Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-03-03 Thread Ankush Sharma
Thanks. Barry for the detailed explanation. I will surely have a look on that part as you mentioned. Thanks, Ankush Sharma github.com/black-perl On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:47 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@list.org wrote: On Feb 27, 2015, at 01:02 PM, Ankush Sharma B.Tech. Electronics Engg, IIT(BHU),

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-03-03 Thread Ankush Sharma
Yes, Stephen also mentioned about its separate working and not being able to get integrated with mailman. But, I guess it would be cool if this metrics project can be integrated with postorius or hyperkitty as you mentioned. Thanks, Ankush Sharma github.com/black-perl On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-28 Thread Andrew Stuart
There’s a bug at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1423756 Requesting domainowner and serverowner thanks On 26 Feb 2015, at 10:10 am, Barry Warsaw ba...@list.org wrote: On Feb 25, 2015, at 04:12 PM, Andrew Stuart wrote: I’m looking forward to being able to set and get domainowner and

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/27/2015 12:24 AM, Terri Oda wrote: It's not that it's a bad feature in isolation. But there are so *many* potential features for Mailman, and I'd like to see ideas that are less socially problematic get implemented first. And there are many customer relations managements systems

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 27, 2015, at 01:02 PM, Ankush Sharma B.Tech. Electronics Engg, IIT(BHU), Varanasi (U.P.), INDIA wrote: A personalized mailing list will allow mailman users to send personalized emails to all the list members from a common email template. Almost all the pieces are already there to support

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-02-27 1:06 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Ankush Sharma B.Tech. Electronics Engg, IIT(BHU), Varanasi (U.P.), INDIA writes: I was wondering if there is a sort of tool that generates summaries for mailing list activity and charts like number of users, number of active users,

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Terri Oda
Honestly, I don't love this idea. I would be technically feasible with VERP, but it edges into features that are very popular for people sending spam. On 2015-02-26 11:32 PM, Ankush Sharma B.Tech. Electronics Engg, IIT(BHU), Varanasi (U.P.), INDIA wrote: How about having personalized

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Ankush Sharma B.Tech. Electronics Engg, IIT(BHU), Varanasi (U.P.), INDIA writes: I was wondering if there is a sort of tool that generates summaries for mailing list activity and charts like number of users, number of active users, etc. Would something like this be a good idea or is it

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Ankush Sharma B.Tech. Electronics Engg, IIT(BHU), Varanasi (U.P.), INDIA
I realize the feature I proposed earlier is more of a commercial feature and might not be be so useful for Mailman as you mentioned it's pitfalls. Are there other directions that I should think in? I am good with Python, Javascript, HTML5. I was wondering if there is a sort of tool that

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Terri Oda
I am quite aware of the definition of spam (in fact, I have a master's thesis on the subject). What I'm concerned about is that in the past, mail merges (which is what you're describing) is a feature that has often been requested by people doing marketing lists. It's not a subset of users

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Ankush Sharma B.Tech. Electronics Engg, IIT(BHU), Varanasi (U.P.), INDIA writes: Spamming would be the case when you are sending the emails to people who don't want to receive such emails. While if we control the email variable to take value from the set of emails of the list members only

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-26 Thread Ankush Sharma B.Tech. Electronics Engg, IIT(BHU), Varanasi (U.P.), INDIA
How about having personalized announcement mailing lists ? A personalized mailing list will allow mailman users to send personalized emails to all the list members from a common email template. Suppose I am the manager of a company and I need to ask all the workers for a meeting. I want each of

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-26 Thread Ankush Sharma B.Tech. Electronics Engg, IIT(BHU), Varanasi (U.P.), INDIA
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Terri Oda te...@toybox.ca wrote: Honestly, I don't love this idea. I would be technically feasible with VERP, I don't know about VERP. I will surely have a look. but it edges into features that are very popular for people sending spam. Spamming would be

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 25, 2015, at 04:12 PM, Andrew Stuart wrote: I’m looking forward to being able to set and get domainowner and serverowner (or siteowner or whatever its called). It will allow me to delete lots of code and there’s no greater joy than deleting code. Are you anticipating this will be in V3.0?

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 24, 2015, at 07:53 AM, Chris Nulk wrote: Also, I believe I remember a goal for Mailman v3 was to have one instance of Mailman be able to host lists for multiple domains. Yes, but not on physically distinct hosts. Or in other words, yes MM3 supports virtual domains Given that information

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-24 Thread Chris Nulk
On 2/23/2015 8:08 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Andrew Stuart writes: I am currently associating users, not addresses with these permissions, so your suggestion is compatible with my stuff. +1 on associating users with permissions (plus the validation Barry recommends). site owner

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-24 Thread Andrew Stuart
I’m looking forward to being able to set and get domainowner and serverowner (or siteowner or whatever its called). It will allow me to delete lots of code and there’s no greater joy than deleting code. Are you anticipating this will be in V3.0? thanks as On 24 Feb 2015, at 11:42 am, Barry

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-23 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Andrew Stuart writes: I am currently associating users, not addresses with these permissions, so your suggestion is compatible with my stuff. +1 on associating users with permissions (plus the validation Barry recommends). site owner does sound more appropriate than server owner. Users

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-21 Thread Andrew Stuart
Do you think this has to be integrated into the core for 3.0? I'd still prefer to keep it separate for better experimentation and testing. if: there was an “application data” table: resource_type | resource_id |

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry Warsaw writes: On Feb 20, 2015, at 07:25 PM, Andrew Stuart wrote: It’s workable as a part of the auth proxy but feels like it would fit better in the Mailman core database since the data is so tightly bound to Mailman resources. It’ll need an effective replication mechanism to

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 20, 2015, at 07:25 PM, Andrew Stuart wrote: It’s workable as a part of the auth proxy but feels like it would fit better in the Mailman core database since the data is so tightly bound to Mailman resources. It’ll need an effective replication mechanism to ensure consistency with Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-20 Thread Florian Fuchs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 20.02.2015 um 06:46 schrieb Terri Oda: Thanks all! I've put up stuff for the ideas I could describe well enough off the top of my head. Thank you Terri! Also, mentors, I've listed a few likely key people beside each project idea, but some

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-20 Thread Andrew Stuart
[1] The additional user info bit possibly re-raises the big question of a central user data store for all Mailman components, which will clearly not be solved as part of a GSoC project, especially a beginner-friendly one. But we do already have a little bit of info, the user's email

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-19 Thread Terri Oda
Thanks all! I've put up stuff for the ideas I could describe well enough off the top of my head. Also, mentors, I've listed a few likely key people beside each project idea, but some of them are just a generic anyone can help with this -- if any of these particularly interests you, please

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-17 Thread Abhilash Raj
How about domain-wide settings for default list styles or maybe set a default list style for an entire mailman installation through Postorius? That could make the work of list-admins easy if they manage too many lists and don't want to do repetitive change in each and every list. Additionally

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 18, 2015, at 12:24 AM, Abhilash Raj wrote: How about domain-wide settings for default list styles or maybe set a default list style for an entire mailman installation through Postorius? That could make the work of list-admins easy if they manage too many lists and don't want to do

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-17 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 02/17/2015 04:03 AM, Terri Oda wrote: Hi all, In my role as org admin for Python, I'm trying to make sure we have more beginner-friendly ideas on the GSoC pages, and Mailman's among the groups that doesn't have any. How embarrassing for me as a Mailman developer. ;) It's also a problem