Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-15 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Jim Popovitch writes: On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:13 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: Jim Popovitch writes: Bingo! The dmarc folks (many of who are IETF participants) ignored and performed an end-run around the standards process. Not really. The basic

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Keith Bierman wrote: The obvious downside is that reply to poster stops working It doesn't in the From: Munging/Message wrapping feature in Mailman 2.1.16+. The poster's From: is merged into her possibly empty Reply-To:. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 04/14/2014 09:19 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: FWIW, here's a list of the DNs of subscriber addresses that got unsubscribed last week from one of FMP's lists, ostensibly as a result of the DMARC issue: yahoo.com hotmail.com comcast.net bellsouth.net att.net cityofgastonia.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-15 Thread Conrad G T Yoder
Seriously? AOL/MSN as well? My users are going to be pissed. Who’s going to blink first here? -Conrad -- Is there a suspect in your family? Contact the Ministry of Information. Ring 100 00 00. On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 04/14/2014 09:19 PM,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-15 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Conrad G T Yoder cgtyo...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Seriously? AOL/MSN as well? My users are going to be pissed. Just to be clear, all those domains (other than yahoo.com) will bounce email to you if your list sends out an email from a yahoo.com subscriber. It's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-15 Thread Conrad G T Yoder
Ok, thanks for the clarification. I thought Mark was saying that these had implemented the DMARC rules as well. -Conrad -- DO NOT FOLD, SPINDLE, MUTILATE On Apr 15, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Jim Popovitch jim...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Conrad G T Yoder

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-15 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Conrad G T Yoder cgtyo...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Ok, thanks for the clarification. I thought Mark was saying that these had implemented the DMARC rules as well. Well, technically they have implemented the DMARC rules. Yahoo.com publishes a dmarc record (dig

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-15 Thread Conrad G T Yoder
Yes, sorry for my sloppy language. I appreciate the clarification. -Conrad On April 15, 2014 9:49:55 AM PDT, Jim Popovitch jim...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Conrad G T Yoder cgtyo...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Ok, thanks for the clarification. I thought Mark was saying that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-15 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 12:38 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: Just to be clear, all those domains (other than yahoo.com) will bounce email to you if your list sends out an email from a yahoo.com subscriber. It's not the case that you need to prevent all those other domains (AOL/MSN/etc) from

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-15 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 12:38 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: Just to be clear, all those domains (other than yahoo.com) will bounce email to you if your list sends out an email from a yahoo.com subscriber. It's not the case

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-15 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote: So just to be clear, putting a damper on this at this point requires _only_ that posts from yahoo.com be blocked from posting to a list. Is this correct? This can be done by selectively unsubscribing (or

Re: [Mailman-Users] handler to auto detach attachment and link it to a website keeping html

2014-04-15 Thread Sylvain Viart
Hi, Le 13/04/2014 17:55, Mark Sapiro a écrit : withlist is the tool for this. + http://www.msapiro.net/scripts/test_handler.py I also updated the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/l4A9 to point to this script. Thanks, it saves me a lot of re-testing boring emails. Especially useful as I never

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-15 Thread Peter Shute
On 16 Apr 2014, at 4:05 am, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote: So just to be clear, putting a damper on this at this point requires _only_ that posts from yahoo.com be blocked from posting to a list. Is this correct? This can be done by selectively unsubscribing (or moderating) current

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-15 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Peter Shute psh...@nuw.org.au wrote: On 16 Apr 2014, at 4:05 am, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote: So just to be clear, putting a damper on this at this point requires _only_ that posts from yahoo.com be blocked from posting to a list. Is this correct?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-15 Thread Peter Shute
On 16 Apr 2014, at 6:23 am, Jim Popovitch jim...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Peter Shute psh...@nuw.org.au wrote: On 16 Apr 2014, at 4:05 am, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote: So just to be clear, putting a damper on this at this point requires _only_ that posts

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-15 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Conrad G T Yoder con...@yoders.org wrote: On Apr 15, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Jim Popovitch jim...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 12:38 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: Just to be clear, all

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-15 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 21:58 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: Correct. But that could all change tomorrow if they do add dmarc records for those domains. This is a pretty big deal, and it's been a week or more since Yahoo pulled this stunt. What kind of blowback are they getting, and is there any

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-15 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 21:58 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: Correct. But that could all change tomorrow if they do add dmarc records for those domains. This is a pretty big deal, and it's been a week or more since Yahoo