wrote on Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:08:34 -0800 (PST):
The easiest way to demonstrate is turn on ECN yourself on a linux-2.4
or linux-2.6 host.
Just echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn as root
Then you will find list.org doesn't work, until you...
echo 0 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn as
Bruce Best (CRO) wrote on Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:48:32 -0500:
The only potentially useful log I can see is the connection timed out
lines in the exim4 logs, which are the only thing showing that exim is
trying to send the email and it isn't getting through:
Then it is definitely not a Mailman
Chuq Von Rospach wrote on Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:48:23 -0800:
If you own a business, and your customers start telling your employees
when to take coffee breaks, would that upset you?
What's that got to do with Mailman or this list?
that's the same issue as when users decide when to make
One last comment. I had not followed the list for quite a few weeks or
longer, had a problem and opened the folder to see if it was mentioned in
any of the latest postings. One of the first I came across, reading from
behind, was this thread. Chuq's reply sounded quite rude to me at that
time,
Bruce Best (CRO) wrote on Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:45:17 -0500:
I sent a message to the list, then sent the message to the list and cc'd to
the troublsome email address. The cc goes through without a hitch, the
message from the list is never delivered.
If I understand correctly you can send
Mark Sapiro wrote on Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:17:28 -0800:
Previously you wrote So I set SMTP_MAX_RCPT = 5 in mm_cfg.py. I don't
know if SMTP_MAX_RCPT is a typo or if that is literally what you set,
but it could be the problem as the actual variable is SMTP_MAX_RCPTS.
Little mistake, great
Brad Knowles wrote on Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:32:18 +0100:
However, I also take Chuq's point that all security announcements
to this list, and all related mailman mailing lists hosted on
python.org, should be made by Barry or one of the other core
developers.
This was not a security
We have set MaxRecipientsPerMessage=5 in sendmail.cf on our servers to
counteract some spammers delivering for dozens of users. The side effect
of this is that when sending via mailman to our own clients it takes quite
a while because Mailman tries to send to more recipients with each
envelope
Mark Sapiro wrote on Wed, 9 Feb 2005 08:32:27 -0800:
Why do you think that? As a counterexample mine have been running
since Sept 26, 2004. Did you explicitly do a mailmanctl restart?
Wow, that's what I call a quick answer :-)
The machine was rebooted on January 26 because of a kernel
Chuq Von Rospach wrote on Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:47:34 -0800:
Either way, something like this should have been left to the project
developers (i.e. barry) to disclose.
Correct. But it's out and it's not Ron to blame, so I don't see a reason
for slapping Ron for posting it finally to the list.
BarbaraFTL Pantejo wrote on Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:07:48 -0500 :
Is there a good reason for Pantejo, BarbaraFTL ???
2) Reply with the Subject line intact and place Approved:{list password}
as the first line of the reply message.
should work if your mail client
Jan Schlosser wrote on Sat, 2 Oct 2004 10:47:34 +0200:
If he's not reading this list, you can suggest changing this part to
him.
Thanks, Jan, will do.
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John W. Baxter wrote on Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:14:15 -0700:
It's not that simple. SOME of the things you can put into mm_cfg.py apply
only to new lists.
You mean NOT only? That's exactly what makes it so confusing, the overall
changes which apply to all lists change immediately, the others
Mark Sapiro wrote on Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:11:29 -0700:
Did the lists exist when you set up mm_cfg.py?
Yes, I always create mailman as the first list, usually I don't log in,
but make my changes to mm_cgf.py and then add other lists from a template.
I suppose that's why I never noticed the
This is Mailman 2.1.5rc on Linux. I have seen this happen with 2.1.4 as
well.
Each night nightly-gzip creates a complaint about this:
List kunden-alle has a bogus archive_directory:
/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/kunden-alle
I'm not sure what it means. There's a symlink from private
Barbara Manning wrote on Mon, 17 May 2004 20:07:26 +0900:
If my only choice for this group is to read via my email client, I can do
that, it's just messy looking and I end up downloading about 75 messages a
day. I'll probably unsubscribe with this email address and set up a
separate
Pat Riehecky wrote on Wed, 12 May 2004 15:05:23 -0500 (CDT):
Any way to
have the program expect group nobody without doing that or a way to make
postfix use that group to run /only/ that script?
This depends on your Linux distribution, f.i. Suse will have those
variables in
Barbara Manning wrote on Sun, 16 May 2004 21:05:30 +0900:
I belive I need the NNTP (news server) for this list.
Barbara, this is a mailing list, not a newsgroup. Some mailing lists are
piped to/from a few newsservers, f.i. gmane.org. I think this isn't.
Are you sure, that you are interested
Somshekar wrote on Wed, 12 May 2004 15:49:31 +0530:
i wanted to setup mailman in DSL connection and i have a static IP. My
postfix is working good. pl tell me how should i go about it
There's nothing special, it's not of interest to Mailman, if you use DSL
or not, just follow the setup
Lloyd F. Tennison wrote on Tue, 11 May 2004 18:48:12 -0700:
Sender and the Errors
Sender is widely in use. Don't know what you mean by Errors.
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Paul H Byerly wrote on Mon, 10 May 2004 20:36:00 -0500:
Using the default - SMTPDirect.
Hm, there goes my theory ;-)
1. check if the exclusion rules work for you at all, f.i. exclude one of
your machines and then send a mail from it to you.
2. check the headers of the mailing list mails for
Brian York wrote on Mon, 10 May 2004 22:33:44 -0400:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
There's your answer, that's not a valid domain or email address. Try with
[] brackets around the IP.
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David Bear wrote on Mon, 10 May 2004 16:53:11 -0700:
I would like to setup a mail list that is threaded like a news group.
What exactly do you mean? Threading is done by the client and good clients
do good threading in mail *and* news.
Kai
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Barnaby Scott wrote on Mon, 10 May 2004 05:06:09 -0700 (PDT):
Does anyone have any suggestions about my original
query then (about 'affilate' members a couple of
threads back)?
Was it that where you wanted to have some not real members be able to
join in certain discussions they were
Paul H Byerly wrote on Mon, 10 May 2004 12:44:35 -0500:
Any ideas?
Looks quite valid. What delivery method do you use? If mailman doesn't
deliver by SMTP those filters may fail.
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John Poltorak wrote on Sat, 8 May 2004 16:56:55 +0100:
What is the best way of changing the name of a list?
copy the directory to a new name and then edit the list name in the web
interface (going to the URL for the new list, of course). This is probably
more difficult if you have archives,
Richard Barrett wrote on Sun, 9 May 2004 08:35:14 +0100:
It appears that not all version of MS Outlook have this behaviour
There is a misunderstanding in that FAQ article: MS Outlook and MS Outlook
Express are two totally different programs, despite both having Outlook
in the name. The
Richard Barrett wrote on Sun, 9 May 2004 12:46:56 +0100:
So change it.
I didn't feel like doing so since I'm not very much involved in Mailman.
Anyway, have done now.
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John wrote on Wed, 5 May 2004 08:04:23 -0700:
Is there any way, in a mass subscription txt file containing 'real-name
email-addr ' to turn the MODerator option on at the same time? Doing it
manually is a chore, as I have all MOD bits set to off in my list.
not sure what you mean. Do you want
Ralph Siemsen wrote on Tue, 04 May 2004 14:42:34 -0400:
Is it possible to manually dump the database of list members, remove the
offending email addresses, and then undump the database?
list_members is possibly what you want to use.
Kai
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Sean wrote on Thu, 6 May 2004 12:12:18 -0400 (EDT):
A more secure alternative is for your approved posters to add an
Approved header to their postings as a header, or as the first line of
the post).
I'd like to implement this but I'm uncertain to go about it. I'm pretty
certain the
Bob Bowers wrote on Wed, 05 May 2004 01:28:59 -0700:
In my community last week, someone gained access to a mail list with
hundreds of subscribers by mimicking an email address authorized to post to
the list (moderation bit set OFF). In such a case, moderator approval was
not required.
Lynn Poythress wrote on Tue, 4 May 2004 10:28:23 -0700:
ImportError: No module named japanese
AFAIK this is actually from Python. The standard install on some OS's
seems to require Japanese and Korean, for no good reason. That's why I
uninstalled these parts and I got the same error when
Martin Maechler wrote on Wed, 5 May 2004 17:19:44 +0200:
As ML administrator, I've simply edited the list information
[text box] shown on the ./mailman/admin/ess-help page.
You didn't edit the whole page? It looks weird on other parts as well.
F.i. on top there is
FORM Method=POST
Martin Oehler wrote on Mon, 3 May 2004 23:03:41 +0200:
Could someone point me in the right direction where to find
documentation for moving/upgrading my lists?
There isn't much to do when you want to move/upgrade lists. I upgraded
from the standard mailman which came with my Suse
Richard Barrett wrote on Thu, 29 Apr 2004 23:35:07 +0100:
Do I hear a volunteer. Sounds like someone about to break out the text
editor and demonstrate what open software is all about.
Not me. I'm really not interested in HTML in email in any form :-)
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wrote on Sat, 1 May 2004 03:39:00 EDT:
I was advised by Barry Warsaw to contact you .
Really? I wonder why.
I am in need of help with
my subscription to The _peterson trial_ The Peterson Case Updates. I have
been a subscriber since November 30, 2004.
It sounds like you are subscribed
Brad Knowles wrote on Sun, 2 May 2004 03:08:13 +0200:
You need to turn off quoted-printable within your mail program,
and use plain 7-bit ASCII.
As a side note, he possibly wants to enable 8bit, because he's French. If
that client is Outlook (Express) that means: choose *no* encoding for
Jason Shouler wrote on Sat, 01 May 2004 11:30:13 +0100:
Or have I missed a far simpler approach?
I think so, yes. you don't need to setup anything additionally. Everything
after and including the plus is just ignored by sendmail unless you put up
special aliases for catching them.
Kai
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Craig Elkins wrote on Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:22:45 -0400:
I'm getting inundated with bounces resulting from list member email
that has no attachments.
I don't see how a mail with no attachments should trigger a bounce. I
suggest telling more about what's going on.
Kai
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Craig Elkins wrote on Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:50:08 -0400:
Message delivery to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' delayed
SMTP module(domain [192.168.1.1]) reports:
no route to host
there is your answer. This is possibly not a mailman problem, but your MTA
can't get DNS data or so, maybe the NAT-Firewall has
B. van Ouwerkerk wrote on Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:43:45 +0200:
FWIW, sending the same question twice within a short time doesn't help in
getting an answer quickly.
It seems there were more duplicates, maybe it's the list.
Kai
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Louis Proyect wrote on Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:59:45 -0400:
Supposedly a message of who 'password' sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] will provide such a list but it does not seem
to recognize the command
So, what does it say in the reply?
Kai
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Steve Williams wrote on Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:49:03 -0600:
then make, make install, and it resolved the problem!
I'm not sure if that solves all three of the mentioned problem areas, but
if you say so, I won't argue. It doesn't solve, though, what I think is
the main problem and which wasn't
Hunter Hillegas wrote on Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:14:20 -0700:
We're seeing the footer coming along as an attachment on some end-users
systems.
Something similar has been mentioned here some days ago. I think this can
happen if the mail sent to the list is HTML.
Kai
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Todd wrote on Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:33:04 -0400:
There is, but it's not in the obvious place that list admins would
look for it. Check the bottom of the listinfo page for your list and
you can get the subscriber list from there.
Thanks! Yes, I surely didn't look there, particularly because all
Sean Robertson wrote on Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:08:01 -0400:
Looks like the host is keeping mailman on a seperate server. Is there
any way to still do it, or am I stuck?
you could hold a copy of the members list on your server and grep that
each time.
Kai
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Hunter Hillegas wrote on Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:08:13 -0700:
Any way to fix this and retain the message in HTML format?
Add the footer in HTML and integrate it in the existing message ;-) Better
solution: keep HTML off the list, it annoys many people and spoils
archiving.
Kai
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Paul Tomblin wrote on Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:39:03 -0400:
And what about the principle that you shouldn't mess with the body of a
message except for putting clearly marked headers and footers that are
obviously not part of the sender's text? Once you start trying to parse
the html and put
Ruben Franco wrote on Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:05:16 -0600:
So does the lists sub-directory contain data for each individual list
including rosters and digests?
you mean archives? They are in the archives directory. Just have a look at
your mailman directory. It's all quite clean and neatly
There doesn't seem to be an option for listing all members on the web
interface and there's also no chance to do it with the search. Search
obviously transforms strings automatically to regexes (that is I can
search for a string and don't need to create a regex), but it doesn't
produce a
I usually subscribe members to our announce-only lists via web interface
and don't send them a welcome notice. But today I did and found that
nothing gets sent. Unsubscription sends an unsubscribe confirmation to the
member and I also get my list-admin notice when I tick it. But no welcome
David Kiner wrote on Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:01:54 +0200:
I re run mailman port, with make --with-mail-gid=mailman but I have the same
result.
I always do it this way:
make distclean, then *configure* with the above, then make.
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Ruben Franco wrote on Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:11:46 -0600:
In the event of the corruption of an individual list or loss of the
entire Mailman server, are there any tips for recovery for either
individual lists or for restoration the entire mailman application from
a tape backup? Are there any
Brendan Chard wrote on Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:55:37 -0400:
Is it ok to refer to a list on
a mailman server as a listserv?
You could refer to the mailman machine running the lists or the conglomerate
of runners as a list server or listserv if you like, but a list? Why
should a list in itself be
Richard Barrett wrote on Mon, 26 Apr 2004 00:19:10 +0100:
Depending on the site and list policies some, all or none of the
messages you receive may VERP'ed.
Thank you both for the explanation. What made me ask this is that when I
first subscribed to the list in February I checked the
Installed the new tarball, upgrade from 2.1.4 to 2.1.5, no problems so
far.
A few things I noticed (already present earlier, not 2.1.5 specific, but
now I took note), should I report any of them via bugtracker or is this
intentional?
- all programs show up as python in top, would be nice to
Steven Massey wrote on Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:39:49 -0700:
I
thought MS Word would fall under the application category.
documents are not applications, just look what the message shows for the
MIME type.
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Paul Tomblin wrote on Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:22:59 -0400:
BTW: Are you using some weird text encoding? All your apostrophes end up
like control characters to me.
He uses Outlook/Word and this apostrophe ´ instead of ', or maybe it's
Outlook/Word converting it for him, a Microsoft specialty
Jimmi Pennerup wrote on Sun, 25 Apr 2004 07:18:49 +0200:
[Sun Apr 25 07:48:13 2004] [error] [client 192.168.0.11] script not
found or unable to stat: /usr/local/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/create
I assume the script resides there and Apache is allowed to run it as a
script? Check if the path in the
Jimmi Pennerup wrote on Sun, 25 Apr 2004 17:40:42 +0200:
Directory /usr/local/lib/mailman/cgi-bin
AllowOverride All
Options +ExecCGI
AddHandler cgi-script *
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
Hm, I simply use a ScriptAlias in the VirtualHost, excerpt:
Texas critter wrote on Sun, 25 Apr 2004 11:13:30 -0500:
That may be the problem? Setting a cgi-bin to 777 can trigger a security
issue. Try setting it to 755 instead and see if it works?
Indeed, check the suexec.log file, if there are any warnings/errors.
User and Group have either to match
I get mail for this list from these two:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why?
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Barry Warsaw wrote on Sat, 24 Apr 2004 23:47:34 -0400:
If you upgrade you should do so only on a quiet system. I recommend
shutting down Mailman, your MTA, and your web server before doing the
upgrade. Please note any problems you have with the conversion scripts
(you may want to make
Lloyd F. Tennison wrote on Fri, 23 Apr 2004 18:10:07 -0700:
Companies are now starting to block Mailman lists (among others)
because of the way the headers are sent out stating the hand-off to
the server:
This is not because of Mailman, this is because they misconfigured their
spam
I created new lists by copying existing directories and made the necessary
changes with withlist etc., but these lists didn't have their archive
directories yet. nightly_gzip barked about that (bogus archive directory
for mailing list ...) and then sent this message to the mailman mailing
wrote on Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:28:10 -0400:
I am the owner/ webmaster of www.imagesofeden.com and just recently,
the website was moved to a different IP address.
sounds like your webhosting service did this. You should contact them.
Kai
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Christophe Zwecker wrote on Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:55:05 +0200:
Apr 23 16:45:23 zer00 Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to find group name
courier. Try adding this group to your system, or re-run configure,
providing an existing group name with the command line option
--with-mail-gid.
Did you
I created new lists by copying existing directories and made the necessary
changes with withlist etc., but these lists didn't have their archive
directories yet. nightly_gzip barked about that (bogus archive directory
for mailing list ...) and then sent this message to the mailman mailing
Brad Knowles wrote on Mon, 9 Feb 2004 12:48:19 +0100:
Searchable Archives:
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unfortunately, the link to the maillists on www.lists.org doesn't point to
that archive. Wouldn't it be much better to change that link to point to a
Just started using mailman (2.1.4) and can't find good answers for the
following questions in the documentation. They may have been answered
already on this list, but unfortunately the archive isn't searchable.
1. how to make a one-way mailing-list for sending out newsletters to
customers
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