Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for professional help

2007-05-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 5/16/07, Brian Carpenter wrote: Apparently finding help, even paid help is another thing. Well, in a sense you're getting what you're paying for. I know you asked for paid consulting on this sort of thing, but I don't have the time to do that, and so far as I know, neither do any of the

Re: [Mailman-Users] moderation bit off on explicitly selected users

2007-05-17 Thread Tomas Macek
Tomas Macek wrote: we are using mailman 2.1.5 with Postfix. On our announce-only list we have subscribed all of our employees. This list is fully moderated, so when someone posts, the message waits for approving. That's fine. Now I need to have some users (3 mail addresses) of the

Re: [Mailman-Users] modifying admin page - create new lists

2007-05-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 5/16/07, Christopher Adams wrote: I would like to remove the reference to creating new lists that is included in the admin page. I have looked in the Templates folder and in the Mailman folder, but haven't been able to find where that is included. You'd have to check the source code

Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for professional help

2007-05-17 Thread Brian Carpenter
My installation of mailman is on a Linux box running cPanel/WHM. The os is CentOS 4.4. It is not an apple machine. It seems to me that the patch is looking for a Defaults.py.in file, which I don't have. I could be wrong however in interpreting the error message. I do appreciate any help you can

Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for professional help

2007-05-17 Thread Todd Zullinger
Brian Carpenter wrote: My installation of mailman is on a Linux box running cPanel/WHM. The os is CentOS 4.4. It is not an apple machine. It seems to me that the patch is looking for a Defaults.py.in file, which I don't have. I could be wrong however in interpreting the error message. I don't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for professional help

2007-05-17 Thread James Dinkel
Why does there need to be a patch to mailman? Could you just setup htdig and have it index the pipermail web pages? James Dinkel Todd Zullinger wrote: Brian Carpenter wrote: My installation of mailman is on a Linux box running cPanel/WHM. The os is CentOS 4.4. It is not an apple

[Mailman-Users] detecting administrivia requests in bounces

2007-05-17 Thread James Dinkel
For some reason, my users like to send emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess maybe because that is what is in the From: address on emails they recieve. Anyway, they will be emails with a single request in them like help or subscribe but they dome to me because the bounce filter couldn't filter

[Mailman-Users] How to configure a list for invitation-only subscriptions?

2007-05-17 Thread Carter Braxton
How can I configure an existing mailing list to be invitation-only? (That is, disabling the ability for the general public to sign up via the web or email interfaces unless an invitation is received first.) I must be missing something as I'm sure this is a very common requirement, but have not

Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for professional help

2007-05-17 Thread Todd Zullinger
James Dinkel wrote: Why does there need to be a patch to mailman? Could you just setup htdig and have it index the pipermail web pages? That doesn't provide the per-list integration that Brian wants. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp

Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for professional help

2007-05-17 Thread Brian Carpenter
I don't know much about the ht:dig patch, but it does appear from a cursory reading of it's docs[1] that it is meant to be applied to a Mailman *source* tree, not to an already installed Mailman. Thanks Todd. That explains the error message. cPanel's distribution of mailman has worked great for

[Mailman-Users] Too many moderator requests

2007-05-17 Thread Paul Kleeberg MD Ramsey
I have a moderator who has not dealt with moderator requests for so long that the web page to manage them times out when it attempts to load. We wish do delete all the pending messages. How do I proceed? Paul -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Mailman-Users] bounces of invalid emails don't go to owner?

2007-05-17 Thread Ricardo Kleemann
Hi, I see in my maillog email addresses that are bouncing because they are not valid, and I see mailman handling the bounce score, but the owner does not receive the bounce messages. Is there a way to configure such that the owner does receive these bounces? Thanks Ricardo

[Mailman-Users] how can i simulate mailman pages

2007-05-17 Thread jetta.view
hi, how can i simulate mailman pages? i want to build my own page to add or remove members without any admin-confirmation. -- Membership Management... --Mass Subscription -- Membership Management... --Mass Removal -- Membership Management... --Membership List in the next step i want to send

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounces of invalid emails don't go to owner?

2007-05-17 Thread Ricardo Kleemann
Thanks. I have all those settings to Yes, isn't that the way it should be? The first setting is about bounce messages that failed to be detected... but what about regular bounces that are properly detected? Ricardo Hello, Go onto the Bounce Processing page on your Administration page.

[Mailman-Users] Stripping signatures from list messages

2007-05-17 Thread Rodti MacLeary
Is there any way for members of a discussion list to ask Mailman to 'ignore' the rest of their post, similar to the 'end' command when sending an email to the listname-request address? For example a member may have a large footer signature automatically appended to their message when it leaves

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounces of invalid emails don't go to owner?

2007-05-17 Thread Ricardo Kleemann
So there's no easy way to prune a large list of bad addresses... :-( Mailman attempts to process bounces on its own. Even with that setting set to yes, you will only ever see the actual bounces when Mailman cannot detect them. Unless someone like Mark has a brilliant way of viewing

[Mailman-Users] neither receiving or sending

2007-05-17 Thread Michael Rainey
After months of successful use of Mailman 2.1.5 for several lists, my hosting company accidentally unistalled Mailman. The have since reinstalled it, and it looks like all necessary files in var are there etc. However no messages are apparently received (a moderated list---never shows a

[Mailman-Users] neither receiving or sending

2007-05-17 Thread Michael Rainey
mm_cfg.py IS still there and is correct. Sorry...long day. Michael Rainey __ After months of successful use of Mailman 2.1.5 for several lists, my hosting company accidentally unistalled Mailman. The have since reinstalled it, and it looks like all necessary files in

Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with anonymous list

2007-05-17 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 5/16/07, Instituto de Ingenieria Área de Sistemas Unix/Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I configured an anonymous list, it works well but hotmail classifies all the messages from the list as spam. There is no problem when i set anonymous lisy option to no Contact Hotmail and find out why

Re: [Mailman-Users] detecting administrivia requests in bounces

2007-05-17 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 5/17/07, James Dinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason, my users like to send emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess maybe because that is what is in the From: address on emails they recieve. Anyway, they will be emails with a single request in them like help or subscribe but they

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to configure a list for invitation-only subscriptions?

2007-05-17 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 5/17/07, Carter Braxton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I configure an existing mailing list to be invitation-only? (That is, disabling the ability for the general public to sign up via the web or email interfaces unless an invitation is received first.) I must be missing something as

[Mailman-Users] Fwd: Too many moderator requests

2007-05-17 Thread Patrick Bogen
Forgot to 'Reply To All'. -- Forwarded message -- From: Patrick Bogen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 17, 2007 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Too many moderator requests To: Paul Kleeberg MD Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 5/17/07, Paul Kleeberg MD Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Mailman-Users] how can i simulate mailman pages

2007-05-17 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 5/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, how can i simulate mailman pages? i want to build my own page to add or remove members without any admin-confirmation. Why can't you just set subscribe_policy to 'Confirm' and then duplicate the form fields on the general page for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Stripping signatures from list messages

2007-05-17 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 5/17/07, Rodti MacLeary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way for members of a discussion list to ask Mailman to 'ignore' the rest of their post, similar to the 'end' command when sending an email to the listname-request address? For example a member may have a large footer signature

Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for professional help

2007-05-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 5/17/07, Brian Carpenter wrote: My installation of mailman is on a Linux box running cPanel/WHM. The os is CentOS 4.4. That's the kind of information we would have needed to know before we would be able to help you. See FAQ 6.11, as well as FAQs 1.22 and 1.23. It is not

Re: [Mailman-Users] detecting administrivia requests in bounces

2007-05-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 5/17/07, James Dinkel wrote: For some reason, my users like to send emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess maybe because that is what is in the From: address on emails they recieve. Anyway, they will be emails with a single request in them like help or subscribe but they dome to me

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to configure a list for invitation-only subscriptions?

2007-05-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 5/17/07, Carter Braxton wrote: How can I configure an existing mailing list to be invitation-only? (That is, disabling the ability for the general public to sign up via the web or email interfaces unless an invitation is received first.) This sort of stuff should be covered in FAQ 3.11,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for professional help

2007-05-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 5/17/07, Brian Carpenter wrote: If someone has experience in using mhonarch/mharc and has some time to help, please contact me off list. Thanks. Part of your issue there is that they're not only going to need experience with mhonarc, but they're also going to need (or want to gain)

Re: [Mailman-Users] Stripping signatures from list messages

2007-05-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 5/17/07, Rodti MacLeary wrote: Is there any way for members of a discussion list to ask Mailman to 'ignore' the rest of their post, similar to the 'end' command when sending an email to the listname-request address? For example a member may have a large footer signature automatically

Re: [Mailman-Users] Too many moderator requests

2007-05-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 5/17/07, Paul Kleeberg MD Ramsey wrote: I have a moderator who has not dealt with moderator requests for so long that the web page to manage them times out when it attempts to load. We wish do delete all the pending messages. How do I proceed? You could try the command-line moderation

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounces of invalid emails don't go to owner?

2007-05-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 5/17/07, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: I see in my maillog email addresses that are bouncing because they are not valid, and I see mailman handling the bounce score, but the owner does not receive the bounce messages. Is there a way to configure such that the owner does receive these

Re: [Mailman-Users] neither receiving or sending

2007-05-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 5/17/07, Michael Rainey wrote: After months of successful use of Mailman 2.1.5 for several lists, my hosting company accidentally unistalled Mailman. The have since reinstalled it, and it looks like all necessary files in var are there etc. In /var? What OS is this? Is this a binary

Re: [Mailman-Users] neither receiving or sending

2007-05-17 Thread Michael Rainey
It is a binary packaged version, Linux, not sure which flavor, always assumed Redhat The aliases are there. I am ready to tell them to go ahead and do a complete reinstall, but want to make sure I have got my subscriber list intact. It should be visible to me as admin but is not, and even

Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for professional help

2007-05-17 Thread Ivan Van Laningham
Hi All-- Brad Knowles wrote: Really, these kinds of questions should be directed at your service provider (assuming they installed cPanel for you), or the cPanel folks. They've made some extensive changes to the Mailman code and haven't contributed those back to us, so our ability to

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to configure a list for invitation-only subscriptions?

2007-05-17 Thread Carter Braxton
On 5/17/07, Patrick Bogen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Set 'advertised' to 'No' and 'subscribe_policy' to at least 'Require approval,' if not 'Confirm and approve.' Then, send invitations from Member Management Mass Subscribe. (set 'Subscribe these users now or invite them?' to 'invite') Thanks

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to configure a list for invitation-only subscriptions?

2007-05-17 Thread Carter Braxton
On 5/17/07, Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This sort of stuff should be covered in FAQ 3.11, and the related FAQ entries -- try searching for announce. Thank you -- I looked at those section of the FAQ and they don't seem to directly address this issue, they talk about broadcast-only

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to configure a list for invitation-only subscriptions?

2007-05-17 Thread Steve Burling
--On May 17, 2007 9:16:49 PM -0500 Carter Braxton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This cuts off one avenue a random user could try to sign up, but there is still the subscribe command for the -request address, and of course there is the web interface. For the web interface, editing the html files

Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for professional help

2007-05-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 5/17/07, Ivan Van Laningham wrote: That's interesting. I use Plesk, and have not found anything different in my Mailman installation in the Python/HTML and config files other than a different base location than an installed-from-source Mailman would have. Everything behaves the way I

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to configure a list for invitation-only subscriptions?

2007-05-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 5/17/07, Carter Braxton wrote: Thank you -- I looked at those section of the FAQ and they don't seem to directly address this issue, they talk about broadcast-only lists, restricting posting to specific users, etc. What I'm looking for is a way to cut off all avenues of someone

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to configure a list for invitation-only subscriptions?

2007-05-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 5/17/07, Steve Burling wrote: If you set privacy options-subscribe_policy to either require approval or confirm and approve, then it doesn't matter if other subscription options are available -- unless you approve subscription requests I think that they'll just quietly time out. Is

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to configure a list for invitation-only subscriptions?

2007-05-17 Thread Carter Braxton
Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, Mailman does not have any method (that I know of) for making lists by invitation only. You can require approval from the Moderator(s) or List Owner(s), but as you observed that's not the same thing. I think I'm getting close -- so far I've done

Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for professional help

2007-05-17 Thread Ivan Van Laningham
Hi All-- Brad Knowles wrote: I can't say for sure, but I'm not aware of the Plesk folks making any material changes to the Mailman code. However. like most binary packagers I would assume that they store things according to the way that makes sense to them and not necessarily in the way

Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for professional help

2007-05-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 5/17/07, Ivan Van Laningham wrote: They seem to have improved things. I get my dedicated server from Godaddy, and it came with the latest version of Plesk, 8.1.0. Mailman 2.1.8, and Python 2.4.3. Well, Mailman 2.1.8 has security issues, so you'll need to make sure to update that to