Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-11-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Bernd == Bernd Petrovitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Content-Type: header specifying charset=utf-8. For reasons I don't understand, the HTML standard says the server provided Content-Type: charset takes priority over that specified by an HTML META tag. Bernd I don't

Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-11-01 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
Sorry for wrong threading but I accidentally deleted the last email here: One reason is that the server may very well translate the encoding based on negotiation with the client. (I guess you could argue that Yes, but *if* the encoding is negotatied, a default value makes not that much sense

Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-10-31 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 14:05 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: I actually reported a bug (though it may not sound so): I enter (apparently) UTF-8 text (with Firefox it that is important) and it comes back disguised (and as part of) ISO-8859-1 text. The question is: Which part

Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-10-24 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 12:52 +0200, Hannah Schroeter wrote: [...] On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 11:58:37PM +0200, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: Apparently all of the German translation of Mailman is in ISO-8859-1 (or ISO-8859-15) - at least in the standard Debian mailman package. Is there a special

Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-10-24 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:04 PM +0200 2005-10-24, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: The other solution is to use ouml; and brothers and blame the ML admin if he doesn't do so (and put in somwhere into the docs or so). There is BTW a similar problem: If I enter (quotes) in the web interface, they are converted to

Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-10-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: The problem is that I enter text in the web-interface on a default UTF-8 system and it is apparently stored as UTF-8. The pages are delivered as ISO-8859-1 according to the HTTP header and the header in the file. So the CGI scripts actually should convert correctly the

Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-10-24 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 09:52 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] As Brad points out in another reply, some of this problem is because all text entered in the web interface (except for General Options-info which is a special case) is HTML escaped to prevent XSS attacks. Mailman arguably goes

Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-10-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: I actually reported a bug (though it may not sound so): I enter (apparently) UTF-8 text (with Firefox it that is important) and it comes back disguised (and as part of) ISO-8859-1 text. The question is: Which part is doing something wrong and how to fix it? What happens

[Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-10-23 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
Apparently all of the German translation of Mailman is in ISO-8859-1 (or ISO-8859-15) - at least in the standard Debian mailman package. Is there a special reason for not moving to UTF-8 in general? Bernd -- Firmix Software GmbH http://www.firmix.at/ mobil: +43 664