Re: [Mailman-Users] Email command upgrade

2004-10-05 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brad Well, by default, it doesn't ignore or hide the List-* Brad headers, and turns them into proper clickable links. [...] Brad This is all that needs to be done to properly Brad implement the RFC. If you think that's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Email command upgrade

2004-10-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:58 PM +0900 2004-10-05, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: The rest of the time, it's trivial to format them as a pulldown or popup menu. You mean that you think they're going to understand or remember how to use a pulldown or popup menu? For the class of luser

[Mailman-Users] Mailman/Sendmail addressing

2004-10-05 Thread Rob . Exley
I am in the process of setting up Mailman running on RedHat Linux 9 and using Sendmail 8.12.8. The machine is also a authoritative DNS for the zone ntg.equifax.com and we I have a zone file containing an MX record for the ntg.equifax.com domain pointing to this machine. As far as this is

Re: Fwd: Re: [Mailman-Users] yet-another-sendmail-hates-me list not found problem

2004-10-05 Thread p e y t o n
no, they correctly set up an A record for the hostname. here's another synopsis of things: * The alias for the post to the list is working evidenced by the mailer daemon * The python script for the post to the list operation is running but not finding the list * When the script is run

Re: [Mailman-Users] Understanding Bounces

2004-10-05 Thread Bill Moseley
On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 03:03:50PM +0900, Jim Tittsler wrote: I confess I wonder about your real goal. Just making it to the user's mail server doesn't mean the user got the message. For that matter, their opening it and reading it doesn't mean it in some cases. :-) That's very true. It

Re: [Mailman-Users] Understanding Bounces

2004-10-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bill Moseley wrote: So, as far as you know there's no mailman configuration options that will let me review as either as they come in or look at what mailmain is currently tracking in its bounce database? You could look in the bounce log. I don't know what it looks like in 2.0.x, but in 2.1.4 it

[Mailman-Users] Please help

2004-10-05 Thread Layne Meier
I am very new to Mailman - we've been a long-time user of Majordomo. I like the idea of being able to manage lists with a web interface, rather than something such as Webmin. I installed Postfix, Apache and Mailman on a test system (Sun Sparc, Solaris 8). I got all to compile and install

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approval

2004-10-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
- Original Message --- Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Approval From: Derrick Seymour [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:17:52 -0400 To: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually they do have the same reason. Post by a non-member? Which is really weird, cause the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman/Sendmail addressing

2004-10-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Rob.Exley wrote: Even though I have modified /var/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py to change DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST to be 'lists.ntg.equifax.com'. I have also modified the 'Host name this list prefres for email' in the web interface for my test mailing list to be 'lists.ntg.equifax.com'. This doesn't seem

Re: [Mailman-Users] Please help

2004-10-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Layne Meier wrote: However, and I have to apologize because I know you all have probably discussed this a million times over by now, but I can't get Apache to work and recognize the cgi-bin directory. Visit the FAQ at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and read article 1.22 Here's a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approval

2004-10-05 Thread Derrick Seymour
Actually they do have the same reason. Post by a non-member? Which is really weird, cause the user is a member.. The post still goes through to all my test members. And if I do post a message by a non-member the message won't go through. Keep the ideas coming, I am greatly appreciative.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Please help

2004-10-05 Thread Layne Meier
I really do appreciate taking time to help me. Yes. I've stopped and started Apache - several times in fact. I read through the INSTALL, README and README.POSTFIX file several times before I even began the installation process, and followed the INSTALL file along during the install. Layne On

Re: [Mailman-Users] Please help

2004-10-05 Thread Layne Meier
I think I may be on the right track. A smart person (not me) would have looked at the Apache error log to see what was wrong. Apparently I didn't have my syntax exactly correct in my httpd.conf. That was part one. After I fixed the syntax, stopped and restarted Apache, I tried to access

[Mailman-Users] Moderators notice of new request Problem

2004-10-05 Thread fepf
Hello, I am using Mailman 2.1.5 on my host service (http://www.webhostingspace.net). Just added and configurated a new mailing list but I am having a problem I can't solve. I want to receive email notifications of new subscribers so that I can know of what is pending for approval. I have

[Mailman-Users] yet-another-sendmail-hates-me list not found problem

2004-10-05 Thread p e y t o n
At 04:01 AM 10/5/2004, you wrote: no, they correctly set up an A record for the hostname. here's another synopsis of things: [SNIP] the odyssey is over! i feel like i've been rebirthed. basically it all came down to the symbolic link i was putting in /etc/smrsh but failing to include in my

[Mailman-Users] Out of the office admin / filtering policy question.

2004-10-05 Thread demo
Hi This is really an Out of the office admin / filtering question. I wondered what policy folks operated on Out of the office bounces. Frankly, I would want to drop their membership on a first offence and have not spent any time exploring the FAQs or any filtering options as I am still

[Mailman-Users] More help - please

2004-10-05 Thread Layne Meier
Okay - so I must be totally clueless here. I'm now able to create a list with my web interface. I followed the instructions to the letter. I created a list and subscribed to it, but I never got an e-mail to confirm my subscription to the list. I look at the pending.pck file and see my

Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please

2004-10-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:26 PM -0400 2004-10-05, Layne Meier wrote: What am I doing wrong? System: Sun E250 Solaris 8 Postfix v2.1.5 Python v2.2.3 I don't know if this is the only problem, but Python 2.3 is required for use with Mailman 2.1.5. See

Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please

2004-10-05 Thread Layne Meier
I downloaded and tried Python 2.3.4. Every time I try to untar it I get the following error (always at the same place). - I am using GNU Tar. x Python-2.3.4/Mac/OSXResources/app/Resources/English.lproj/ Documentation/ide/IDE.gif, 10249 bytes, 21 tape blocks tar: directory checksum error

Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please

2004-10-05 Thread K. Clair
Are you certain that it started without any errors? I have been able to run the web interface without any problems on servers with python versions other than 2.3, but the qrunner doesn't work for me unless python 2.3.3 is installed. Kristina On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 03:46:32PM -0400, Layne Meier

Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please

2004-10-05 Thread John Dennis
On Tue, 2004-10-05 at 15:33, Brad Knowles wrote: I don't know if this is the only problem, but Python 2.3 is required for use with Mailman 2.1.5. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq05.008.htp. Either that FAQ entry is misleading or not quite true (no pun

Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please

2004-10-05 Thread Layne Meier
I started it using the /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start command. I ran a ps -ef | grep for qrunner and it showed a process was running. I'll try to see if I can download the 2.3.3 Python, but I wasn't having much luck uncompressing the 2.3.4 release. -Layne On Oct 5, 2004, at 3:39 PM,

Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please

2004-10-05 Thread John Dennis
Did you look in the mailman logs? Did you look at the system log file? I assume since you can see your message in the mm queue parts of mail are running, but some reason its not getting into the MTA? Have you verified you can use SMTP with postfix? Have you configured the postfix local SMTP

Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please

2004-10-05 Thread Layne Meier
I checked in the mailman logs. A lot of data to parse, not certain which is pertinent. However, in the smtp-failure log, I see the following... Oct 05 16:02:24 2004 (275) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: (146, 'Connection refused') Oct 05 16:02:35 2004 (275) Low level smtp

[Mailman-Users] Cannot read wrapper configuration file error - please help!

2004-10-05 Thread brandon dudley
For some reason, my mailman installation stopped working on Sunday, giving the typical got GID xx message. Because I had installed mailman from rpm, I decided to reinstall it from the same rpm. When I did this, and fixed the alias file, any post to any of my lists gives the above error message. I

Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please

2004-10-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:52 PM -0400 2004-10-05, John Dennis wrote: I don't know if this is the only problem, but Python 2.3 is required for use with Mailman 2.1.5. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq05.008.htp. Either that FAQ entry is misleading or not quite true (no pun

Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please

2004-10-05 Thread John Dennis
Looks like you're getting smtp connection failures. What is your DELIVERY_MODULE set to? What is your SMTP_HOST and SMTP_PORT set to? Can you telnet to these? Does your SMTP server require authentication? John -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please

2004-10-05 Thread John Dennis
Hmm... now that I think about it, connection refused, are you hitting a firewall on that port? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ:

Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please

2004-10-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Layne Meier wrote: I downloaded and tried Python 2.3.4. Every time I try to untar it I get the following error (always at the same place). - I am using GNU Tar. x Python-2.3.4/Mac/OSXResources/app/Resources/English.lproj/ Documentation/ide/IDE.gif, 10249 bytes, 21 tape blocks tar:

Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please

2004-10-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:17 PM -0400 2004-10-05, Layne Meier wrote: Oct 05 16:02:24 2004 (275) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: (146, 'Connection refused') Oct 05 16:02:35 2004 (275) Low level smtp error: (146, 'Connection refused'), msgid: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oct 05 16:02:35 2004 (275) delivery

[Mailman-Users] Content negotiation for language

2004-10-05 Thread Evan Prodromou
So, as far as I can tell, the Web interface for Mailman is completely ignorant of content negotiation (http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec12.html). It doesn't seem to do any variation on the Accept-Language header sent by the browser. Am I incorrect? Is there some way to get Mailman

[Mailman-Users] Content negotiation for language

2004-10-05 Thread Evan Prodromou
So, as far as I can tell, the Web interface for Mailman is completely ignorant of content negotiation (http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec12.html). It doesn't seem to do any variation on the Accept-Language header sent by the browser. Am I incorrect? Is there some way to get Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cannot read wrapper configuration file error - please help!

2004-10-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:21 PM -0700 2004-10-05, brandon dudley wrote: For some reason, my mailman installation stopped working on Sunday, giving the typical got GID xx message. Because I had installed mailman from rpm, I decided to reinstall it from the same rpm. When I did this, and fixed the alias file, any

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cannot read wrapper configuration file error - please help!

2004-10-05 Thread brandon dudley
That said, what typically does the error message Cannot read wrapper configuration file refer to? What is the wrapper configuration file? mm_cfg.py? I actually downloaded another rpm and used that, and got the same message. I removed the mailman rpm and reinstalled it - no dice. On Tue, 5 Oct

[Mailman-Users] Authorized Users

2004-10-05 Thread Robert Haack
I'm new to this list and to using Mailman. Please forgive me if this question has been asked before but I could not find it in my search through the archives. On our old list serv software we had the ability to create a group of authorized users who could post to any of 15 lists without being

Re: [Mailman-Users] Authorized Users

2004-10-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Robert Haack wrote: I'm new to this list and to using Mailman. Please forgive me if this question has been asked before but I could not find it in my search through the archives. On our old list serv software we had the ability to create a group of authorized users who could post to any of 15

RE: [Mailman-Users] Understanding Bounces

2004-10-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Pallo wrote: I too have been confused about the whole bounce process. When I was with Majordomo I got these all the time. I want to see emails that go to the list and are returned for reasons such as mailbox is full, or user unknown etc. I have the following menu iten under Bounce

Re: [Mailman-Users] Probe Message Problem

2004-10-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Gary Kaplan wrote (accidently?) off list: I have no idea what Marks response means. Can someone please help? -Gary Mark Sapiro wrote: Gary Kaplan wrote: One of my users informed me that she got this message in which a couple hundred address from the list were disclosed. I want to know if

[Mailman-Users] Bounce problems w/list

2004-10-05 Thread JL Reis
Hi all, new to this list. I really love the ease of Mailman, but am having a monster problem w/a client who is using the program. It seems that hotmail users, comcast.net users and some AOLers are having their email either directly deposited into a junk folder or they're being tossed as spam

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce problems w/list

2004-10-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 6:55 PM -0500 2004-10-05, JL Reis wrote: I really love the ease of Mailman, but am having a monster problem w/a client who is using the program. It seems that hotmail users, comcast.net users and some AOLers are having their email either directly deposited into a junk folder or they're

RE: [Mailman-Users] Bounce problems w/list

2004-10-05 Thread Judy Petersen
I've asked this question before and so am particularly interested in it being brought up again. As a Comcast user, I haven't gotten individual emails for quite some time (except for an occasional one or two) although the digests come through without fail. Other of our members get no mail (not

[Mailman-Users] Is there a How-To for supporting virtual domains while using postfix

2004-10-05 Thread Robin Mordasiewicz
Hi I want to set mailman up on a server which supports many domains. Is it possible to have [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] and to have separate administration interfaces for each set of lists belonging to different domains. -- --

RE: [Mailman-Users] Bounce problems w/list

2004-10-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:41 PM -0400 2004-10-05, Judy Petersen wrote: We are now investigating other options but would prefer to stay where we are and fix things so it works. I'm hoping I hear more ideas of things to try. Go do the search I recommended. Then read that page again. These problems are largely

RE: [Mailman-Users] Bounce problems w/list

2004-10-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Judy Petersen wrote: I've asked this question before and so am particularly interested in it being brought up again. As a Comcast user, I haven't gotten individual emails for quite some time (except for an occasional one or two) although the digests come through without fail. Other of our members

Re: [Mailman-Users] Understanding Bounces

2004-10-05 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 07:34:40AM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote: I just created a list with three emails. Sent a few messages it all worked fine. Then I removed one of the addresses from my aliases file and the MTA logs show that when mailmain attempts to deliver the message I see: Unrouteable