Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-02-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 2/2/19 12:47 PM, William Bagwell wrote: > > BTW do not see a "Keywords: header." but do see an X-Topics: FOO. With FOO: > also appearing in the Subject header. The X-Topics: FOO is because the post matched the FOO topic. A Keywords: header if any is added by the poster with the intent that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-02-02 Thread William Bagwell
On Saturday 02 February 2019, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > I feel like Mailman's "Topic" feature is under utilized.  :-/ Agreed! Oddly none of the 'techie' lists I have ever been on enable this feature. Couple of critter lists that started on Listserve and moved to Mailman do. First

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-02-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
R. Diez writes: > Your comments are surprisingly unfair for someone in a mailing list > for mailing list software. How would you be a good judge of fairness? Have you been developing mailing list software for twenty years and reading the requests and problems of users daily for that period?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-02-02 Thread Richard Damon
On 2/2/19 1:37 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > On 2/1/19 6:49 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >> Yes, Mailman has a feature call topics, but that is very different >> then what the OP is asking for. > > Agreed.  (I thought I covered that in my last email.  Maybe I wasn't > clear.) > >> The

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-02-02 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 2/1/19 6:49 PM, Richard Damon wrote: Yes, Mailman has a feature call topics, but that is very different then what the OP is asking for. Agreed. (I thought I covered that in my last email. Maybe I wasn't clear.) The Mailman 'Topic' operation basically provides the ability of the list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-02-01 Thread Richard Damon
On 2/1/19 4:44 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > On 02/01/2019 01:14 AM, R. Diez via Mailman-Users wrote: >> Of course there is the concept of 'Topic' in a mailing list. Mailman, >> the web interface, or whatever, does know how to group topics >> together. That is an obvious feature,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-02-01 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 02/01/2019 01:14 AM, R. Diez via Mailman-Users wrote: Of course there is the concept of 'Topic' in a mailing list. Mailman, the web interface, or whatever, does know how to group topics together. That is an obvious feature, because people tend to work/participate in threads. I believe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-02-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 2/1/19 5:36 AM, R. Diez via Mailman-Users wrote: > >> [...] >> 'Mostly work' is often a problem. Computers need precise procedures, and >> people tend to expect that they do things right. > > No need to be so strict. Easy to say if you're not the one who has to deal with the bug reports.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-02-01 Thread Carl Zwanzig
To analogize the entire thread- Mailman is a high quality precision-ground Phillips screwdriver, but it does not work on square-drive (Robertson) screws nor open paint cans. The OP is asking that it be modified so that it does; the developers and other users are discussing why this is not a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-02-01 Thread vince
08:36 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject Perhaps I'm being a bit over dramatic, but it does, in my mind, describe what you seem to be doing, You come in and say that the list software isn't working the way you would prefer, but for this conversation,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-02-01 Thread R. Diez via Mailman-Users
Perhaps I'm being a bit over dramatic, but it does, in my mind, describe what you seem to be doing, You come in and say that the list software isn't working the way you would prefer, but for this conversation, everyone else needs to change how they use the list so you can > [...] You are

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-02-01 Thread Richard Damon
On 2/1/19 3:14 AM, R. Diez wrote: > > > [...] >> I will ask you how much you are willing to talk to a person who >> basically interrupts, says they aren't really interested in the general >> conversation, so isn't really listening, but if you go out of your way >> to answer in a special way they

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-02-01 Thread Chip Davis
On 2/1/2019 3:30 AM, R. Diez via Mailman-Users wrote: This is becoming tiresome... Indeed. Except I'd substitute the second-person pronoun for the third... Mailman has a long page with settings like digest mode, stop delivery (holiday mode), and many, many more. Other communication

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-02-01 Thread Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users
Hello R. Diez. On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 09:30:54 +0100, you wrote: > Other systems can do it. I understand that you do not want to > implement it yourself in Mailman, but why oppose the idea? Then use these "other systems", please. Or try to implement the solution suggested by tlhackque in his/her

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-02-01 Thread R. Diez via Mailman-Users
Except then you run into ethical issues and possible legal violations of emailing people who have not opted-n to receive the email. This is becoming tiresome... When you e-mail or subscribe to a mailing list, you are opting in to receive e-mail. If you participate in a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-02-01 Thread R. Diez via Mailman-Users
> [...] I will ask you how much you are willing to talk to a person who basically interrupts, says they aren't really interested in the general conversation, so isn't really listening, but if you go out of your way to answer in a special way they will hear you. (Which is one way to describe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-01-31 Thread Richard Damon
On 1/31/19 12:58 PM, R. Diez via Mailman-Users wrote: > > > [...] >> I think you are talking here about a web forum, where you can >> "subscribe" >> to information posted to a certain thread. I never saw this in a real >> mailing list. >> >> I Cc: this reply to you to make sure you see it - but I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-01-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/31/19 12:05 PM, R. Diez via Mailman-Users wrote: > > I asked about a way around a perceived limitation, and in the face of > the answer, I contributed with reasoning and examples (a couple of > links) about a missing feature and why it is important. You may not like > my view. You may have a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-01-31 Thread R. Diez via Mailman-Users
> [...] If you have no connection to them, but post to the list for your own benefit, that is called "spam". It is generally considered somewhere between rude and criminal. > [...] Your comments are surprisingly unfair for someone in a mailing list for mailing list software. Let's take me

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-01-31 Thread Keith Seyffarth
> All that would not be necessary if Mailman were smart enough. It > already knows how to group e-mails by subject. It could make sure the > participants > are all kept in the loop. Except then you run into ethical issues and possible legal violations of emailing people who have not opted-n to

[Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-01-31 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
R. Diez via Mailman-Users writes: > I have the following recurring problem with mailing lists all over > the Internet: people do reply to my posts, by they do not address > or copy me in their replies. They send their e-mails only to the > mailing list. Or they reply to the previous reply,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-01-31 Thread tlhackque via Mailman-Users
On 31-Jan-19 05:11, R. Diez wrote: > Hi all: > > I have the following recurring problem with mailing lists all over the > Internet: people do reply to my posts, by they do not address or copy > me in their replies. They send their e-mails only to the mailing list. > Or they reply to the previous

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-01-31 Thread R. Diez via Mailman-Users
> [...] I think you are talking here about a web forum, where you can "subscribe" to information posted to a certain thread. I never saw this in a real mailing list. I Cc: this reply to you to make sure you see it - but I wonοΏ½t do this for every message I write to any mailing list normally.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-01-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/31/19 2:11 AM, R. Diez via Mailman-Users wrote: > > Other forum software has a nice feature for this scenario: If I post to > a subject, I am automatically subscribed to that subject. I then get an > e-mail for any new posts with the same subject. > > The "topic" feature in Mailman is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-01-31 Thread Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users
Hello R. Diez via Mailman-Users. On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 11:11:48 +0100, you wrote: > I have the following recurring problem with mailing lists all over > the Internet: people do reply to my posts, by they do not address or > copy me in their replies. They send their e-mails only to the mailing >

[Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

2019-01-31 Thread R. Diez via Mailman-Users
Hi all: I have the following recurring problem with mailing lists all over the Internet: people do reply to my posts, by they do not address or copy me in their replies. They send their e-mails only to the mailing list. Or they reply to the previous reply, and forget to copy the original