[Mailman-Users] how to change the List-ID (RFC2919)

2009-03-02 Thread IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig)
hi all. after moving a mailinglist from one domain to another, i was wondering how i can keep the old List-ID (according to RFC2919 the List-ID (or the address-part therein) should not change, even if the list-address changes) i have found an open bug-report regarding this:

Re: [Mailman-Users] how to change the List-ID (RFC2919)

2009-03-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig) wrote: after moving a mailinglist from one domain to another, i was wondering how i can keep the old List-ID (according to RFC2919 the List-ID (or the address-part therein) should not change, even if the list-address changes) Correct. It

Re: [Mailman-Users] how to change the List-ID (RFC2919)

2009-03-02 Thread IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig)
Mark Sapiro wrote: The only solution that doesn't involve hacking code is to not change the host_name of the list, but since the host_name is the domain that is exposed in all list email addresses, that is clearly not a practical solution. are there any plans to allow an administrator to set

Re: [Mailman-Users] how to change the List-ID (RFC2919)

2009-03-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 2, 2009, at 11:17 AM, IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig) wrote: are there any plans to allow an administrator to set the List-ID in future versions of Mailman? It's not out of the realm of possibility for MM3. It

[Mailman-Users] Uncaught runner exception: unknown encoding: us-ascii

2009-03-02 Thread rpyne
Please help! Since upgrading to Mailman 2.1.12 and Python 2.6.1, my error log is filling up with messages like this and virtually no messages are moving through my mailing lists. Based on a search of the archives, I removed ALL digest.mbox files and ran unshunt. No messages moved and the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught runner exception: unknown encoding:us-ascii

2009-03-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
rp...@kinfolk.org wrote: Please help! Since upgrading to Mailman 2.1.12 and Python 2.6.1, my error log is filling up with messages like this and virtually no messages are moving through my mailing lists. Based on a search of the archives, I removed ALL digest.mbox files and ran unshunt. No

Re: [Mailman-Users] Displaying Entire Membership List

2009-03-02 Thread Ed Corcoran
Hi Mark, What Mailman version is this... Not sure as it is supplied by my host at hostgo.com You aren't by chance seeing only the 152 As (or whatever's first) ... AHH! That was exactly the problem. So there really was no problem, just cockpit error. Thanks a bunch. Ed Corcoran

[Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending email or posting to archive.

2009-03-02 Thread Patricia A Moss
Mailman is currently not sending email and not posting to the archives. We moved the server, that hosts the mailman application, to a new network. This required that our email relay server also be changed. I am wondering if there is something in the mailman config that needs to be updated. I

Re: [Mailman-Users] password sends

2009-03-02 Thread Michael Welch
Mark Sapiro wrote at 05:49 PM 2/28/2009: What is supposed to happen when a non-listmember tries to get a password reminder from the member options page? I tried it myself after trying to figure out if a member was using the wrong email address, and the web page said, A reminder of your

Re: [Mailman-Users] how to change the List-ID (RFC2919)

2009-03-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry Warsaw writes: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 2, 2009, at 11:17 AM, IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig) wrote: are there any plans to allow an administrator to set the List-ID in future versions of Mailman? It's not out of

Re: [Mailman-Users] password sends

2009-03-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
Michael Welch wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote at 05:49 PM 2/28/2009: The issue is your list's membership is not public, so we can't reveal that the person requesting the reminder is not a member or this could be used to fish for list membership. Granted the message should be better (i.e. more

Re: [Mailman-Users] how to change the List-ID (RFC2919)

2009-03-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 2, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: It's not out of the realm of possibility for MM3. It seems to me on the order of browser ID hacking. ? Isn't it as simple as adding a rfc2919-list-id attribute to the list object, and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending email or posting to archive.

2009-03-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
Patricia A Moss wrote: Mailman is currently not sending email and not posting to the archives. We moved the server, that hosts the mailman application, to a new network. This required that our email relay server also be changed. I am wondering if there is something in the mailman config that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught runner exception: unknown encoding:us-ascii

2009-03-02 Thread rpyne
On 2 Mar 2009 at 9:10, Mark Sapiro wrote: rp...@kinfolk.org wrote: Please help! Since upgrading to Mailman 2.1.12 and Python 2.6.1, my error log is filling up with messages like this and virtually no messages are moving through my mailing lists. Based on a search of the archives, I

[Mailman-Users] No incoming mail

2009-03-02 Thread Tim Ferguson
I have a system that I just set up and mail, such as subscribe notifications and list creations are going out but mail isn't making it in. I get a server is down error reply. Although postfix is up, where might the catch be? Thanks for any ideas or suggestions, Tim Tim Ferguson

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught runner exception: unknownencoding:us-ascii

2009-03-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
rp...@kinfolk.org wrote: # python Python 2.6.1 (r261:67515, Feb 28 2009, 15:18:21) [GCC 4.2.4] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. I re-ran the configure and install of mailman, ran unshunt and the errors still show using python 2.5: What does

Re: [Mailman-Users] No incoming mail

2009-03-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
Tim Ferguson wrote: I have a system that I just set up and mail, such as subscribe notifications and list creations are going out but mail isn't making it in. I get a server is down error reply. Although postfix is up, where might the catch be? Where do you see this? Is this in a DSN

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught runner exception: unknownencoding:us-ascii

2009-03-02 Thread rpyne
On 2 Mar 2009 at 10:24, Mark Sapiro wrote: rp...@kinfolk.org wrote: # python Python 2.6.1 (r261:67515, Feb 28 2009, 15:18:21) [GCC 4.2.4] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. I re-ran the configure and install of mailman, ran unshunt and the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught runner exception: unknownencoding:us-ascii

2009-03-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
rp...@kinfolk.org wrote: On 2 Mar 2009 at 10:24, Mark Sapiro wrote: Are you also getting many errors like the following? Mar 02 10:39:54 2009 (30278) Failed to unlink/preserve backup file: /var/mailman/qfiles/in/1236014500.0552149+5aed32c1bfbe6e4ac85c02c3518 5 46e179e37b02.bak Yes: Mar

Re: [Mailman-Users] Tricky admin_immed_notify problem

2009-03-02 Thread Savoy, Jim
Jim Savoy wrote: Reading this reminded me that I have a similar problem. All of our lists are set by default to be admin_immed_notify=yes, but the list owners only get a message when something new arrives (that is put on hold). They never get a daily reminder about the queued-up stuff. Is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Tricky admin_immed_notify problem

2009-03-02 Thread Savoy, Jim
Jim Savoy wrote: I am not all that familiar with cron. Is that crontab -u mailman crontab.in something you need to run every time you reboot the system? Or does it add something to /etc/cron.d or /etc/cron.daily or /etc/crontab? (I don't see anything new in those). Jim Savoy answers himself:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Tricky admin_immed_notify problem

2009-03-02 Thread Savoy, Jim
I think I have my phantom requests (eg the -1 request(s) pending) question answered. Googling it I see that Mark provided a fix, but also said that by going to that admin page once should clear it. That may save me from manually having to fix hundreds of lists.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Tricky admin_immed_notify problem

2009-03-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
Savoy, Jim wrote: The answers to your questions are: yes, yes yes. But I don't think the person who installed Mailman many years ago ever did the crontab -u mailman crontab.in bit, so I just did it now. First I commented out everything in that crontab.in file except the checkdbs line, and set

Re: [Mailman-Users] how to change the List-ID (RFC2919)

2009-03-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry Warsaw writes: On Mar 2, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: It's not out of the realm of possibility for MM3. It seems to me on the order of browser ID hacking. ? Isn't it as simple as adding a rfc2919-list-id attribute to the list object, and defaulting it to

Re: [Mailman-Users] how to change the List-ID (RFC2919)

2009-03-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 2, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: I disagree. The identity of a list is what it is, and shouldn't change because the server changes. The issue here arises because in Mailman 2.1, lists have no sense of their own identitywink,