Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2001-05-08 Thread Satya
On May 4, 2001 at 13:15, Troy Heber wrote: http://mysite/mailman/listinfo/ --- Everything is fine Your resolver probably sees this as a local page? http://mysite.mydomain.com/listinfo/ -- The page comes up but there are no lists! Perhaps this option (under privacy options on each list's

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman password problem

2001-05-08 Thread Satya
[posted and mailed] On May 7, 2001 at 14:04, David Jacobson wrote: I've setup mailman after hours of work (modifying etc). Now I need it so I can subscribe clients _without_ a password, when I click on the mass subscribe and put a few people in then I try and unsubscribe it requires a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wierd errors in maillog

2001-05-08 Thread Satya
On May 5, 2001 at 20:36, Thomas von Hassel wrote: f45IM6015850: [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Cannot mail directly to programs [EMAIL PROTECTED] |/etc/smrsh/wrapper post tollerlist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: |/etc/smrsh/wrapper post tollerlist -- Satya.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Customization

2001-05-08 Thread Satya
On May 6, 2001 at 09:42, Bruce Thomas wrote: I am wondering if there is a method to automatically strip attachments from messages received by the list prior to sending the message out to the list I hear there's something called demime out there. -- Satya. URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/

[Mailman-Users] purge pending submittion from command line?

2001-05-08 Thread MPX
Hi all, I've been in trouble with MailMan Web Interface. Actually its not a problem of MailMan but of a stupid mail server that spammed us thousands of craps repeatedly. As a result, we have over 3000 pending request to process left and I cannot open the Tend to pending administrative

Re: [Mailman-Users] Customization

2001-05-08 Thread alex wetmore
On Tue, 8 May 2001, Satya wrote: On May 6, 2001 at 09:42, Bruce Thomas wrote: I am wondering if there is a method to automatically strip attachments from messages received by the list prior to sending the message out to the list I hear there's something called demime out there.

[Mailman-Users] Disabling URL in notification message

2001-05-08 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
The welcome message when a user is joined to a mailman list includes URL's for removeing/manageing their list description. But since I don't have a web server I can't provide public access to these pages, I just want to use the e-mail subscribe/unsubscribe functionality. Is there a way to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Customization

2001-05-08 Thread Pug Bainter
alex wetmore ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something that sounded like: http://www.phred.org/~alex/stripmime.html is one solution, and there is a link to demime at the bottom of the page. Someone also recently checked in patches for Mailman that does the same thing, so hopefully that will appear

[Mailman-Users] missing list info and admin pages

2001-05-08 Thread Steve Braker
Hello. My web host provides Mailman, which worked fine until a few weeks ago when the list info and admin pages suddenly stopped working. The lists themselves still work fine, and subscriptions can be done via email. But the major web interface is just gone. Does anyone have any tips I could

[Mailman-Users] qrunner errors ...

2001-05-08 Thread Yogesh Bhanu
HI, Suddenly I'm getting this mail .. Traceback (innermost last): File /home/mailman/cron/qrunner, line 85, in ? from Mailman import MailList File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 30, in ?

[Mailman-Users] Translation of mailman

2001-05-08 Thread Thomas von Hassel
Hi Is there a way to translate the messeges ppl get when the get automated mail from the listserver. like the password reminder, the wellcome note etc. There in english but most my users are danish so it would be great if u could localize it. /Thomas -- Thomas von Hassel Web4Business ApS Paghs

Re: [Mailman-Users] purge pending submittion from command line?

2001-05-08 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 08 May 2001 21:06:36 +0900 ISO-2022-JP ISO-2022-JP wrote: Is there any way to manually process the pending request from command line? Delete the relevant files from ~mailman/data/ -- J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] -(*)

[Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread Bill Warner
At 12:01 PM 5/8/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How should I remove these (excessive headers) on each post? makes my message long. You would be generally ill advised to remove any of them. Why? IMO, the List-* headers are excessive and should, at the very least, be configurable. If I

[Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing

2001-05-08 Thread John David Cole
Is there a way to keep people from unsubscribing? I know you can monitor subscriptions, but i did not see anything about monitoring unsubscribing. Thanks for the help. John David Cole University of Tennessee Health Science Center Computing Telecommunications (901)448-5848

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/8/01 12:12 PM, Bill Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? IMO, the List-* headers are excessive and should, at the very least, be configurable. If I want my list message to carry this info I can already put it in the footers. Why should I force everyone to scroll past a page long

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The List-headers are RFC-compliant. Footers are not. What RFC says that footers are not allowed? No one said footers are not allowed. Read what was said. Footers aren't RFC compliant, that doesn't mean they're not allowed. List-headers on the other hand need

RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread Clayton, Robert
I also don't see any extreme headers flowing through my system. I have an extensive list server that is looking fine. Which mail program are you using that shows a large header? -Original Message- From: Satya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 3:30 PM To: [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/8/01 12:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The List-headers are RFC-compliant. Footers are not. What RFC says that footers are not allowed? You know, we have this same argument every few weeks. Barry, can the FAQ/INSTALL/README/etc be updated with a comment about this so

RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread Clayton, Robert
Finally, logic prevails! If I as a lay person can figure out how to remove them, then anyone should be able to. I am far from a programmer. -Original Message- From: Chuq Von Rospach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 4:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread Mike Noyes
At 2001-05-08 15:13 -0500, Bill Warner wrote: At 12:42 PM 5/8/01 -0700, Mike Noyes wrote: ref. Eudora .ini Settings TabooHeaders Yes, I know about the TabooHeaders settings for Eudora, but most of my list readers don't, and they are probably using some M$ junk to read mail anyway, and they

RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread Clayton, Robert
Here is the address of the RFC list that pertains to structure and such. Fair warning though. Have lots of coffee ready. www.imc.org/rfcs.html#rfc822 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread alex wetmore
On Tue, 8 May 2001, Bill Warner wrote: Yes, I know about the TabooHeaders settings for Eudora, but most of my list readers don't, and they are probably using some M$ junk to read mail anyway, and they don't care about things like TabooHeaders in any case. None of the MS Clients (at least that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with mailinglist/archives.

2001-05-08 Thread Tib
Nope, no stale locks. It was having problems like that before, so I deleted the list (saved the config file) and recreated the list, imported the config file, and ran the arch command to reindex the archives - which got me to where I am now. The mail goes to the list just fine, but the archives

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/8/01 1:48 PM, Clayton, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the address of the RFC list that pertains to structure and such. Fair warning though. Have lots of coffee ready. www.imc.org/rfcs.html#rfc822 Except that's not the RFC involing list-id and list* headers. And RFC822 was

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread Bill Warner
At 01:33 PM 5/8/01 -0700, Mike Noyes wrote: Someone posted a hack to remove the headers a while ago. Search the list if you're interested. OK, I found a reference to this in the archive, and located the spot to hack the code. On my first look I didn't grep deep enough into the distribution.

[Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
I want to setup multiple servers running (the same) mailman lists. The ways I can think of doing this is either: Option 1: Setup a master machine with everything on it and export the mailman structure for NFS so the other machines can mount it, and use it.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/8/01 3:32 PM, Ashley M. Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to setup multiple servers running (the same) mailman lists. Before we start building this beast -- why? Trying to keep the subscriber databases in sync across machines is going to be problematic. Before we build it,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Chuq Von Rospach wrote: Before we start building this beast -- why? Load balancing. I prefer having one server running mailman and having all the lists on it, however this means that machine will also get hit pretty hard when several lists get to receive/send messages. Having a cluster

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread Mike Noyes
At 2001-05-08 14:55 -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: On 5/8/01 1:48 PM, Clayton, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the address of the RFC list that pertains to structure and such. Fair warning though. Have lots of coffee ready. www.imc.org/rfcs.html#rfc822 Except that's not the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing

2001-05-08 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 08 May 2001 14:27:33 -0500 John David Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to keep people from unsubscribing? I know you can monitor subscriptions, but i did not see anything about monitoring unsubscribing. Thanks for the help. Currently there is no direct support for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 08 May 2001 14:12:52 -0500 Bill Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:01 PM 5/8/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How should I remove these (excessive headers) on each post? makes my message long. You would be generally ill advised to remove any of them. Why? The list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/8/01 4:01 PM, Ashley M. Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before we start building this beast -- why? Load balancing. I figured, but I wanted to make sure. I prefer having one server running mailman and having all the lists on it, however this means that machine will also get hit

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 08 May 2001 15:21:27 -0500 Bill Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:47 PM 5/8/01 -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: You should have made those comments to the standards committee. The RFC is the RFC. What RFC? If you have a cite for an RFC which says that Mailman must add 10 lines

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 08 May 2001 13:16:12 -0700 Chuq Von Rospach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuq (official hard-ass of the 2002 summer olympics) The concept of spandex covered buns at an athletic avent for SysAdms would appear to violate several basic tenets of the physical universe -- well, at least in my

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 8 May 2001 16:48:32 -0400 Robert Clayton Clayton wrote: Here is the address of the RFC list that pertains to structure and such. Fair warning though. Have lots of coffee ready. www.imc.org/rfcs.html#rfc822 RFC 822 has been replaced by RFC 2822. -- J C Lawrence

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/8/01 4:27 PM, J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, the List-* headers are excessive and should, at the very least, be configurable. This has been a point of contention on the list and elsewhere. I disagree. I'll take a middle ground. If he really feels this is how the list-*

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/8/01 4:35 PM, J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuq (official hard-ass of the 2002 summer olympics) The concept of spandex covered buns at an athletic avent Especially if they're MY buns. It'd scar some people for life... --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Chuq Von Rospach wrote: And services like yahoo have programmers on staff to write this stuff, and admins on staff to manage it, and budgets for the hardware, and... Something I don't have. :) That's why I'm trying to go as light as I can, with currently (working) software. How big

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
John David Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to keep people from unsubscribing? Currently there is no direct support for this. And while I understand there are certain circumstances wher ethis might be reasonable (for instance, one of my list servers managers department lists

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 08 May 2001 16:54:59 -0700 Chuq Von Rospach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/8/01 4:27 PM, J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, the List-* headers are excessive and should, at the very least, be configurable. This has been a point of contention on the list and elsewhere. I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Chuq Von Rospach wrote: Trying to keep the subscriber databases in sync across machines is going to be problematic. Tow things I can think off of the top of my head, one being the easiest (maybe). a) NFS or b) If mailman has a way of sending a signal out when something changes

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing

2001-05-08 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 08 May 2001 16:57:11 -0700 Chuq Von Rospach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And while I understand there are certain circumstances wher ethis might be reasonable (for instance, one of my list servers managers department lists which are mandatory subscriptions), in general, I have to ask

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/8/01 5:02 PM, J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Especially if they're MY buns. It'd scar some people for life... I thought I mentioned that _MY_ universe was not capable of supporting such concepts. Yeesh. Heh. If you want to scare the children, you can go to www.chuqui.com, and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/8/01 5:01 PM, J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good distinction. I still use the default Mailman footer that points to the list page. I've decided the default footer isn't quite good enough. And the default mailman digest header is bad -- I've gotten any number of complaints about

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 08 May 2001 17:55:21 -0600 Ashley M Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuq Von Rospach wrote: And services like yahoo have programmers on staff to write this stuff, and admins on staff to manage it, and budgets for the hardware, and... Something I don't have. :) That's why I'm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 08 May 2001 17:10:06 -0700 Chuq Von Rospach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/8/01 5:01 PM, J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good distinction. I still use the default Mailman footer that points to the list page. I've decided the default footer isn't quite good enough. Your

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Chuq Von Rospach wrote: And your average delay in delivery is -- how long? Generally, two to six at the most. If I don't clean out the queue because of nasty remote servers not working properly, it can go into a day or two. That's generally when I'll get a phone call because someone

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with mailinglist/archives.

2001-05-08 Thread Tib
I found the problem and was able to solve it: when I ran the arch command to import the old archives of the list that got moved to my machine, I ran it as root - and it set all the rwx permissions correctly, but failed to set the ownership settings correctly (owned by root rather than owned by

[Mailman-Users] argh!! more problems

2001-05-08 Thread Tib
For some reason, the config.db file of the list previously in question keeps being set to an ownership of 'nobody'. help? EOL Tib -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.0.5 issues persist on RH70 (corrected)

2001-05-08 Thread Pug Bainter
Joe Morris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something that sounded like: 4. Rerun check_perms and it finds 11 problems all related to files that are not set-gid. Why did it return differently this time after I set the owner of all files to mailman?!? Because for security purposes the OS removes the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread alex wetmore
On Tue, 8 May 2001, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Load balancing. I prefer having one server running mailman and having all the lists on it, however this means that machine will also get hit pretty hard when several lists get to receive/send messages. Most of the pain is in sending the

Re: [Mailman-Users] argh!! more problems

2001-05-08 Thread Tib
Actually it does present a problem because this is the error it generates: May 08 18:26:01 2001 qrunner(7593): Traceback (most recent call last): May 08 18:26:01 2001 qrunner(7593): File /home/mailman/cron/qrunner, line 278, in ? May 08 18:26:01 2001 qrunner(7593): kids = main(lock) May

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/8/01 5:02 PM, Ashley M. Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a) NFS I wouldn't even try. or b) If mailman has a way of sending a signal out when something changes on the .db files No, it doesn't. Doesn't necessarily need to. What comes to mind with this last option though is,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/8/01 5:22 PM, J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've decided the default footer isn't quite good enough. Your complaint? Minor ones: ___ sharks mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hockeyfanz.com/mailman/listinfo/sharks Neither of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-08 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 08 May 2001 22:07:42 -0700 Chuq Von Rospach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/8/01 5:22 PM, J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've decided the default footer isn't quite good enough. Your complaint? Minor ones: ___ sharks mailing

Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate emails sent out

2001-05-08 Thread David Casamento
From going through the mail logs on the server, I can see that the same message was sent to one person 76 times in one day and 33 times the next day, at which staged I deleted all the queue files in the qfiles directory and the mailouts stopped. The mail list has feature turned on that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate emails sent out

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/8/01 10:57 PM, David Casamento [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So from what I can tell, my mailing list server is sending out all the dups. But that doesn't tell you where they're coming from. Who's creating the duplicates? You? Or someone else? Until you figure that you, you won't really solve