[Mailman-Users] drop spam solution

2008-04-15 Thread Michael Geiger
Hello, I just want to let you know how I solved the spam problem on my server and reduced the mail load dramatically: Mails arriving on my server get tagged by spamassassin before they reach mailman: postfix - spamassassin - postfix - mailman (see

[Mailman-Users] mailman and sendmail issue

2008-04-15 Thread Prashanth
hi, when i send the mail i happen to see this in the sendmail error log stat=unknown mailer error 1 any clue why is that because of? -- regards, Prashanth http://munichlinux.blogspot.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] drop spam solution

2008-04-15 Thread Brad Knowles
Quoting Michael Geiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2. create a new wrapper-script mailman (chown mailman:mailman, chmod 755): - BEGIN - #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/procmail -m /opt/mailman/mail/mailman.procmailrc $* - END - 3. create the file mailman.procmailrc (chown mailman:mailman,

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam coming through ultra important list

2008-04-15 Thread Brad Knowles
Quoting Luke Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We currently run a hundred or so lists at a university our biggest one (22000 students at a university) is obviously moderated. As a side note, I work at a public research University with ~50,000 students and ~20,000 faculty and staff. bringing the

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman and sendmail issue

2008-04-15 Thread Brad Knowles
Quoting Prashanth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: when i send the mail i happen to see this in the sendmail error log stat=unknown mailer error 1 any clue why is that because of? You don't give us any useful information, so we're not going to be able to give you a useful answer. Please see

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Mark Sapiro wrote: This is a security and bug fix release and it is highly recommended that all sites upgrade to this version. Mailman 2.1.10 also adds support Quick clarification: It's somewhat unusuall for it to be recommended that all sites upgrade to a release

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christopher X. Candreva wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Mark Sapiro wrote: This is a security and bug fix release and it is highly recommended that all sites upgrade to this version. Mailman 2.1.10 also adds support Quick clarification: It's somewhat unusuall for it to be recommended that all

[Mailman-Users] Email delays using Mailman and sendmail

2008-04-15 Thread Patil, Manjiri S
Hi, We have internal Mailing List server running Mailman 2.1.9 and SENDMAIL 8.13.8. Whenever someone sent email to particular mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED])consisting app 300 users recipients receive it after several hours. E.g see the following Email I sent yesterday at 3:19PM that came in at

Re: [Mailman-Users] Email delays using Mailman and sendmail

2008-04-15 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Patil, Manjiri S [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, We have internal Mailing List server running Mailman 2.1.9 and SENDMAIL 8.13.8. Whenever someone sent email to particular mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED])consisting app 300 users recipients receive it after several hours. E.g see the following

Re: [Mailman-Users] Email delays using Mailman and sendmail

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Patil, Manjiri S [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, We have internal Mailing List server running Mailman 2.1.9 and SENDMAIL 8.13.8. Whenever someone sent email to particular mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED])consisting app 300 users recipients receive it after several hours.

[Mailman-Users] attachments

2008-04-15 Thread Con Wieland
get the message text plus -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://maillists.uci.edu/mailman/public/test/attachments/ 20080415/846539df/attachment-0002.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name

Re: [Mailman-Users] topics

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote: You can do this with a withlist script such as the set_topics.py.txt script attached. You would save this in Mailman's bin/ directory as set_topics.py and run it via bin/withlist -l -r set_topics list user-email [topic ...]' Sorry, I forgot the attachment. Here it is. --

Re: [Mailman-Users] attachments

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
to the archives though I get the message text plus -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://maillists.uci.edu/mailman/public/test/attachments/ 20080415/846539df/attachment-0002.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed

Re: [Mailman-Users] attachments

2008-04-15 Thread Con Wieland
both the text and the attachment. When I go to the archives though I get the message text plus -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://maillists.uci.edu/mailman/public/test/attachments/ 20080415/846539df/attachment-0002.html -- next part

Re: [Mailman-Users] attachments

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Con Wieland wrote: On Apr 15, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Con Wieland wrote: My questions are, why am I getting the html attachments? Because the sender's MUA is sending them and your content filtering is either not on or is not removing HTML and not collapsing alternatives.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are two security issues mentioned in the announcement. harsh criticism How much sense does it make to announce security issues in a release CANDIDATE? Come on guys, release a STABLE version (or FIX), then announce.

[Mailman-Users] spam issue

2008-04-15 Thread Luke Daly
I have a large list (22000) users. it is configured with the following settings : Action to take when a moderated member posts to the list. = Discard Action to take for postings from non-members for which no explicit action is defined. = Discard All users are moderated except where they are an

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam issue

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Luke Daly wrote: I have a large list (22000) users. it is configured with the following settings : Action to take when a moderated member posts to the list. = Discard Action to take for postings from non-members for which no explicit action is defined. = Discard All users are moderated except

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Dragon
On Tue, April 15, 2008 16:24, Jim Popovitch wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are two security issues mentioned in the announcement. harsh criticism How much sense does it make to announce security issues in a release CANDIDATE? Come on

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Dragon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to be harshly critical as well. Did you even read the release notes in the announcement? Yes, I did. You are completely off base here. While Mark did not explicitly say so in his reply, the fixes for the security

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better to get a release out asap after that and let the community know that there are important fixes contained within. Fair enough. Where's the release then? Look, I know you folks are working hard on this, and I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Brad Knowles
Quoting Jim Popovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fair enough. Where's the release then? Dragon is right -- the code is up-to-date and waiting for translation, as do pretty much all RCs released by this project. Look, I know you folks are working hard on this, and I certainly don't dis-respect

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Jim Popovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fair enough. Where's the release then? Dragon is right -- the code is up-to-date and waiting for translation, as do pretty much all RCs released by this project. Look, I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 15, 2008, at 8:49 PM, Dragon wrote: My experience has been that by the time a release candidate is announced by this project, it is usually quite close to the final version and the only changes that are made in a stable release are

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jim Popovitch wrote: Fair enough. Where's the release then? Look, I know you folks are working hard on this, and I certainly don't dis-respect that. HOWEVER, the process flow needs some re-thinking. You should not publicly release security vulnerability details before fixes are identified for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Brad Knowles
If you want to do something that is actually productive here, why don't you find a way to use your own resources and your own personal free time to resolve this issue? Maybe you could run a very large mailing list server you'd be willing to use as a guinea pig for all RC's, so that we would

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I appreciate your view Jim, and I was remis in not making patches for 2.1.9 publicly announced and available[1], however, if you don't trust my 2.1.10 beta or rc release to be stable enough for production use, why would

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Brad Knowles
On 4/16/08, Jim Popovitch wrote: I can appreciate the significance of that situation. I don't know that I have a solution other than to ask what does ClamAV or SpamAssassin do in similar situations? Dunno. Do they have to support twenty different languages? Can those translations only