Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging STOP

2005-06-17 Thread Andy Heath
Other users have requested this conversation stop or move offline. Some persons did mail me offline in the same vein and I responded essentially to say I could see no point in continuing I'm right, you are wrong games. Please stop this conversation. That I differ from the perspective below is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging

2005-06-16 Thread Brad Knowles
At 6:20 PM +0100 2005-06-15, Andy Heath wrote: Many open source software products provide small text installation documentation files that explain what is needed for particular platforms - for example the XFree86 distributions used to (dunno if they still do). The answer come look over

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging

2005-06-16 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:25 AM +0100 2005-06-15, Andy Heath wrote: Its customary when you interact with a community to learn their language not expect them to learn yours. What you suggest doesn't satisfy the requirement I stated. If you're a RedHat user, then talking about SRPMs is precisely the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging

2005-06-15 Thread Andy Heath
I acknowledge Redhat do a good job with FHS and do interface with the community. Is there guidance in the standard mailman distributions on how to build for FC starting with a tar.gz ? According to their particular filesystem structure? No. That is something that RedHat would

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging

2005-06-15 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Andy == Andy Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andy A plea to Redhat - if you are going to purloin mailman and Andy do it with FHS then a file that accompanies the mailman Andy distribution that explains how to do a manual build that Andy conforms to the way RH does it would be

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging

2005-06-15 Thread Andy Heath
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Andy == Andy Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andy A plea to Redhat - if you are going to purloin mailman and Andy do it with FHS then a file that accompanies the mailman Andy distribution that explains how to do a manual build that Andy conforms

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging

2005-06-15 Thread John Dennis
On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 08:05 +0100, Andy Heath wrote: A plea to Redhat - if you are going to purloin mailman and do it with FHS then a file that accompanies the mailman distribution that explains how to do a manual build that conforms to the way RH does it would be very useful - a how to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging

2005-06-15 Thread Andy Heath
John Dennis wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 08:05 +0100, Andy Heath wrote: A plea to Redhat - if you are going to purloin mailman and do it with FHS then a file that accompanies the mailman distribution that explains how to do a manual build that conforms to the way RH does it would be very

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging

2005-06-15 Thread Steve Burling
--On June 15, 2005 6:20:00 PM +0100 Andy Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I differ from your view. I think you've made your position clear. John's made his position clear. How about if the two of you take the rest of this discussion offline? -- Steve Burling

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging

2005-06-15 Thread Charles Sprickman
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Steve Burling wrote: --On June 15, 2005 6:20:00 PM +0100 Andy Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I differ from your view. I think you've made your position clear. John's made his position clear. How about if the two of you take the rest of this discussion offline? Best

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging (was: 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem)

2005-06-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Andy Heath wrote: If the mailman developer community adopts the FHS for mailman then that's a different story entirely and I would follow without complaint. In fairness to John Dennis, he did raise these issues for discussion last year on the Mailman-Developers list. See threads at

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging

2005-06-14 Thread Andy Heath
Mark Sapiro wrote: Andy Heath wrote: If the mailman developer community adopts the FHS for mailman then that's a different story entirely and I would follow without complaint. In fairness to John Dennis, he did raise these issues for discussion last year on the Mailman-Developers list.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging

2005-06-14 Thread John Dennis
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 21:38 +0100, Andy Heath wrote: Is there guidance in the standard mailman distributions on how to build for FC starting with a tar.gz ? To the best of my knowledge the install document provided in the tar ball applies equally well to Fedora thus it is not necessary to have

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging

2005-06-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:38 PM +0100 2005-06-14, Andy Heath wrote: The issue it raises is maintenance. If FC does it differently then it means users are dependent on FC providing updated packages or working hard to manually do that mapping with updated code. Effectively it becomes an FC package not a