Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?

2002-11-24 Thread David Richards
This is also now possible with RedHat Advanced Server - using shared storage??? So will it run in a load balanced manner there?? Presumably if it runs on a Tru64 cluster (which we have many of), it will run on a number of servers sharing file systems via NFS?? Thoughts?? Dave.       Using

Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?

2002-11-21 Thread Ian Chilton
Hello, To make things simpler, you could limit users (and admins) to modify the list databases on only one of the two (or more) servers That's what I was going to do. You could could point all website directions to that one server (and only one of the servers) and you could direct the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?

2002-11-21 Thread David Richards
 Are there any mailman developers around here? - a much better  solution would be to turn on a backup server option in the  config file, specifying the e-mail address of the list server on  the backup server. What should then happen if this is on, is  whenever a list is changed either with mail

Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?

2002-11-21 Thread Jon Carnes
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 03:42, Ian Chilton wrote: ok, i'll rsync them across every 1/2hr or so and hope that the main server is not unavailable for the time before someone changing a subscription and the next rsync :) Create a file in the locking directory: qrunner.lock.moya.trilug.org.22845

Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?

2002-11-21 Thread MCV Webmaster
Using the LDAP master/slave paradigm. Even better would be to use the Novell e-Directory method and have a 'peer' network. So any updates against any system in the peer-ring, will update (and make sure it happens - receive confirmation) every other member in the peer group. Sounds good -

Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?

2002-11-20 Thread Ian Chilton
Hello, There are several ways to set this up. Here are two examples that I've done: Thanks for the reply. However this doesn't really answer my origional question - how do you keep the subscription information in sync across the multiple servers? Thanks! Bye for Now, Ian

Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?

2002-11-20 Thread Jon Carnes
I would worry about locking on the databases. Mailman handles this via a lock file in a common directory, so it should work even in active-active, but you would still only have one mailman process able to run on a list at one time. In other words, I don't think you would get much better

Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?

2002-11-20 Thread Jon Carnes
If you actually have individual databases driving each install (as opposed to a shared database via NFS or some other tool), then you could easily setup some scripts to keep the databases in sync. You could use the log files as your trigger, or even simple periodic diffs of each individual

Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?

2002-11-20 Thread David Richards
Not so much of performance that will be a problem, but more of a availability issue. Yes, would be fun to try... How about Ian's original idea, about keeping certain directories in sync?? Which directories would that have to be, and can a straight 'cp -R' acheive the syncing?? Dave.  I would

Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?

2002-11-20 Thread Jon Carnes
If you are running two separate systems then you don't want to copy the follow directories under ~mailman/: data - where moderated messages are held locks - where the locking files are created logs - the local logs for the running Mailman system qfiles - queued up messages waiting to

[Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?

2002-11-19 Thread Ian Chilton
Hello, I have a domain with 2 master mx servers and I want to run mailman on both so if 1 is down, the mailing lists still work. I have not setup mailman yet, but have subscribed to quite a few lists using it. Does anyone have a similar setup? I was thinking the best way would be to alias

Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?

2002-11-19 Thread Jon Carnes
On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 04:17, Ian Chilton wrote: Hello, I have a domain with 2 master mx servers and I want to run mailman on both so if 1 is down, the mailing lists still work. I have not setup mailman yet, but have subscribed to quite a few lists using it. Does anyone have a similar

Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?

2002-11-19 Thread Jon Carnes
You can also store the email addresses (one per line, and *only* the email address) and then use user_add to add the list of users to an existing mailing list. That sounds good - would they just get the default options? What about a password for the web interface? Using the web

Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?

2002-11-19 Thread David Richards
  I have a domain with 2 master mx servers and I want to run  mailman on both so if 1 is down, the mailing lists still work.  I have not setup mailman yet, but have subscribed to quite a  few lists using it.   Does anyone have a similar setup?    Most folks do this via NFS. They setup a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?

2002-11-19 Thread Jon Carnes
There are several ways to set this up. Here are two examples that I've done: - Front end the servers with an LVS cluster and run the servers in your DMZ. The LVS cluster acts as a firewall and connects a user to an active internal server (one of many in its list) based on either an ip address

Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?

2002-11-19 Thread David Richards
How about ACTIVE-ACTIVE sharing the same installation via an NFS mount (or possibly shared storage in a cluster)? D.  There are several ways to set this up. Here are two examples  that I've done:     - Front end the servers with an LVS cluster and run the servers  in your DMZ. The LVS cluster