[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

2021-02-03 Thread steve lund
Mark, On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 12:07 AM Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 2/2/21 4:58 PM, steve lund wrote: > > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 10:14 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: > > > >> The only thing you can do is report to the ISP if you get a bounce > >> notice that indicated the sending IP is blocked. > >> > >

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

2021-02-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 2/2/21 4:58 PM, steve lund wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 10:14 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> The only thing you can do is report to the ISP if you get a bounce >> notice that indicated the sending IP is blocked. >> > > What does this message typically look like? I don't recall seeing "IP

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

2021-02-02 Thread steve lund
Mark, On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 10:14 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 2/1/21 6:25 PM, steve lund wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 12:05 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> > >> So it seems the notices are being sent and delivered to your spam > >> folder. You will need to regularly check that folder for these

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

2021-02-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
steve lund writes: > Seems like Google is mucking about with its filters! That's their raison d'etre. (It certainly can't be their execrable UI.) They do a good job at filtering, and it gets better over time. Sometimes they make mistakes. Users want them to shoot first and ask questions

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

2021-02-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
steve lund writes: > Seems like Google is mucking about with its filters! That's their raison d'etre. (It certainly can't be their execrable UI.) They do a good job, sometime they make mistakes. Users want them to shoot first and ask questions later. They're pretty good (too good when it

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

2021-02-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 2/1/21 6:25 PM, steve lund wrote: > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 12:05 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> So it seems the notices are being sent and delivered to your spam >> folder. You will need to regularly check that folder for these messages, >> or you MAY (I'm not an expert on this) be able to create

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

2021-02-01 Thread steve lund
Mark, On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 12:05 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 2/1/21 6:07 AM, steve lund wrote: > > > > I don't believe that the ISP changed the list configuration recently. So > if > > this is NOT a DMARC issue then any other thought as to what it could be? > > > DMARC mitigations are list

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

2021-02-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 2/1/21 6:07 AM, steve lund wrote: > > I don't believe that the ISP changed the list configuration recently. So if > this is NOT a DMARC issue then any other thought as to what it could be? DMARC mitigations are list settings set by the list admin (you) via the web admin UI, not by the ISP.

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

2021-02-01 Thread steve lund
Mark, On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 12:18 AM Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 1/31/21 6:42 PM, steve lund wrote: > > Tom, > > > > Good point. It has been a LONG time since I wandered into attempting to > > read email headers. Here is a sample header from the list that recently > had > > the domain related

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

2021-01-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/31/21 6:42 PM, steve lund wrote: > Tom, > > Good point. It has been a LONG time since I wandered into attempting to > read email headers. Here is a sample header from the list that recently had > the domain related bounce issue Let me know if you see anything that is > mis-configured. BTW,

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

2021-01-31 Thread steve lund
Tom, Good point. It has been a LONG time since I wandered into attempting to read email headers. Here is a sample header from the list that recently had the domain related bounce issue Let me know if you see anything that is mis-configured. BTW, the ISP is going to switch to the current Mailman

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

2021-01-31 Thread Thomas Coradeschi via Mailman-Users
> On 30 Jan 2021, at 5:22 PM, steve lund wrote: > > Mark, > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 10:36 AM Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> On 1/29/21 5:38 AM, steve lund wrote: >>> >>> ...And everyone else who replied, yes, this does indeed look like a DMARC >>> issue. I looked at the help pages and it looks

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

2021-01-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/30/21 2:22 PM, steve lund wrote: > > I don't know if it was a Mailman list or not. This was 2-3 years ago. I > looked at a current list message and there is no indication of the list > sender. Is there any way that I can send a query to get this information? What information are you trying

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

2021-01-30 Thread steve lund
Mark, On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 10:36 AM Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 1/29/21 5:38 AM, steve lund wrote: > > > > ...And everyone else who replied, yes, this does indeed look like a DMARC > > issue. I looked at the help pages and it looks like some things can be > > changed but from what I gather any

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

2021-01-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/29/21 5:38 AM, steve lund wrote: > > ...And everyone else who replied, yes, this does indeed look like a DMARC > issue. I looked at the help pages and it looks like some things can be > changed but from what I gather any changes would likely affect > functionality for the users. > > I am a

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

2021-01-29 Thread steve lund
Mark, ...And everyone else who replied, yes, this does indeed look like a DMARC issue. I looked at the help pages and it looks like some things can be changed but from what I gather any changes would likely affect functionality for the users. I am a member of a different list that munged the

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

2021-01-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/26/21 5:57 PM, steve lund wrote: > > We seem to be having all too frequent occurrences of multiple bounces that > seem to be related only to the domain of the address recipient. As pointed out in another reply, this is likely a DMARC issue and MM 2.1.34 has settings to mitigate this. >

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

2021-01-27 Thread Russell Clemings
Have you seen this? https://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 9:05 AM steve lund wrote: > Hello, > > I am the mailing list administrator for a charity cycling team. The list > currently has about 150 members. The list and our website is hosted by a > local ISP who is running