RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-07 Thread Tom Maddox
Well, I certainly appreciate everyone taking the time to look at this issue. Sounds like there's no good solution (well, I could "encourage" people to get off of Outlook--that'll go over well), so I'll just tell them to suck it up. Thanks, Tom --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-07 Thread Richard Barrett
At 09:25 07/02/2003, Simon White wrote: 07-Feb-03 at 01:58, Barry A. Warsaw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > TM> My users don't like the new From: format, and I am trying to > TM> get it back to the way it was, which seems like such a small > TM> and simple thing to do but evidently is no

Re: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-07 Thread Simon White
07-Feb-03 at 01:58, Barry A. Warsaw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > TM> My users don't like the new From: format, and I am trying to > TM> get it back to the way it was, which seems like such a small > TM> and simple thing to do but evidently is not. Also, getting > TM> rid of the te

RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-06 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "TM" == Tom Maddox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I think there is some confusion here about what is meant by >> VERP'ed address. TM> Evidently, you are correct. :-/ TM> So, that's not my problem, then, but my problem remains TM> unresolved. In a nutshell, here's what

RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-05 Thread Richard Barrett
At 23:18 05/02/2003, Tom Maddox wrote: > Tom > > I think there is some confusion here about what is meant by > VERP'ed address. Evidently, you are correct. :-/ So, that's not my problem, then, but my problem remains unresolved. In a nutshell, here's what I'm observing: Prior to my "upgrade" (o

RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-05 Thread Jon Carnes
Dude! Awesome explaination - should definitely go into the FAQ... On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 18:00, Richard Barrett wrote: > Tom > > I think there is some confusion here about what is meant by VERP'ed address. > > In MM 2.0.x outgoing mail from lists came from the > [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias. > > Wi

RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-05 Thread Tom Maddox
> Tom > > I think there is some confusion here about what is meant by > VERP'ed address. Evidently, you are correct. :-/ So, that's not my problem, then, but my problem remains unresolved. In a nutshell, here's what I'm observing: Prior to my "upgrade" (oh, bitter irony!) to Mailman 2.1, mail s

RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-05 Thread Richard Barrett
Tom I think there is some confusion here about what is meant by VERP'ed address. In MM 2.0.x outgoing mail from lists came from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias. With MM 2.1 outgoing mail from lists normally comes from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias. This isn't VERP'ed mail. It is just a change in or

RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-05 Thread Tom Maddox
> It looks like the code that initiates VERP'ed return addresses is in > $prefix/Mailman/Handlers/ToOutgoing.py and is enacted in > $prefix/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py. > > I cannot see anything in those modules that would lead to > VERP'ing without > one of the appropriate variable being true

RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-04 Thread Richard Barrett
At 22:02 04/02/2003, Tom Maddox wrote: > > > >So, is it possible to disable the VERP functionality in some > fashion? My > > > >users would prefer to have regular From: and Reply-to: > headers, not the > > > >irritating VERP ones. I'm hesitant to make changes to the > > > VERP_FORMAT and > > > >

RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-04 Thread Richard Barrett
At 22:42 04/02/2003, Tom Maddox wrote: > > I tried twiddling the VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL setting, but it made no > > difference. > > Hey Tom... a couple of questions (forgive me if they sound silly, or if > they've already been asked): > > 1) Are you changing ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py--not > ~mail

RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-04 Thread Tom Maddox
> > I tried twiddling the VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL setting, but it made no > > difference. > > Hey Tom... a couple of questions (forgive me if they sound silly, or if > they've already been asked): > > 1) Are you changing ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py--not > ~mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py? (and if you're

RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-04 Thread Glenn Sieb
Tom Maddox said: > I tried twiddling the VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL setting, but it made no > difference. Hey Tom... a couple of questions (forgive me if they sound silly, or if they've already been asked): 1) Are you changing ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py--not ~mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py? (and if you'

RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-04 Thread Tom Maddox
> > > >So, is it possible to disable the VERP functionality in some > fashion? My > > > >users would prefer to have regular From: and Reply-to: > headers, not the > > > >irritating VERP ones. I'm hesitant to make changes to the > > > VERP_FORMAT and > > > >VERP_REGEXP lines in mm_cfg.py without k

RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-04 Thread Richard Barrett
At 18:13 04/02/2003, Tom Maddox wrote: > At 00:08 04/02/2003, Tom Maddox wrote: > >So, is it possible to disable the VERP functionality in some fashion? My > >users would prefer to have regular From: and Reply-to: headers, not the > >irritating VERP ones. I'm hesitant to make changes to the > VE

RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-04 Thread Tom Maddox
> At 00:08 04/02/2003, Tom Maddox wrote: > >So, is it possible to disable the VERP functionality in some fashion? My > >users would prefer to have regular From: and Reply-to: headers, not the > >irritating VERP ones. I'm hesitant to make changes to the > VERP_FORMAT and > >VERP_REGEXP lines in mm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-04 Thread Richard Barrett
At 00:08 04/02/2003, Tom Maddox wrote: So, is it possible to disable the VERP functionality in some fashion? My users would prefer to have regular From: and Reply-to: headers, not the irritating VERP ones. I'm hesitant to make changes to the VERP_FORMAT and VERP_REGEXP lines in mm_cfg.py without