Hello,
I have a lot of mailing lists that I have to look after. NB: I am not
familiar with mailman.
I recently found out that the mailman is not archiving most of the mailing
lists. Here is some info that might give you some idea of what is going on.
1. /var/log/mailman/qrunner:
Apr 13
On Apr 15, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Jim Popovitch jim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote:
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 12:38 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
Just to be clear, all those domains (other than yahoo.com) will bounce
email to you if your list
I have a list where the email command to subscribe another user doesn't
seem to work when I include it in the body of an email and send it to
mylist-requ...@mydomain.tld.
subscribe [$$PASSWORD$$] [digest|nodigest] [address=$$ADDRESS$$]
When I try to use it, I get no notification back of any
Hello Walt Thiessen
Am 2014-04-15 23:25, schrieb Walt Thiessen:
I have a list where the email command to subscribe another user doesn't
seem to work when I include it in the body of an email and send it to
mylist-requ...@mydomain.tld.
subscribe [$$PASSWORD$$] [digest|nodigest]
On 04/15/2014 06:50 PM, Conrad G T Yoder wrote:
So it really doesn’t affect domain email hosted by Yahoo such as att.net,
sbcglobal.net, ymail.com, etc? Yahoo has not added a dmarc p=reject record
for email from these domains?
Short answer: That's correct.
Long answer:
On 04/16/2014 04:25 AM, Mailman Admin wrote:
Am 2014-04-15 23:25, schrieb Walt Thiessen:
I have a list where the email command to subscribe another user doesn't
seem to work when I include it in the body of an email and send it to
mylist-requ...@mydomain.tld.
subscribe [$$PASSWORD$$]
On 04/15/2014 01:23 PM, Shavkat_BEK wrote:
I recently found out that the mailman is not archiving most of the mailing
lists. Here is some info that might give you some idea of what is going on.
...
2. /var/log/mailman/error:
Apr 15 08:08:53 2014 (15279) SHUNTING:
Has anyone seen issues with Gmail accounts and Yahoo's DMARC policy?
I've been working with the list admins of one of FMP's hosted lists and
they've seen over 100 addresses unsubscribed from the usual suspects -
yahoo.com, att.net, Comcast, etc., but no Gmail accounts and there are
228 of them on
On 04/15/2014 09:08 AM, Sylvain Viart wrote:
I borrowed a code from Mailman/Handlers/MimeDel.py
def reset_payload(msg, txt, fname, url):
# Reset payload of msg to contents of subpart, and fix up content
headers
msg.set_payload(txt)
del msg['content-type']
del
This morning at 9 AM CDT one of FMP's lists here saw another mass
unsubscription event - 51 subscribers with the usual ESP addresses:
hotmail, yahoo, comcast, bellsouth, etc. Checking the list archive,
there have been no posts to the list from yahoo.com since the 13th.
Someone else must be
On 04/16/2014 06:58 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
Has anyone seen issues with Gmail accounts and Yahoo's DMARC policy?
I've been working with the list admins of one of FMP's hosted lists and
they've seen over 100 addresses unsubscribed from the usual suspects -
yahoo.com, att.net, Comcast, etc.,
On 04/16/2014 07:40 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
This morning at 9 AM CDT one of FMP's lists here saw another mass
unsubscription event - 51 subscribers with the usual ESP addresses:
hotmail, yahoo, comcast, bellsouth, etc. Checking the list archive,
there have been no posts to the list from
On 04/14/2014 04:39 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 04/13/2014 10:48 PM, Conrad G T Yoder wrote:
I have a large list (7600 addresses), and when I search for a list of users
of a popular domain (e.g. yahoo.com), I of course get a large result set
back - sometimes more than 50 beginning with a
On 04/16/2014 08:06 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
In the mean time, another work
around is when you click the link for another chunk and get the
unfiltered chunk back with a URL like
http://www.example.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=mchunk=1
in the browsers address bar, add the filter
On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 07:55 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 04/16/2014 07:40 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
This morning at 9 AM CDT one of FMP's lists here saw another mass
unsubscription event - 51 subscribers with the usual ESP addresses:
hotmail, yahoo, comcast, bellsouth, etc. Checking the
Just to confirm my suspicions, the chunk capability requires Mailman
newer than version 2.1.9? Another question: is there a way to negate
the findmember search, so that all members not in the example.com
domain could be shown?
Thanks!
Kirke Johnson Internet:
We have a community group mail list which we run using Mailman and have lately
had a problem getting our emails to members who have Bellsouth and Yahoo email
addresses. I've seen the posts about DMARC but am not that tech-savvy to figure
out what this means and how to resolve. Some of our
Lindsay Haisley writes:
I've been working with the list admins of one of FMP's hosted lists and
they've seen over 100 addresses unsubscribed from the usual suspects -
yahoo.com, att.net, Comcast, etc., but no Gmail accounts and there are
228 of them on the list. Nonetheless, the PC World
I'll jump in here and offer the quick solution that I'm using at FMP.
The primary culprit here is Yahoo, which publishes a DMARC p=reject
policy via DNS. To the best of our knowledge, so far, no one else is
doing this, although sbcglobal, att.net, comcast.net, Hotmail and a
number of other email
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 01:27:23AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
There are several possibilities. One is that DMARC doesn't define the
semantics of reject. (Why doesn't that surprise me?) Here's what
they say:
15.4. Rejecting Messages
This proposal calls for rejection of a
[DMARC's words]
o A silent discard, wherein the SMTP server returns a 2xy reply
code implying to the client that delivery (or, at least, relay)
was successfully completed, but then simply discarding the
message with no further action.
Naturally the people who can't read
Jose I. Rojas writes:
We have a community group mail list which we run using Mailman and
have lately had a problem getting our emails to members who have
Bellsouth and Yahoo email addresses. I've seen the posts about DMARC
but am not that tech-savvy to figure out what this means and how
On 04/16/2014 08:35 AM, Kirke Johnson wrote:
Just to confirm my suspicions, the chunk capability requires Mailman
newer than version 2.1.9?
If you mean the ability to set admin_member_chunksize from the admin
General Options page, then yes, that was added in 2.1.10. Everything
else to do with
On 4/16/2014 12:51 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
What I'm advising list admins here, which puts a band-aid on the
problem, is to put all yahoo.com subscribers on moderation, effectively
making them read-only subscriptions. Also go through your membership
list and clear any nomail disablements
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Joseph Brennan bren...@columbia.edu wrote:
[DMARC's words]
o A silent discard, wherein the SMTP server returns a 2xy reply
code implying to the client that delivery (or, at least, relay)
was successfully completed, but then simply discarding
On 04/16/2014 10:57 AM, Larry Kuenning wrote:
Query: On a very low-traffic mailing list (i.e. one where the list
admin doesn't think it too much trouble), would it be a reasonable
workaround for the list admin to paste the content of a
message-to-be-moderated (i.e. one From: a yahoo
Le 16/04/2014 19:57, Larry Kuenning a écrit :
also advising yahoo.com list subscribers to get a Gmail account (as free
and easy to get as a Yahoo account)
so to be sure all your mail a read by google :-)
(of course may be yahoo do the same - why people can't use they ISP's mail?)
jdd
--
On 04/16/2014 11:11 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
(2) You can break your mailing lists by using the author_is_list
option in Mailman 2.1.16 and later. This option will only be
available if the site configuration has ALLOW_AUTHOR_IS_LIST set
to Yes. This will cause the list to
On Apr 16, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
On 04/14/2014 04:39 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 04/13/2014 10:48 PM, Conrad G T Yoder wrote:
I have a large list (7600 addresses), and when I search for a list of users
of a popular domain (e.g. yahoo.com), I of course get a
Isn't this DMARC issue a bellwether for the end of email lists as we know them?
It seems to me that the means of production (the internet backbone, the mail
servers, etc) are now owned by Big Media (Comcast, Walt Disney, CBS, Viacom,
Time Warner) and it is in their interest to make sure they
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:54 PM, jason fb li...@datatravels.com wrote:
Isn't this DMARC issue a bellwether for the end of email lists as we know
them? It seems to me that the means of production (the internet backbone,
the mail servers, etc) are now owned by Big Media (Comcast, Walt
Alain Williams writes:
They should have allowed/defined a new 2xy code that could be
returned, eg 253 which means ''Mail accepted but will be
discarded''.
That's problematic. It would require an extension negotiated via EHLO
at least, and maybe a new SMTP RFC, since there's no registry
On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 04:34 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
It's not limited to mailing lists, either. Anybody who has a
forwarding mailbox is at some risk (in a personal .forward this is a
simple pass-through preserving the DKIM signature so it should be OK,
but I've seen commercial
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:31:25 +0200
jdd jdani...@free.fr wrote:
Hello jdd,
(... why people can't use they ISP's mail?)
In case that's not a rhetorical question:
Because every time you change provider, you would have to change email
address too. When you're subscribed to over one hundred
On Apr 17, 2014, at 04:34 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Sure, but that's the tradeoff that DMARC explicitly makes. DMARC
thinks that rejecting spam and phishing is sometimes more important
than delivering legitimate mail, and that the provider of a mailbox is
the appropriate entity to make that
On 4/16/2014 1:57 PM, Larry Kuenning wrote:
Query: On a very low-traffic mailing list (i.e. one where the list
admin doesn't think it too much trouble), would it be a reasonable
workaround for the list admin to paste the content of a
message-to-be-moderated (i.e. one From: a yahoo address)
Stephen,
Thank you very much for the summary of solutions. I was about to
suggest/request it. It may be helpful to add to the wiki as it seems
quite important and complicated. I'd be interested in more mails like
this, helping those of us move forward and alleviate the issues.
Unless I'm
On 04/16/2014 01:34 PM, Larry Kuenning wrote:
I've since thought of a third difficulty besides the two I mentioned.
If the post-to-be-moderated is itself a reply to an earlier post, then
mailman's archive threading will be broken unless the list moderator
goes to the trouble of setting up
On 04/16/2014 12:49 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
Simple pass-through forwarding/redirection of email is one of the
situations in which SPF fails. Does this in any way impact DMARC?
Not if the message is properly DKIM signed by the From: domain. In this
case DKIM passes and the domains align
Le 16/04/2014 20:59, Brad Rogers a écrit :
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:31:25 +0200
jdd jdani...@free.fr wrote:
Hello jdd,
(... why people can't use they ISP's mail?)
In case that's not a rhetorical question:
Because every time you change provider, you would have to change email
address too.
On 04/16/2014 01:30 PM, Tom Lieuallen wrote:
Thank you very much for the summary of solutions. I was about to
suggest/request it. It may be helpful to add to the wiki as it seems
quite important and complicated. I'd be interested in more mails like
this, helping those of us move forward
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 23:19:29 +0200
jdd jdani...@free.fr wrote:
Hello jdd,
Le 16/04/2014 20:59, Brad Rogers a écrit :
Because every time you change provider, you would have to change email
address too.
does this occur often?
It can, yes. In the past year, I've changed provider twice. If
If one is interested in maintaining one's identity, using an ISP's email
makes it a pain to change ISPs. Of course, that does make the ISPs very
happy.
This is a fascinating discussion and as administrator of two very small
lists, it's giving me an awful lot to think about. However, being a
On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 15:34 -0500, Mike Starr wrote:
I know there aren't any teeth behind RFCs but it might at least get
their attention.
Doubtful, but the sentiment is noble. My guess is that the people at
Yahoo who implemented this, and possibly also the designers of DMARC,
don't fully
From: m...@msapiro.net
Download the 2.1.17 tarball, unpack it and run configure, make and sudo
make install in the unpack directory which must not be the installation
directory.
Install it over your existing installation, and everything should be
fine, you shouldn't have to move anything.
On 04/16/2014 03:28 PM, Jon 1234 wrote:
I see mention of version 2.1.18 in the FAQ about DMARC. How long until
2.1.18 is released? (I can wait.) I really appreciate the responses,
thank you.
It will be very soon. A candidate within a week or so and final maybe
early May.
--
Mark Sapiro
I'd be interested in how others have implemented this. Here are the options
I've identified so far, with some questions.
* FUDforum - http://www.fudforum.org/forum/
This is a forum with a 'mailing list manager' admin page. For me, the script to
send list emails to the web forum only works from
On 4/16/2014 4:51 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote (about my suggestion of manually
moderating posts from Yahoo users):
But what you are suggesting is essentially what the Wrap Message option
introduced as a site option in 2.1.16 and expanded in 2.1.18 does.
Well, yes. But:
-- if you're working with
On 04/16/2014 12:20 PM, Conrad G T Yoder wrote:
What great service - 2-day turnaround on bug fixes! (Not that I will be
seeing it any time in the near future with my hosting service :^)
We try. Thanks for the appreciation.
Since we’re on the topic of items residing at
On 4/16/14, 7:06 PM, Jon 1234 wrote:
I'd be interested in how others have implemented this. Here are the options
I've identified so far, with some questions.
I have been (slowly) working on an module to integrate a mailing list to
a Drupal web site. My goal is to generate an archive
Conrad G T Yoder writes:
Since we’re on the topic of items residing at bugs.launchpad.net,
what are the odds of Bug #1067953
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1067953) getting a little
love? Not quite as easy a change as this one, but would benefit many
I’m sure. Everyone
From: rich...@damon-family.org
I have been (slowly) working on an module to integrate a mailing list to
a Drupal web site. My goal is to generate an archive that you can easily
find recent messages in, and then be able to reply back to the list via
the web site. I will need to look at some of
jason fb writes:
Isn't this DMARC issue a bellwether for the end of email lists as
we know them?
Yes and no. Those who like mailing lists as we know them will
continue to use them that way, assuming that there's no active
interference from the infrastructure itself. (This is supported by a
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