[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

2023-07-19 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
rich...@karmannghia.org writes: > (Maybe! How do we know they won't abandon Python3 like they did > Python2? They supported Python 2 for most of a decade after the release of Python 3. Not only does that bode well for longterm Python 3 support, there also will not be another break like Python

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

2023-07-18 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 7/18/2023 6:39 AM, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: Why isn't it just "Python"? Werlll... https://www.pluralsight.com/resources/blog/cloud/the-story-of-python-2-and-3 "Python 3 exists because Guido saw areas of the language that needed some improvements and the changes couldn’t be made with

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

2023-07-18 Thread Russell Clemings
Interesting guy, if this is him: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/08/man-who-built-isp-instead-of-paying-comcast-50k-expands-to-hundreds-of-homes/ On Tue, Jul 18, 2023, 6:40 AM wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2023, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > >> > >>> Python 2 and Python 3 are

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

2023-07-18 Thread Richard
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: Python 2 and Python 3 are enough different to effectively be different languages. BTW, there is a python2 to 3 converter,  There's also this project: https://github.com/jaredmauch/mailman2-python3/ -Jim P. Now that Jared

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

2023-07-17 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Tue, 2023-07-18 at 02:05 +, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > On 7/17/2023 5:54 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > > Python 2 and Python 3 are enough different to effectively be > > different languages. > > BTW, there is a python2 to 3 converter,  There's also this project:

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

2023-07-17 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 17 Jul 2023 17:24:15 -0700 (PDT) rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: > > > Inching forward here folks, trying to get Mailman 2.1.39 going. > > I get to the point it calls Python and it dies with: > > checking for python... /usr/local/bin/python > checking Python interpreter... configure:

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

2023-07-17 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 7/17/2023 5:54 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: Python 2 and Python 3 are enough different to effectively be different languages. BTW, there is a python2 to 3 converter, however -I- don't know how successful that would be and I've done multiple language conversions over time

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

2023-07-17 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 7/17/23 7:24 PM, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: OTOH, can Python3 (what's there now) be THAT backwards incompatible?! How incompatible are AM & FM radio? How incompatible are IPv4 and IPv6? How incompatible are gasoline and Diesel motors? SURELY I can make it happy somehow, right? As

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

2023-07-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 7/17/23 17:24, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: Inching forward here folks, trying to get Mailman 2.1.39 going. I get to the point it calls Python and it dies with: checking for python... /usr/local/bin/python checking Python interpreter... configure: error: * No Python interpreter

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

2023-07-17 Thread dmitri maziuk
On 2023-07-17 7:24 PM, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: P.S. It seems BIZARRE to me that we have the good ole cc and gcc that just work after however many decades Well... they have flags that I think maybe will still let them compile K C. C++, OTOH, is in many respects worse than python, and

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

2023-07-17 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 7/17/2023 5:24 PM, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: Inching forward here folks, trying to get Mailman 2.1.39 going. [...] OTOH, can Python3 (what's there now) be THAT backwards incompatible?! Oh yes it can! In some ways, it's a completely different language (and for that reason, MM2 hasn't