Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages - Files

2014-12-11 Thread Peter Shute
On 11 Dec 2014, at 6:55 am, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 12/10/2014 03:56 AM, r...@rexgoode.com wrote: They wanted to know if there was a files area where they could upload things like Word documents, etc. I told them there wasn't. But there is in a way at least. If you

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages - Files

2014-12-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/11/2014 03:40 AM, Peter Shute wrote: If all non text attachments get archived with this setting, do the html versions of messages get archived too? Do you also find the little graphics some people use in their signatures getting archived? It all depends on your Content filtering.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages - Files

2014-12-10 Thread rex
Well, everyone, my disadvantages/advantages list was successful in getting people to join my mailman list. There were a few holdouts, but the main players decided that the list was a good idea and signed up. The rest will probably follow when their discussion dries up and everything that's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages - Files

2014-12-10 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 12/10/2014 3:56 AM, r...@rexgoode.com wrote: They wanted to know if there was a files area where they could upload things like Word documents, etc. [...] Is there a way for me to detect that they have logged in and give them access to be able to up- and download files to an area I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages - Files

2014-12-10 Thread rex
Hmmm. A python pickle. Dill or sweet? Sounds interesting. I can probably read python if I try. Might actually like it Sent from my android device. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages - Files

2014-12-10 Thread Tracey McCartney
Rex: Instead of rolling your own, you might consider throwing up a Drupal site. Drupal is free, and it has a module called Mailman Manager that integrates Mailman with Drupal. The site can be your files repository. As a bonus, your list members can manage their subscriptions through the Drupal

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages - Files

2014-12-10 Thread Keith Bierman
Obviously, since we're all here we've chosen mailman and related tools. But for a relatively small group of novices wouldn't the old egroups.com (taken over by yahoo ages ago, but lives on) or google groups be an appropriate solution? They've got shared file areas, moderation, web and email

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages - Files

2014-12-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/10/2014 03:56 AM, r...@rexgoode.com wrote: They wanted to know if there was a files area where they could upload things like Word documents, etc. I told them there wasn't. But there is in a way at least. If you allow these as attachments in Content filtering or don't filter content at

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages - Files

2014-12-10 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Keith Bierman writes: Obviously, since we're all here we've chosen mailman and related tools. But for a relatively small group of novices wouldn't the old egroups.com (taken over by yahoo ages ago, but lives on) Friends don't let friends use Yahoo! services. They demonstrably have

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages - Files

2014-12-10 Thread rex
Mark, That sounds great! Easy and no grueling programming in unfamiliar territory. Rex Quoting Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net: On 12/10/2014 03:56 AM, r...@rexgoode.com wrote: They wanted to know if there was a files area where they could upload things like Word documents, etc. I told them

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages - Files

2014-12-10 Thread rex
Agreed about Yahoo. I get lots of spam from friends who have had their Yahoo mail hacked. I finally convinced my wife to stop using Yahoo. Quoting Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org: Keith Bierman writes: Obviously, since we're all here we've chosen mailman and related tools. But

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-08 Thread Carl Zwanzig
FWIW, a friend had to fall back to BCCs for a specific announcement list because over half the 80 list members are on aol/comcrap/yahoo/hotmail (DMARC) and the mailman installation isn't fully up to date. For these specific circumstances, it works, but neither of us would try it for more

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-08 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 08:49 -0800, Carl Zwanzig wrote: FWIW, a friend had to fall back to BCCs for a specific announcement list because over half the 80 list members are on aol/comcrap/yahoo/hotmail (DMARC) and the mailman installation isn't fully up to date. For an announcement list, I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-08 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 09:36 -0800, Carl Zwanzig wrote: On 12/8/2014 9:11 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: For an announcement list, I would think this would be a problem only if he was posting _from_ an address that advertises a DMARC policy. you'd think so, but the sender is on well.com; all

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/08/2014 10:01 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 09:36 -0800, Carl Zwanzig wrote: you'd think so, but the sender is on well.com; all of the yahoo/hotmail/etc addresses bounced and all the others were delivered. Circumstances being what they are, it's not worth my time to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-08 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 12/8/2014 10:01 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 09:36 -0800, Carl Zwanzig wrote: you'd think so, but the sender is on well.com; all of the yahoo/hotmail/etc addresses bounced and all the others were delivered. Circumstances being what they are, it's not worth my time to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-08 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 10:25 -0800, Carl Zwanzig wrote: (Please don't ask me questions about this, the answer would probably be a tarball of the logs. I'm sorry I even brought it up.) LOL!! No regrets, Carl :) No, no! We DON'T need a tarball of logs! I'll drop the subject. -- Lindsay

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-07 Thread rex
Hey, everyone. Thanks for your feedback on my request for advantages/disadvantages of a mailing list over a Cc list. I came up with the following, based on your feedback, and reworded in language I think my colleagues can understand. Would you look it over and tell me if I've

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-07 Thread rex
I suppose I should have added what I wanted you to look at. I don't think mailman reads minds, yet. Disadvantages for Using Cc to Manage a Mailing List 1) The list of recipients can be added to without the recipient's permission. 2) Any recipient can delete an address from the list. 3) When

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-07 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Sun, 2014-12-07 at 13:52 -0800, r...@rexgoode.com wrote: I suppose I should have added what I wanted you to look at. I don't think mailman reads minds, yet. Running a discussion list using email CCs is, IMHO, unwieldy to the point of being unusable. A point which I didn't see in your

[Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-03 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
r...@rexgoode.com writes: I can think of a lot of advantages myself, but I'm wondering if anyone has seen a good list somewhere. There may be one on the wiki somewhere. Besides the points Barry made, I would add: 1. Easier personal filtering. Geeks can use the List-* headers,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-03 Thread Peter Shute
I would have thought the biggest problem with a Cc list is keeping the list up to date. If new people need to be added, removed or updated, people may use an old list for a long time after. It may be impossible to get some people to update it ever, or they might update then revert to an old

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-03 Thread Thomas Gramstad
On Wed, 3 Dec 2014, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: r...@rexgoode.com writes: I can think of a lot of advantages myself, but I'm wondering if anyone has seen a good list somewhere. I have a list here:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-03 Thread Gary Algier
On 12/03/14 03:09, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: r...@rexgoode.com writes: I can think of a lot of advantages myself, but I'm wondering if anyone has seen a good list somewhere. There may be one on the wiki somewhere. Besides the points Barry made, I would add: 1. Easier personal

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-03 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Peter Shute writes: I would have thought the biggest problem with a Cc list is keeping the list up to date. It is. But don't fix what ain't broke is a great rule. *We* (technies) should apply it more often. ;-) In this case, some education is indeed in order IMHO. So the OP had it

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-03 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Thu, 2014-12-04 at 00:55 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: But don't fix what ain't broke is a great rule. *We* (technies) should apply it more often. ;-) It is often said, with some truth, that the only way to get a computer program finished is to kill the programmer. -- Lindsay Haisley

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-03 Thread Steven Jones
+steven.jones=vuw.ac...@python.org on behalf of r...@rexgoode.com r...@rexgoode.com Sent: Wednesday, 3 December 2014 1:05 p.m. To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Advantages I have been a long-time user of mailman and have been on many mailing lists. I am also part of a professional

[Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-02 Thread rex
I have been a long-time user of mailman and have been on many mailing lists. I am also part of a professional association of social workers that operate in my area. They have been using a list of addresses in a Cc field to manage their mailing list. I can't imagine anything more fraught

Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-02 Thread Barry S. Finkel
On 12/2/2014 6:05 PM, r...@rexgoode.com wrote: I have been a long-time user of mailman and have been on many mailing lists. I am also part of a professional association of social workers that operate in my area. They have been using a list of addresses in a Cc field to manage their mailing