Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 andPostorius 1.0 alpha 1

2012-03-29 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Ah, sorry, yes the two booleans above should be exposed in the REST API. https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/967238 Thanks, I've added some comments and questions to bug entry. Jeff ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list

[Mailman-Developers] GSoC Mailman and Systers (was Re: GSoC)

2012-03-29 Thread Terri Oda
On 12-03-28 7:49 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Hey, welcome, Ana! I suspect that the Systers organization has moved on, since their specific needs were satisfied AFAIK. But they have some really good people (both as engineers and as human beings), so please do get in touch with them

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

2012-03-29 Thread David Jeske
- Stable URLs, RFC 5064 + X-Message-ID-Hash. See the above links. If you can implement the `IArchiver.permalink()` method and ensure that even if completely wiped and regenerated from the underlying raw messages, your URLs will remain stable, I think you will have won. :) This is really

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

2012-03-29 Thread Shayan Md
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 22:31, Florian Fuchs f...@state-of-mind.de wrote: Hi Odhiambo, Am 28.03.12 18:47, schrieb Odhiambo Washington: One more thing: In settings.py, I have this: REST_SERVER =

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

2012-03-29 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:33, Shayan Md mdosha...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 22:31, Florian Fuchs f...@state-of-mind.de wrote: Hi Odhiambo, Am 28.03.12 18:47, schrieb Odhiambo Washington:

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

2012-03-29 Thread Shayan Md
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:33, Shayan Md mdosha...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 22:31, Florian Fuchs

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

2012-03-29 Thread Shayan Md
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:33, Shayan Md mdosha...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 22:31, Florian Fuchs

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

2012-03-29 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:12, Shayan Md mdosha...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:33, Shayan Md mdosha...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Odhiambo Washington

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@list.org wrote: Mailman 3 itself requires unique Message-IDs. So? FWIW, I don't think I agree with that requirement (even RFC 5322 doesn't make it a MUST), but I'm not going to argue with you about Mailman 3 design, that's your pidgin. But

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Additional Mailman GSoC mentors

2012-03-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 01:57:03AM -0600, Terri Oda wrote: It's looking like we're going to have more student applicants than in previous years, so I think it'd be great if we could get a few more mentors to match. If you're a semi-active mailman developer (i.e. I'm going to recognize your

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Additional Mailman GSoC mentors

2012-03-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 29, 2012, at 07:53 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: I can answer questions about using bzr and some launchpad questions (although I also have lots of launchpad questions of my own :-). I'm now fully versed in Warsaw import style rules although I should probably recertify at the next pycon :-)

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
(Aside: Is there some reason why you To: me and CC: the list rather than having the list address in the To: field? I ask because I'm wondering if it's a gmail thing, or something about your MUA, and because I suppress the list copy if I'm CC'd directly, I don't get a List-Post: header, so my

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Richard Wackerbarth
On Mar 29, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: (Aside: Is there some reason why you To: me and CC: the list rather than having the list address in the To: field? I ask because I'm wondering if it's a gmail thing, or something about your MUA, and because I suppress the list copy if I'm

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

2012-03-29 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 13:53, Florian Fuchs f...@state-of-mind.de wrote: Hi, there seems to be a general problem running postorius with Django 1.4. Postorius alpha1 was released the same day Django 1.4 was, so we haven't had anyone on the team so far who was running 1.4 while working on

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman / archive-ui / licensing questions

2012-03-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:00 PM, David Jeske dav...@gmail.com wrote: I started to talk to one of them about installing CSLA (or MHonArc, or anything really), and realized I should see if you folks are interested in a great bundled archiver, I'm personally interested, but that's not going to

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

2012-03-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:04 PM, David Jeske dav...@gmail.com wrote: - Merging of forums, archives, newsgroups, and IMAP. You like to bite off the big ones eh? NNTP, then IMAP. Does anyone even use fat-mail-clients anymore? Yes, and yes. But I don't think anybody has really thought

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

2012-03-29 Thread Florian Fuchs
Hi Odhiambo, Am 29.03.12 18:12, schrieb Odhiambo Washington: My issue here is that I am not running Django 1.4 - unless I am missing something. I am not sure where it is coming from. I am on FreeBSD and I installed django-1.3.1 from the ports. A check on my installed apps shows just that.

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry writes: I suspect that there will be plenty of mailing lists that get fed messages from programs, e.g. think vcs -commit diff lists.  Those programs can also be buggy, but again I'd prefer that Mailman not compromise on this issue for their sake. I predict you will eventually lose on

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Shayan Md
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.orgwrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Terri Oda te...@zone12.com wrote: Looks like archiver for mm3 is still in development stage. As far as I understand searcher depends on the srchiver, right? Not completely but it

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Shayan Md mdosha...@gmail.com wrote: Assuming that we have something like this(object-ID-addressable, If I am not wrong, mailman3 made it possible but not yet implemented as it's part of archiver), is it over ambitious to plan to implement indexer/searcher for

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

2012-03-29 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 17:11 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Grackle is another archiver for mailman that doesn't have the UI bells and whistles of hyperkitty but it does make an effort to expose a REST UI to the world. I think that's a beautiful thing. I started a small thing on hyperkitty

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
An archiver should certainly provide an interface to look up a message by [...] the hash. Including List-Id in the hash calculation allows the archiver to display a cross posted message in context. See http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#listserver Also, a gentle reminder that I put some

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 30, 2012, at 02:18 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: I suspect that there will be plenty of mailing lists that get fed messages from programs, e.g. think vcs -commit diff lists.  Those programs can also be buggy, but again I'd prefer that Mailman not compromise on this issue for their

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Shayan Md
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.orgwrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Shayan Md mdosha...@gmail.com wrote: Assuming that we have something like this(object-ID-addressable, If I am not wrong, mailman3 made it possible but not yet implemented as it's

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Shayan Md mdosha...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.orgwrote: And (2) search and retrieval may do a *lot* of message access, for example if you want to do data mining (see Ana from Spain's thread).

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC

2012-03-29 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 10:49 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Hyperkitty is the demo that a few people have been working on, including Toshio at the sprints, but there are others in play (eg, recent posts to this list). Also, Hyperkitty is currently based on somewhat limited technology (the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Shayan Md
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.orgwrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Shayan Md mdosha...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: And (2) search and retrieval may do a *lot* of message