Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-29 Thread Ruben Safir
On 02/29/2016 10:44 AM, Keith Seyffarth wrote: > how many honeypots are out there flagging this sender as a bad > sender and harming the listserv, or possibly the whole domain or IP as > being a problem sender? there are no honey pots. Most of the email addresses have been on the lists for a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-29 Thread Keith Seyffarth
> I would run through the logs to find all the domains that are timing out on > dns, then mark the recipients on those domains as "no mail". After that, see > how delivery goes for the rest of them. Besides, why keep users on the list > than don't exist or actually get delivery? Shouldn't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-29 Thread Ruben Safir
On 02/29/2016 04:19 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > From looking at your Postfix logs, it looks as though you have a major > > DNS problem. I suggest that you install bind and set up a caching DNS > > server on the same box that is running Mailman. > > Good idea, but I suspect that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Thanks for the suggestions, Hank! Hank van Cleef writes: > From looking at your Postfix logs, it looks as though you have a major > DNS problem. I suggest that you install bind and set up a caching DNS > server on the same box that is running Mailman. Good idea, but I suspect that wouldn't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-29 Thread Ruben Safir
On 02/29/2016 03:08 AM, Hank van Cleef wrote: > a. What is your computer hardware? fit/pc2 Intel Atom with a gig of ram and 2 gigs of swap on a tetrabyte - /proc/cpuinfo - processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family: 6 model : 28 model name:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-29 Thread Hank van Cleef
The esteemed Ruben Safir has said: > > On 02/28/2016 03:57 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > > On 2/28/2016 1:19 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >> If that doesn't make it obvious what you need to do, you might want to > >> tell us something about your configuration and use case. What

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Ruben Safir
On 02/29/2016 02:12 AM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > Oh, and -nothing- involved in email handling is "real time", which has a > fairly specific meaning in computing. *All* email is queued at least a > couple of times along the way and delivered as those systems get around > to it. Use whatever

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 2/28/2016 10:53 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: On 02/29/2016 01:42 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: dig gnutelephony.org that does hang. These are OLD mailing lists and it is hard to be responsible for 20 years of DNS errors by organizations I have no control over. I think that may be the crux of your

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Ruben Safir
On 02/29/2016 01:50 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 02/28/2016 10:42 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> >> Can it be set up like that and if so, please tell me how. > > > I'm trying to! > > Please see my posts archived at > > and >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Ruben Safir
On 02/29/2016 01:42 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > dig gnutelephony.org that does hang. These are OLD mailing lists and it is hard to be responsible for 20 years of DNS errors by organizations I have no control over. -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/28/2016 10:42 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > > Can it be set up like that and if so, please tell me how. I'm trying to! Please see my posts archived at and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Ruben Safir
On 02/28/2016 10:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > IIRC, that means that DNS > lookup failed with no result, not that the relevant nameserver (the > .org rootserver in this case) said there was no such domain. That > probably means multiple timeouts on DNS lookups, each of which might > take 30

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Ruben Safir
On 02/28/2016 10:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > By the way, when did you switch to Mailman? Did you start > experiencing this problem immediately when you did? about 6 months ago and the problem was concurrent absolutely with the initiation of mailman. There seems to be no settings I can

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Ruben Safir
On 02/28/2016 10:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > I don't see how any mailing list > manager could deal efficiently with such a high rate of failure, OK - I understand. Another mailing list manager was doing it before perl4 really died. I guess the reality of this is beginning to sink in.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Ruben Safir writes: > When I read this, it just seems to me that you guys don't know how > the software works. This is user-supported software. Not everybody is all that expert, but people contribute when and what they can. And mild thread- hijacking like asking if there's a way to get

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/28/2016 03:04 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > On 02/28/2016 05:55 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> bin/config_list -o - listname | grep -v '^#' Ruben, This sub-thread is unrelated to your questions. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Ruben Safir
On 02/28/2016 05:55 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > bin/config_list -o - listname | grep -v '^#' real_name = 'hangout' owner = ['m...@here.com'] moderator = [] description = 'NYLXS Discussions List' info = '' subject_prefix = '[Hangout-NYLXS] ' anonymous_list = False first_strip_reply_to = False

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/28/2016 12:57 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > > Would it be difficult to add a command similar to postfix's postconf -n > that would dump the currently used config? Mailman's bin/config_list -o - listname | grep -v '^#' will dump the current config. If you really want postconf -n like output

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Ruben Safir
www:~ # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/version Using Mailman version: 2.1.17 www:~ # postconf -d | grep mail_version mail_version = 2.11.3 milter_macro_v = $mail_name $mail_version -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in

[Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2/28/2016 1:19 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > If that doesn't make it obvious what you need to do, you might want to > tell us something about your configuration and use case. What version > of Mailman? Did you install as a package from a distribution or from > source?