Re: [mailop] mailop and DKIM signatures

2024-03-17 Thread Dave Crocker via mailop
On 3/16/2024 1:31 PM, Slavko via mailop wrote: And the same RCF clearly suggests to leave other (even invalid) signatures untouched. Which text in RFC 6376 says that? Perhaps you are thinking of Section 6.1 which includes: INFORMATIVE NOTE: The rationale of this requirement is to permit

Re: [mailop] [spamhaus] de-listing requests successful, but only for a couple of days.

2024-03-17 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 17.03.2024 o godz. 16:17:10 Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop pisze: > >My current ISP (BTW, one of the biggest cable providers in Europe, you can > >probably guess which one it is) currently provides by default an IPv6 *only* > >connection to the home users, even if you have IPv4-only devices in

Re: [mailop] mailop and DKIM signatures

2024-03-17 Thread John Levine via mailop
According to Marco Moock via mailop : >Am 16.03.2024 um 17:44:09 Uhr schrieb John Levine: > >> It appears that Marco Moock via mailop said: >> >> But who will follow 13 years old standard... ;-) >> > >> >When Google and Co. make DKIM mandatory, this will be hard, because >> >those messages are

Re: [mailop] [spamhaus] de-listing requests successful, but only for a couple of days.

2024-03-17 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Am 17.03.24 um 14:05 schrieb Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop: Dnia 17.03.2024 o godz. 08:30:39 Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop pisze: does IPv6 (not exclusively though), and I've been trying to usher in the future by setting up at least dual stack on my home DSL connection (that at least works now after

Re: [mailop] mailop and DKIM signatures

2024-03-17 Thread Dave Crocker via mailop
DKIM policy is reject or quarantine. That's DMARC, not DKIM. DKIM does a signature.  DMARC uses it (and/or SPF). d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net mast:@dcrocker@mastodon.social ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org

Re: [mailop] [spamhaus] de-listing requests successful, but only for a couple of days.

2024-03-17 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 17.03.2024 o godz. 08:30:39 Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop pisze: > does IPv6 (not exclusively though), and I've been trying to usher in > the future by setting up at least dual stack on my home DSL > connection (that at least works now after years of IPv6 routing > issues with my previous

Re: [mailop] Google unsolicited mail rejected with 421

2024-03-17 Thread Benny Pedersen via mailop
Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop skrev den 2024-03-17 13:38: Dnia 16.03.2024 o godz. 13:08:52 Benny Pedersen via mailop pisze: bingo its why its tempfailed, gmail should redesign how to handle maillists where message-id can come to inbound on gmail, should not count on message-id abuse counts

Re: [mailop] mailop and DKIM signatures

2024-03-17 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 16.03.2024 o godz. 16:57:54 Andy Smith via mailop pisze: > On this list one might argue¹ that we all have MUAs capable of > filtering etc. without subject tag and that we all know where the > mail came from without an explanatory footer because we know to look > at List-* headers. So maybe

Re: [mailop] Google unsolicited mail rejected with 421

2024-03-17 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 16.03.2024 o godz. 13:08:52 Benny Pedersen via mailop pisze: > > bingo its why its tempfailed, gmail should redesign how to handle > maillists where message-id can come to inbound on gmail, should not > count on message-id abuse counts Well... from Google's point of view, it seems like a

Re: [mailop] Ubuntu Noble/24.04 - TLS 1.0, 1.1 and DTLS 1.0 are forcefully disabled

2024-03-17 Thread Slavko via mailop
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 16 Mar 2024 16:53:23 +0100 Marco Moock via mailop napísal: > Forwarding (e.g. forwarding as attachment etc.) is still a thing and > if it is about security, I only trust e2e encrypted mails to be not > eavesdropped. Everything else is just a guess and nothing else. TLS is

Re: [mailop] mailop and DKIM signatures

2024-03-17 Thread Marco Moock via mailop
Am 16.03.2024 um 17:44:09 Uhr schrieb John Levine: > It appears that Marco Moock via mailop said: > >> But who will follow 13 years old standard... ;-) > > > >When Google and Co. make DKIM mandatory, this will be hard, because > >those messages are likely to be rejected. > > Why do you

Re: [mailop] [spamhaus] de-listing requests successful, but only for a couple of days.

2024-03-17 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Am 17.03.24 um 04:23 schrieb Jarland Donnell via mailop: I'm gonna be "that guy" though for a minute. If there are any IPv6 only mail servers, they are hobbyists trying to prove a point. There are a ton of IPv4 only mail servers. In short, there is no benefit to sending mail over IPv6 beyond