 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 16:31, andre999 and...@laposte.net wrote: Michael Scherer a écrit : Supixel rendering, there is a patent on it : http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/freetype/2006-09/msg00064.html The reference is from September 2006, almost 5 years old.  There is no indication of

Re: [Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions

2011-05-27 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 14:49, Marcello Anni marcello.a...@alice.it wrote: no (as i explain below), the communication is ok, is the kindness and the explanation of Anne that disappointed me. Note to self for next time: take a photo of ennael handing a huge sign It's freeze time! with a large

Re: [Mageia-dev] Credits for Mageia

2011-05-25 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 16:05, Anne nicolas enn...@mageia.org wrote: Quick questions about credits. I'm on it to update credits about Mageia contributors. What shall we do about previous Mandriva contributors inside ? - remove it as we are talking about Mageia current distro - keep all list

Re: [Mageia-dev] about icon Join Mageia Community

2011-05-20 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Hi, On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 22:20, Luc Menut lme...@free.fr wrote: Currently, the desktop's icon Join Mageia Community still directs to htts://identity.mageia.org. It was a good link for testers of pre-release. But I wonder if it isn't a bit harsh for newcomers and average linux users of

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion: what to do with iso?

2011-05-02 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 08:52, Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote: So, I was talking to someone i know about Mageia, and she poked around the site, but then asked how to put the iso on an usbstick, since her netbook didn't have cdrom. I had to admit i didn't know exactly how,

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-Dev]Default directory for wallpapers

2011-05-02 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 19:26, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote: As you can see it's a jumble, each DE has a different idea of where wallpapers should go; and it becomes more confusing when the same issue is re-discussed afresh in a whole new thread, saying the same things that were

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tainted Software - once more

2011-04-14 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 16:02, Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com wrote: On 04/14/2011 07:28 AM, Tux99 wrote: Does anyone know what the status of the buildsystem with regards to building dual core/tainted packages from a single source rpm is? Not done yet. It's in sysadmin team's TODO (the

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-25 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:09, Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org wrote: You are missing the point. QT3 is already part of Mageia and it wasn't me who added it. All I'm asking is if there is any compelling reason not to enable qt3-devel in the existing qt3 source package that is part of Mageia. Then

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-25 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:37, Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org wrote: Quote: rdalverny wrote on Fri, 25 March 2011 10:30 Wait. What you seem to forget is that this is not only about rights but too about duties. The freedom above comes from people that take their time to craft and package things,

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-25 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:33, Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org wrote: Quote: rdalverny wrote on Fri, 25 March 2011 10:53 If you can't work here by that, or if you are not happy with how things go here, you are free to discuss this openly with members of the council or of the board to sort it out.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer

2011-03-24 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:39, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not care about the issue does not mean we should not care either. We should

Re: [Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer

2011-03-24 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:03, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: In the public appearance this would make a difference. As soon as there is non-free contents on the ISO it is a non-free ISO. That we provide non-free on the mirrors doesn't make Mageia a non-free distro, only what

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-24 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:13, Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org wrote: Like I said before, KDE3.5 coexisted very well with KDE4 since 2009.1 on Mandriva and Trinity is even more so being developed with coexistence in mind, so there shouldn't be any unsolvable issues. Maybe it did coexist well at a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer

2011-03-24 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 20:08, Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi wrote: On 24.03.2011 19:35, Romain d'Alverny wrote: Summary (from http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy):  * core: stuff that is not Free/Open Source according to OSI/FSF does not belong here. Not even closed

[Mageia-dev] buildsystem = maintainers db link test

2011-03-23 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Hi there, maintdb is making some progress and we could test it already with the buildsystem to push it some data. Here is how it works so far: * a package P gets submitted by ennael; * buildsystem builds it; * buildsystem POSTs (P, ennael) to maintdb; * maintdb keeps a record of that; * as

Re: [Mageia-dev] [717] do not hardcode mirrors API path, use variables from product.id

2011-03-22 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 04:21, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 March 2011 23:57,  r...@mageia.org wrote: Modified: drakx/trunk/perl-install/mirror.pm === --- drakx/trunk/perl-install/mirror.pm        

[Mageia-dev] building a dashboard for the whole build chain

2011-03-22 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Hi there, just a quick request for comments on feasibility for the attached mockup (with lots of improbable figures). It's still ugly of course. The goal is to have a high-level report of the whole chain of building the distribution, step by step to visually advocate: * checkpoints along the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package

2011-03-11 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 00:35, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Le vendredi 11 mars 2011 à 00:28 +0100, nicolas vigier a écrit : On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Christiaan Welvaart wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, nicolas vigier wrote: Unfortunately the seamonkey name and logos are trademarked and the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package

2011-03-11 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:51, nicolas vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Romain d'Alverny wrote: Wasn''t there a license change regarding the Firefox logo in the end of 2010, that was related to this? Yes : http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933 Right, thanks

[Mageia-dev] artwork team, packager/dev assistance needed

2011-03-10 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Hi there, artwork team is getting its hands on the bootstrap and installer processes; backgrounds/screensavers are incoming too; and it will need to do so on the graphic theme (ia ora so far). For now, the team needs assistance from packagers/developers on these modules: - drakx (installer -

Re: [Mageia-dev] Organizing work with apprentices packagers

2011-03-03 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:04, Angelo Naselli anase...@linux.it wrote: Is there a way to get it in other way (ical for contact or similar) without the need of creating another mail account? Reload http://mageia.org/en/calendar/ , you now have direct links to ICS calendars at the bottom (thanks

[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Hi there, in the past few days/hours, on sysadmin list has a discussion arisen about publishing packager email into commit/change log; you can check the whole thread, here are three starting points of it: * https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-sysadm/2011-March/002946.html *

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identity verification broken ?

2011-03-02 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 19:39, Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com wrote: I previously registered with the Mageia identity server, but when I try to log in, I get incorrect user name or password .  I went through the Reset Password process, and the server must know me because it included my

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identity verification broken ?

2011-03-02 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 18:44, Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com wrote: Romain d'Alverny wrote:  - did you try alternatively with your login, instead of your email? That did it, using just ftg rather than the full email address.  The confusion stems from the fact that bugzilla, which keeps

Re: [Mageia-dev] mirror policy howto updates

2011-03-01 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 14:28, Olivier Thauvin nanar...@nanardon.zarb.org wrote: * Romain d'Alverny (rdalve...@gmail.com) wrote:  * have a clear expiration policy (hard to define before having the support policy setup) This cycle cannot be less the support time of a distrib, but the distro

Re: [Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms)

2011-02-22 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:57, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 10:13 +0100, Philippe DIDIER a écrit : Just seen that mikala added panotools in the repository . (some algorythms library to build panoramic photographs) Very happy with this ! (thanks a lot...)

Re: [Mageia-dev] New bugzilla proposal

2011-01-10 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 00:46, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Le vendredi 07 janvier 2011 à 19:04 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : So trying to summarize above discussion, I suggest as products: [...]  * Websites with components: [...]    - (for versions, live/dev does not make much

Re: [Mageia-dev] Java-Policy first draft published

2011-01-10 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 21:02, Farfouille farfouill...@laposte.net wrote: Licence discrepency : dokuwiki template says licence is 'CC Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported' but web application policy (http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web_applications_policy) claims 'Creative Commons

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia policies

2011-01-09 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 22:30, Samuel Verschelde sto...@laposte.net wrote: Le dimanche 9 janvier 2011 20:58:24, Remy CLOUARD a écrit : I’ve missed an important point in the process. The license used on mandriva wiki is the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5, and we use the license we

Re: [Mageia-dev] New bugzilla proposal

2011-01-07 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Ok, the point of this discussion is to know what we put as: - Products - Components This can be updated later (as in: adding/renaming products/components). So we should just aim at the smallest acceptable set, so that we can open our Bugzilla instance, see what it shows, update and open it for

Re: [Mageia-dev] New bugzilla proposal

2011-01-07 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 19:04, Romain d'Alverny rdalve...@gmail.com wrote:  * Mageia with components:   - installation   - software + RPM package   - new software request replace with new RPM package request   - release (media, process)   - (for versions, cauldron first, we'll see later

[Mageia-dev] maintainers database

2010-12-17 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Hi there, it looks like we will need a database to know who maintains what, basically. It used to be http://maintainers.mandriva.com/ - its source code has no explicit license, so we've got to build this again. I drafted a very quick page for this here:

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout

2010-12-16 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:47, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. ewil...@bex.net wrote: If the Mageia community chooses to ignore the laws of some countries for any reason (even if the community can not be prosecuted), I want nothing to do with it. So you do already. The common subset of laws of all

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout

2010-12-10 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 17:04, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: 2010/12/10 Romain d'Alverny rdalve...@gmail.com: Let's try this: what if we consider, at first, that software patents were a non-issue? (that is, we just consider they are all invalid as such). From a mirror

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout

2010-12-10 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 19:14, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: 2010/12/10 Romain d'Alverny rdalve...@gmail.com: Ok, but you still take into account SP in your answer. :-p (we would have come to that, but the idea was to think about it from a naïve, software-patent-free

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two

2010-11-30 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 13:29, Samuel Verschelde sto...@laposte.net wrote: What I'm saying is totally different : In the first case : - no one steps in to maintain it. We drop it. In the second case : - no one steps in to maintain it. Because we promised to support it, and because there

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two

2010-11-26 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 00:44, Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote: Op zaterdag 27 november 2010 00:25:17 schreef Thomas Backlund: [...] A) i see no reason for codecs and firmware to be separate. However, i do understand that some people would not want to install firmware, but i

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror list for apps (LONG mail)

2010-11-04 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 08:30, Funda Wang fundaw...@gmail.com wrote: Just a question, why couldn't we just use the same architecture with opensuse, which is based on metalink? http://mirrorbrain.org/metalinks/ http://www.metalinker.org/ (for reference about this). Romain

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure

2010-10-21 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 18:34, Olivier Thauvin nanar...@nanardon.zarb.org wrote: Now come the question: what is a valid mirror ?, eg, what a mirror should have as file to be valid ? Not sure if we discussed in depth MirrorBrain (http://www.mirrorbrain.org/ ) for managing mirrors index and

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-16 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 21:29, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2010-10-16 12:36, Ahmad Samir a écrit : It's much better to help the user formulate a useful bug report, that's easier / more productive for all involved parties. There would be no middle man. Once the middle-man could

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-15 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 07:43, Olivier Méjean omej...@yahoo.fr wrote: Le vendredi 15 octobre 2010 01:18:37, Michael scherer a écrit : On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 09:57:03PM +0200, Olivier Méjean wrote: Since the only people who will have issue with this are the president ( aka Anne ) and the

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-14 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Does anyone take notes to summarize and make a consistent proposal (be it in some way or the other) of what should be done, as well as defining some sort of personas for users (unaware, new, occasional, frequent, expert) for evaluation? Romain

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-14 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 18:32, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Is there a dedicated mailist for the leaders of the different communities? It would probably make sense to have a closed list for them to coordinate projects such as polls, marketing, sharing of resource materials agreemtns etc.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-13 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 06:50, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Let the user then assume that responsibility/liability. This is where, I consider the easy urpmi served its purpose well. It installed repos where the available software that most users would need was made available, but this

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycle - what is actually POSSIBLE?

2010-10-11 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Le 9 oct. 2010 à 09:57, Margot mar...@otfordduckscomputers.co.uk a écrit : There has been a lengthy debate about users' wishes for the Mageia release cycle, but one important voice has been missing from this debate: the collective voice of the devs who will be responsible for producing the

Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-01 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 15:15, Fabrice Facorat fabrice.faco...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/10/1 Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org: Substance counts a lot more than appearance to me. again you're somewhat wrong iPod and iPhones are inferirors products technically speaking, but they have better appearance

Re: [Mageia-dev] When the jobs will start???

2010-09-21 Thread Romain d'Alverny
hey, euphoria's so big we're still trying to cope with all incoming emails! :-) We're setting up a temp wiki to start listing people roles, a blog, a basic website and discussing for basic hosting services. We expect to post an update by this evening about all this + the org. statutes and