Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problems with privacy and mailman lists and harvesters

2008-06-04 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Michael Welch writes: Right, there's lots broken at Topica. But I sure do like the intent of their obscuration technique. I don't. What they're obscuring is that it doesn't work. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org

Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problems with privacy and mailman lists and harvesters

2008-06-03 Thread Michael Welch
Mark Sapiro wrote at 08:58 PM 6/2/2008: | I think the Topica listserver had a great way to deal with email | addresses in archives. You could see a semblance of the email address, | but no way could you deduce the real address. If you are logged into | the site, each is still obscured, but is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problems with privacy and mailman lists and harvesters

2008-06-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dragon wrote: | | If I am not mistaken, I believe that there is currently a wrapper | script that handles access control to private archives but which gets | bypassed if the archive is public. The current architecture under | pipermail is that the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problems with privacy and mailman lists and harvesters

2008-06-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 | I think the Topica listserver had a great way to deal with email | addresses in archives. You could see a semblance of the email address, | but no way could you deduce the real address. If you are logged into | the site, each is still obscured, but

Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problems with privacy and mailman lists and harvesters

2008-05-27 Thread Dragon
Michael Welch wrote: Steve Murphy wrote at 10:03 AM 5/23/2008: I've noticed in the mailman-users archives, that if I view info by thread (using the mailman archives as an example,) which site is 2.1.10 based, that all email addresses are present, but with a simple obfuscation. (the @ has

Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problems with privacy and mailman lists and harvesters

2008-05-24 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Michael Welch wrote: [Regarding obscuring email addresses in archives] I think the Topica listserver had a great way to deal with email addresses in archives. You could see a semblance of the email address, but no way could you deduce the real address. If you are logged into the site, each is

[Mailman-Users] Major problems with privacy and mailman lists and harvesters

2008-05-23 Thread Steve Murphy
Hello! I'm quite concerned about what I'm seeing in mailman installations, and the amount of spam I've been getting because I participate in mailman based lists! I'm not talking about halting spam that gets submitted to the list for mailing. I'm not talking about spambots automatically joining

Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problems with privacy and mailman lists and harvesters

2008-05-23 Thread Gadi Evron
Hi Steve. Thank you for your email, it is well researched and conveys your point of view. Your points on inconsistency in protecting email addresses in the archives are interesting. Also, I am no lover of spammers. That said, can you break down your suggestions to those relevant to the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problems with privacy and mailman lists and harvesters

2008-05-23 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Steve Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Within MINUTES of my first posting on asterisk-users, I was getting spam on an email address that was brand-new. How do you know that it was your archived post that the spammers picked up on?It is also possible that the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problems with privacy and mailman lists and harvesters

2008-05-23 Thread Michael Welch
Steve Murphy wrote at 10:03 AM 5/23/2008: I've noticed in the mailman-users archives, that if I view info by thread (using the mailman archives as an example,) which site is 2.1.10 based, that all email addresses are present, but with a simple obfuscation. (the @ has been changed to at .) I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problems with privacy and mailman lists and harvesters

2008-05-23 Thread Bill Christensen
When creating archives for one of the lists I run (until recently with another listserv software) I wrote a relatively simple find/replace grep which replaces the domain names so that email addresses become [EMAIL PROTECTED] In this case, the list itself is by invitation only but the archives