[Mailman-Users] Ouytgoing mail header question...

2010-01-31 Thread Doug Smith
Hey folks I have no idea if this is a MailMan issue or a standard feature of any outgoing email with multiple recipients so please bear with me if it isn't even a MailMan issue... When I look at the outgoing mail queue on my server when MailMan is in the process of sending out one of it's

[Mailman-Users] Mailman bounce counters and delivery of spam

2010-01-31 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Albert ARIBAUD writes: But is there a way (besides patching and recompiling) to let mailman know that 5xx (and possibly 4xx as well) rejects which mention spam should not cause an increase of the bounce counter? 4xx should be handled at the MTA level by retrying. If I were you, I'd fix

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman bounce counters and delivery of spam

2010-01-31 Thread Albert ARIBAUD
Stephen J. Turnbull a écrit : Albert ARIBAUD writes: But is there a way (besides patching and recompiling) to let mailman know that 5xx (and possibly 4xx as well) rejects which mention spam should not cause an increase of the bounce counter? 4xx should be handled at the MTA level by

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman bounce counters and delivery of spam

2010-01-31 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Albert ARIBAUD writes: Regarding your suggestion of better spam detection at the earliest stage, I agree wholeheartedly. But while I might be able to suggest mailman settings to the list owner, heavier actions such as changing the spam detection methods in place on the list are out of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman bounce counters and delivery of spam

2010-01-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
Albert ARIBAUD wrote: Well, I can't argue that in this instance free.fr does a better job of detecting spam than the list, but a) free.fr does not provide mailing lists beyond the most basic functionality, and b) I'm not in position to suggest moving the list as I'm not the owner, only a member.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ouytgoing mail header question...

2010-01-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
Doug Smith wrote: When I look at the outgoing mail queue on my server when MailMan is in the process of sending out one of it's messages, I see something akin to the following in the header lines. --- 1NbOfW-0004fm-J9-H mailnull 47 12 foobarl...@domain.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman bounce counters and delivery of spam

2010-01-31 Thread Albert ARIBAUD
Mark Sapiro a écrit : Albert ARIBAUD wrote: Well, I can't argue that in this instance free.fr does a better job of detecting spam than the list, but a) free.fr does not provide mailing lists beyond the most basic functionality, and b) I'm not in position to suggest moving the list as I'm not

[Mailman-Users] spam from list-owner to own list

2010-01-31 Thread Dennis Carr
Seem to be getting this a lot on f...@here - spam comes from ffml-owner, but that address is not subscribed, so it bounces, and bombards six people with rejected spam. Is there a more elegant way to deal with this than add subscriber to a 'summarily discard all' rule? -Dennis

[Mailman-Users] remove default attachments and Greek language support

2010-01-31 Thread Γιάννης Σερβετάς
Hello, every time I send an attached file to my mailing list, the users that receive that e-mail, claim that there appear to be more than one attached files in the received message. Last time I tested it: I attached to the outgoing message 2 files. I received a message with the 2 attached

[Mailman-Users] Cannot see pending message waiting for approval

2010-01-31 Thread Yao Fololo
Hi all, I just install Mailman on a new server. The moderator of one of my lists has received a request for approval but when he clicks on the link, there is no message to approve.  Any help? Thanks in advance. Yao --

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam from list-owner to own list

2010-01-31 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:59:13AM -0800, Dennis Carr wrote: Seem to be getting this a lot on f...@here - spam comes from ffml-owner, but that address is not subscribed, so it bounces, and bombards six people with rejected spam. Is there a more elegant way to deal with this than add

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam from list-owner to own list

2010-01-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dennis Carr wrote: Seem to be getting this a lot on f...@here - spam comes from ffml-owner, but that address is not subscribed, so it bounces, and bombards six people with rejected spam. Is there a more elegant way to deal with this than add subscriber to a 'summarily discard all' rule?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ouytgoing mail header question...

2010-01-31 Thread Russell Clemings
That looks like Exim, in which case I believe the explanation (complex) is here: http://www.exim.org/exim-html-4.50/doc/html/spec_52.html#SECT52.1 rac -- Forwarded message -- From: Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net To: Doug Smith ds...@yahoo.com, mailman-users@python.org Date:

Re: [Mailman-Users] remove default attachments and Greek language support

2010-01-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/31/2010 4:18 AM, Γιάννης Σερβετάς wrote: every time I send an attached file to my mailing list, the users that receive that e-mail, claim that there appear to be more than one attached files in the received message. Last time I tested it: I attached to the outgoing message 2 files. I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cannot see pending message waiting for approval

2010-01-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
Yao Fololo wrote: I just install Mailman on a new server. The moderator of one of my lists has received a request for approval but when he clicks on the link, there is no message to approve.  Any help? Either there is an old or test or backup installation that is sending the moderator notice

Re: [Mailman-Users] Private archive nightmare with vhosts

2010-01-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
UGSD wrote: After not being able to create a list, I had another issue (not seen in 2.1.7), where the alias file was created in the form of lists.domain1.net=list-name-unsubscribe: |/path/to/mailman unsubscribe lists.domain1.net=list-name which mailman did not understand and complained that

[Mailman-Users] Mailman doesn't reset bounce

2010-01-31 Thread Hien HUYNH HUU
Dear all, I wonder why mailman doesn't reset bounce when member received last message ? I check and see that Mailman just increases bounce but doesn't decrease it. Please help me to correct this issue . Best regards, Huu Hien --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman doesn't reset bounce

2010-01-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
Hien HUYNH HUU wrote: I wonder why mailman doesn't reset bounce when member received last message ? I check and see that Mailman just increases bounce but doesn't decrease it. Please help me to correct this issue . This should not be a problem. Mailman doesn't reset bounce info

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman doesn't reset bounce

2010-01-31 Thread Hien HUYNH HUU
Yeah, I understood how It works . Thank you very much, Mark. Best regards, Huu Hien -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:27 AM To: Hien HUYNH HUU; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman doesn't

[Mailman-Users] Mailman 3.0 wishlist: Add posting into archiver (user database and mail sending)

2010-01-31 Thread Karl O. Pinc
Hi, Here's a wishlist item for mailman 3.0. I've no use for web forums, but it seems that they are here to stay and sometimes a requirement. It occurs to me that if the mailman 3.0 archiver user interface had a send mail feature then it would, in essence, become a web forum. (Especially if the

[Mailman-Users] Mailman 3.0 wishlist: imap protocol support

2010-01-31 Thread Karl O. Pinc
Hello, As long as I'm requesting features, it'd be nice if the mailman archive was able to support access via the imap protocol. I would think it would make more sense to structure the archive in such a way that any old imap server could be used rather than build imap protocol support into